YESTERDAY, the congressional tug-of-war for adherents both for and against the impeachment case against Pres. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo gained five signatories to the side of the endorsers of the amended Lozano complaint. Today, however, it is the turn of the House majority opposed to the impeachment to snare one, reclaiming a pro-administration colleague who had earlier endorsed the complaint.

Less than 24 hours after four administration lawmakers — Robert Ace Barbers, Gilbert Cesar Remulla, Edmundo Reyes, and Robert Jaworksi Jr. — and Partido Manggagawa party-list representative Renato Magtubo finally decided to affix their signatures to the amended impeachment complaint, Eulogio "Amang" Magsaysay, party-list representative of the Alliance of Volunteer Educators (AVE), withdrew his earlier endorsement.

Magsaysay explained he was withdrawing as endorser and co-complainant because he signed without reading the amended complaint’s contents. At the time the complaint was presented to him for endorsement, the party-list representative said he signed it in the belief that he was doing it "for a just cause."

Now, Magsaysay said he is abiding by the dictum that a person is presumed innocent unless proven otherwise beyond reasonable doubt, adding that he will vote according to his conscience and to the evidences to be presented to the justice committee.

Complaint endorsers were obviously dismayed by what they call as Magsaysay’s "lame excuse." "It’s his problem if he recklessly affixed his signature without even bothering to read the complaint first," said Akbayan party-list Rep. Loretta Ann Rosales.

Lawyer Neri Colmenares, convenor of the Counsels for the Defense of Lawyers (CODAL) and one of the impeachment team’s private counsels, also refuted Magsaysay’s other contention that he was not furnished a copy of the complaint and had to download one from the Internet. Colmenares said he personally handed Rep. Magsaysay a copy of the complaint during one of the meetings of the impeachment group.

Romel Bagares, associate at the Roque and Butuyan Law Offices that is also offering its legal services to the prosecution panel, likewise claimed that Magsaysay went to their office twice to attend meetings. The congressman even attended an event organized by Akbayan at the People Power monument which was also attended by Susan Roces, he said.
 
Administration congressmen lauded Magsaysay’s withdrawal as a "principled" move, even proclaiming that "Magsaysay is our guy," an apparent allusion to the popular campaign slogan of then Pres. Ramon Magsaysay, the lawmaker’s uncle. No less than House Speaker Jose de Venecia proclaimed to the media that more impeachment complaint signatories will be following Magsaysay’s lead by withdrawing their endorsement in the next few days.

This only prompted pointed remarks from the pro-impeachment side. "The Speaker of the House is behaving as if he’s the spokesperson of Malacañang by announcing the withdrawal of more endorsers," Rosales said. "He should know better that as leader of the House, he should be the first to protect the integrity of this august body and the impeachment process."

Magsaysay is the same House member who last month exposed attempts by two congressmen he didn’t name to bribe him so he will not sign the impeachment complaint against Pres. Arroyo. The bribe offer involved P5.5 million in cash, projects and an additional congressional seat for his party. He even divulged in a press conference how he was hounded by calls on his mobile phone from six people identified with the administration up to the last minute before he signed the complaint on July 21 to reconsider his decision.

Why he is singing a different tune now, Rep. Rolex Suplico could only guess. "I don’t know. All I know is that we don’t have the resources, influence and positions to offer to those who had signed and those who will sign," he said.

Some notes:
In his press conference, Magsaysay read from a statement that was prepared for him by his chief-of-staff, who told the congressman to just read its pertinent portions. Appearing clueless, or probably lacking sleep, Magsaysay even had to ask his staff which were the pertinent parts in the statement that he should read.

102 Responses to From impeachment endorser to opponent

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rich__ong

August 24th, 2005 at 10:31 pm

Malacanang to Magsaysay: NAME your PRICE….
Magsaysay: Pwede ako kasali sa Road users tax aside sa 5.5 million….
Malacanang: Yun lang pala….

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expilad

August 24th, 2005 at 10:38 pm

Politicians in our country makes decisions not based on what is good for the people and the country but on the personal benfit of the politician. Obviously the administration has the financial resources to bribe corrupt politicians which should otherwise go to the people who is obviously the final loser in this case.
The losers must rise to rid the country of these corrupt people whose only aim as people protectorate is to lie, steal and kill. Rise to the occassion my country mates. NOW!

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kofranks

August 24th, 2005 at 10:44 pm

…and I thought MAGSAYSAY was a name associated with morality, uprightness and good governance…what a pity!! And to think that the party-list represented was that of educators!!!… what will our children learn from this?!!

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emer

August 24th, 2005 at 11:42 pm

ang kapal talaga ng pagmumukha ng mga demonyong matandang hukluban sa congress. mga ipokrito kahit di nila aminin talagang pera pera lang sila. hudas ka villfuerte, at itong si monico fuentebella bat kaya kelangang sigaw ng sigaw hoy ungas sira ulo kang matanda ka!!! at ikaw magsaysay na walang paninindigan pera lang katapat mo

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softly

August 25th, 2005 at 12:42 am

Magsaysay came out in TV before that he was being bribed. He even said siguro small time lang siya kaya maliit lang ang offer sa kanya, baka tinaasan/nilakihan na ang bigay kaya bumawe. It is really a shame that a person representing educators doesn’t have any moral principle, huwag naman sana ganito ang mga teachers natin. I was looking for his email address but I cant find it I want to tell him how flimsy, NAPAKABABAW ng excuse/reason niya. na huwag niya ginagawang tanga at ginagago ang taong bayan. Next election tell your friends/family not to vote for AVE partylist.

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jonas

August 25th, 2005 at 12:48 am

Yes, Magsaysay is their gut, ehek, este, their guy!

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masha

August 25th, 2005 at 1:30 am

to magsaysay’s explanation of why he’s withdrawing his signature i say *cough* bullsh#t *cough*

kaya pala nag expose siya noon….kulang pala ang offer at humihingi ng increase. or maybe he was asking if anybody could top this offer. leaves a bad taste in the mouth, doesnt it?

isnt anybody going to rid us of the menace that is congress? at pakisama si gma na rin. pero paki una si bobby “it’s the economy, stupid” tiglao. that guy’s the biggest jerk if there ever is one. to him i say “it’s gma, stupid-er!” halang ang bituka ng ng ng….pangit na ‘to! hehe just needed to get that out.

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KaBlog

August 25th, 2005 at 2:12 am

I am very close to the family of Magsaysay….Napakabuting pamilya, makatao at minamahal ng masa. Ika nga wala kang maibabatong putik lalo na sa pamilya si Senador Ramon Magsaysay…

Nakakalungkot..na isang malayong Magsaysay pa ang maglalagay ng putik sa pangalang minahal ng tao. Anong klaseng paninindigan meron ang bansot na ito. Pasalamat sya at apelyido nya ay Magsaysay..dahil sa apelyidong yan naluklok sya sa kongreso… Pero ang laking kagaguhan ang kanyang ginawa sa pagyurak sa dangal ng pamilyang Magsaysay.. Isa kang hudas, nabili ka ng makapangyarihang kampon ng kadiliman.

Dapat ang pangalan mo HUDAS Magsaysay, kitang-kita sayo kung paano mo ipinagbili ang iyung prinsipyo kapalit ng barya. Pakiusap lang, wag na wag ka nang magpainterview at nakakasuka ka!

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masha

August 25th, 2005 at 2:26 am

the magsaysays have never been known to be (very) bright but neither have they been known to be corrupt. sadly, what this eulogio character changed was the latter rep.

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vonpogi

August 25th, 2005 at 2:36 am

Sabi ko sa inyo lahat ng paraan ay gagawin ni PAndak para hindi siya makasuhan. Kita ninyo si Bansot Magsaysay ang galing ng gimmick niya dahil lumaki ang bigay na pera (galing sa atin) at ayun bumaliktad nang hudas. Walang saysay ang kayang pinaninindigan na sa Education pa ang kayang puwesto. Ano na ang mukhang hihaharap ng mga anak mo na wala kang sariling isipan. Napaka bawbaw ng palusot mo at sigurado ko na bago ka pumirma ay mayroon kang binasang papeles. Hindi ka pipirma na walang binabasa. Ang babaw ng palusot mo “bansot”. Sabiahin mo na malinis ang komsensiya mo. sino ang lolokohin mo. Napalaki mo lang ang pera na gusto mong makurakot. Mahiya ka. Sinira mo ang apelyidong “MAGSAYSAY”. Ngayon ay matuturing na walang SAYSAY ka.

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ernando

August 25th, 2005 at 3:43 am

Kung lahat ng Educators ay tulad ni Magsaysay, mabuti na lang na i-home school na lang natin ang ating mga anak kaysa magaya sa mentalidad ng Ipis na yan.

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el

August 25th, 2005 at 4:02 am

Kung e withdraw ang Lozano Case ay mapapasama ang amendments na mawithdraw. Palagay ko ganon ang mangyayari. Ganun yun, kung e withdraw , isasama ang amendments at kung isasampa naman ,isasampa itong magisa na walang amendments. A ewan hindi ko ma gets.

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masha

August 25th, 2005 at 4:29 am

el, sabi nga ni fr bernas

“XXX
In the current controversy, the so-called “amended complaint” and the Lopez complaint, both transmitted on the same day to the Justice Committee together with the Lozano complaint, are nothing more than “bills of particulars” to accompany the Lozano complaint. They both elaborate on the one constitutional offense of “betrayal of public trust.” For constitutional purposes, therefore, what is being initiated is only “one proceeding involving one complaint but with an extended bill of particulars.”

I can understand, however, why the President’s defenders argue the way they do. They must realize that if the “bill of particulars” is elevated to the Senate, the President will be tarred and feathered and be made to squirm. I guess we must bemoan the conclusion that the presidential defenders and their client do not wish to face the music.
XXX”

http://news.inq7.net/opinion/index.php?index=2&story_id=47628&col=136

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tongue in, anew

August 25th, 2005 at 4:36 am

Mawanay, Mahusay, Magsaysay…May pattern, di ba?

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masha

August 25th, 2005 at 4:51 am

sama mo na rin ang mga mike

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masha

August 25th, 2005 at 4:59 am

lantaran nang kumampi si enrile kay gma. ano naman kaya ang presyo nitong animal na ito? his businesses have been floundering for a number of years.

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kloi

August 25th, 2005 at 5:12 am

masha…. you are right… ang kapal nang mukha ni enrile.. may katapusan din sila.

magsaysay… wala kang bayag… congressman na walang silbi.. pwee

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tongue in, anew

August 25th, 2005 at 5:13 am

Magsaysay will vote according his conscience? A, abstain na yan (wala kasing konsensiya).

Yehey, ipagmamalaki ka ng mga anak mo! “Galing mo, Dad. Biruin mo, nakilala ka na ng buong Pilipinas, biglang-yaman pa tayo! Pag laki ko gagayahin ko ang tatay ko!”

By now, the late Ramon Magsaysay could be turning in his grave: “Dyahe, bakit ba may sumingaw pang ganitong kamaganak ko? Di bagay sa ‘yo ang apelyidong ‘Magsaysay'”.

Tama, dapat ‘Magsal…’

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tongue in, anew

August 25th, 2005 at 5:20 am

…according ‘to’ his conscience. (typo). Dyahe, baka pintasan pa ng mga guru dito.

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concerned citizen

August 25th, 2005 at 7:02 am

“MAGSAYSAY IS MY GUY” SABI NI JDV(TRAPOS OF THEM ALL). MALAMANG SYA ANG NAGBRIBE DITO WITH THE BLESSINGS OF GMA. “MAGSAYSAY MAGKANO LAGAY” SINAYANG MO ANG APELYEDONG DINADALA MO.
CHAMPION OF THE MASSES SI MAGSAYSAY, IKAW NAMAN AY SALOT SA MASA. ANO KAYA ANG MASASABI NI SENATOR MAGSAYSAY DITO? MAY KINALAMAN KAYA SIYA DITO BEING A MEMBER OF THE MAJORITY? NAGTATANONG LANG PO.

SANA WALA NG SUMUNOD NA MAGWITHDRAW AT NAKAKAHIYA TALAGA. OBVIOUS NA NALAGYAN KAHIT ANONG PAGKAKAILA. WALANG MANINIWALA SAINYO. MAGIGING TATAK NA NINYO HABANG BUHAY ANG PAGIGING CORRUPT NYO KAGAYA NG GINAWA NI MAGSAYSAY.

SA KABILANG BANDA, MARAMING HUMANGA DITO SA MGA MAGIGITING NA MGA BATANG CONGRESSMEN- DODOT JAWORSKI, REMULLA, E. REYES, BARBERS AT MAGTUBO. MABUHAY PO KAYO. SANA MAY MGA SUMUNOD PANG PUMIRMA NA KAGAYA NILA.

SOBRA NG PAHIRAP SA MAMAMAYAN ANG IMPEACHMENT NA ITO. VERY DEPRESSING! MAAWA NAMAN KAYONG MGA TONGRESSMEN. MASYADO NYONG BINABALUKTOT ANG RULE OF LAW NA SINASABI NYO. ITONG SI LAGMAN AT VILLAFUERTE PATI SI MONICO FUENTABELLA AT YUNG IBA PA AKALA MO NANGANGAPANYA SA ELECTION NG MAGSALITA SA CONGRESS KAHAPON. PWE! MGA TRAPO TUMIGIL NA KAYO! NAKAKASUKA NA PAGMUMUKHA NYO! I

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benign0

August 25th, 2005 at 7:21 am

ha ha! Whatever happens in congress, it all boils down to the people who voted those morons into office.

Who votes disobedient representatives into congress in the first place? Would a smart (or at the very least sane) person appoint a pedophile to watch over her kids? A government officiated by fools in a democracy merely reflects the fools who exercised their rights to vote to put them there. This is but another bout of this selective amnesia that Filipinos are world-renowned for. The “enlightened” wash the stupidity of the masses off their hands, proclaiming “I did not vote for those fools”. Ironic, that the very same elite who are among the most die-hard defenders of “democracy” and “free” elections would shrink away from accountability over the outcome of the very system they worship.

Above is an excerpt from my latest article “Fair trial, followed by a fair hanging”! Read it all at:

http://www.getrealphilippines.com/agr-disagr/18-5-hangin.html

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watcher

August 25th, 2005 at 8:26 am

How much is the doggie in the window?

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sinningsaint

August 25th, 2005 at 9:04 am

benignO, don’t start again, please. Tama nang sinira ni Magsaysay ang araw ko.

Hindi ko binoto ‘yang si Magsaysay. Ikaw, sinong binoto mong congressman? Pumirma na ba?

O hindi ka bumoto?… if you did not, wala kang karapatan mag-comment.

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agol_78

August 25th, 2005 at 9:15 am

american idol yan si benignO, hindi naman yan taxpayer ng pinas, kahit anong sabihin mapa pro man o anti, wala yang karapatan. sa america lng sya makialam wag dito sa pinas. hamakin mo gusto nya magtrabaho na lng tayo. ano sya hilo? laki kinakaltas na buwis sakin tapos hindi ako magrereklamo?

matigas din ulo nitong benignO, pasaway din. galing mo american idol

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agol_78

August 25th, 2005 at 9:20 am

kng sinasabi nya stupid ang mga filipino at ganggong, mas lalo wala syang karapatan.

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sinningsaint

August 25th, 2005 at 9:28 am

Fine. I may agree with benignO that where our country is going is determined by defects in our culture.

Fine. Deep-rooted. There’s no way for this country to go but down. And it’s all our fault.

But it’s precisely this thinking and attitude that deepens the problem. That’s making the attitude turn into “culture”.

The more you lose hope, the more you say to yourself: “aba’y talo-talo na, ba’t ko pa papakialaman anong mangyayari o sasabihin ng kapwa ko, e kultura na ng Pinoy yang manlamang? Bahala kayo sa buhay nyo… basta ako magpapayaman!”

And more and more people are infected by this line of attitude.

So what do you plan to do? Kaw, benignO, may plano ka ba?… bago mag-election, did you exert any effort to do something to start some change?…

ilan lang tayo ditong may kakayahan mag-internet, mag-blog ekek, magpalitan ng mga idea and stuff, magpahayag ng damdamin… kumpara mo naman sa sangkatutak jan sa labas na nagbebenta ng boto nila, nagbebenta ng kaluluwa nila sa mga politikong hudas…

Please. While I admire your delivery of lengthy alarming reality, pasensya ka na, it’s the presentation of your utmost pure pessimism that pisses me off.

Try to present your ideas to those congressmen who have already signed. LOST HOPE… dagdagan pa nang suhol ng Malacanang… aba’y talo-talo na talaga, magmumukhang bayani pa ‘yang si Magsaysay, grabe… kita-kits na lang tayo sa impyerno.

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vonpogi

August 25th, 2005 at 9:51 am

MAGSAYSAY SAYANG KA AT HINDI KA DAPAT MAGING EDUCATOR. NASULOT KA NG ARROYO AT NI PALAKPAK TENGA BOY JDV. BIRO MO SABI NI TENGA MAYROON PANG SUSUNOD NA BABAWI SA MGA PIRMA DAHIL NABUSALAN NA NILA NG PERA. WALA KAYONG KAHIHIYAN, TENGA KAYA KA KINAKARMA AY DAHIL SA MGA MALING PARAAN. AYOKONG SABIHIN OR BANGITIN ITO PERO ANG MASAMANG TAO AY MAY KARMA NA DADATING DIBA. ANO ANG NANGYARI SA ANAK NIYA>> ANG MGA ANAK , ASAWA AT KAMAG ANAK ANG NAGBABAYAD NG MGA KASAMAHAN NG MGA GANID NA POLITIKO AT DAPAT SA KANILA AY MAG PANHINGA NA DAHIL SA TAGAL NG SERBISYO NILA SA GOV. AY WALA NAMAN SILANG NAITULONG NG MAGANDANG SA MGA MAMAYAN. MAGALING LANG KAYO MAG NAKAW NG PERA. KAKARMAHIN KAYO LALO AT LALO NA SI EULOGIO MAGSAYSAY. SAYANG KA AT SINIRA MO ANG MAGANDANG HISTORY NG MAGSAYSAY FAMILY. PWEEEEEEE

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lumpen

August 25th, 2005 at 10:00 am

Imagine a world where Benigno is your representative. That will be far worse than this guy Amang Magsaysay. While Magsaysay, a very distant relative of the “Guy” could be excused for being clueless, Benigno’s characteristic condescending remarks are inexcusable and his vanity, shown by his knack to point to elements from his Get Real site, makes me want to have him tracked by his equals—the oxymoronic police and military intelligence guys.

Enough of Benigno. I am wondering why the so-called administration guys have signed. Except for Magtubo who finally decided to sleep with former colleagues from the reaffirmist left, there is definitely more that has to be probed as regards the reasons for the signing of guys such as Barbers (whose father is part of the major players in the audio staging of the continuing tele-saga Hello Garci! I heard that IT guys are now programming a new game patterned after the once famous—Where in the World is Carmen San Diego?); Jaworski (he might have followed his in-laws advice), Reyes (well his in-laws are definitely against GMA and with Br. Eddie’s group), and Gilbert Remulla (I am really not to sure. He has made much sense as Chair of the investigating joint committees and may have really just signed in out of conscience. But given what is happening in Cavite, the stand-off between his brother and the “suspended” governor, the signing of the impeachment documents douses cold water on the attempts of the suspended governor’s supporters that he is being eased out because of his anti-GMA stance [well, he had not articulated such stance up until he received word of an impending suspension])

Then fast forward, if the impeachment creeps and the 79 signatures are in (in itself a tall order), how are forces configured in the Senate? Who would be in GMA’s side and those against her. For now, the following appear to be hard GMA supporters—Miriam, Gordon, and the action stars—Lito Lapid and Ramon Revilla Jr. Enrile’s move to the majority bloc and the type of questions he propounded during the jueteng hearings might just make him the third defender of GMA. Two term senators Flavier and Magsaysay, as Lakas stalwarts, are within the president’s reach, though it is not too clear how much influence GMA has on the two. On the other side, I am sure Lim, Ping, Jamby, Jinggoy, Loi, and Nene will, if they had a choice, just dispense with the hearing and vote for GMA’s ouster. Among the ones who are left, Drilon, Pangilinan, Villar, Serge Osmena, Cayetano, Recto, Roxas and Angara, the crawling skills of operators on both ends and the survival instincts of these senators will definitely dictate where they will swing.

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vonpogi

August 25th, 2005 at 10:02 am

MAGSAYSAY HINDI NA SMALL TIME DAHIL TUMAAS ANG PRESYO NIYA. SABI NIYA AY MALINIS ANG KONSENSIYA NIYA AT HINDI SIYA NAG NAKAW. TOTOO IYAN, DAHIL HINDI NGA SIYA ANG NAG NAKAW OR NANGURAKOT NG PERA DAHIL SI PANDAK AT TENGA ANG NAG BIGAY NG PERA SO, HINDI SIYA ANG NAGNAKAW. NABIYAYAAN LANG DAW SIYA AT KAILANGAN DAW NIYA IYUN. SIRA NA ANG HISTORY NG MAGSAYSAY FAMILY. GAGO AT PIPIRMA NG ISANG BAGAY NA HINDI BINABASA ANG NAKASULAT. BAKA KAPAG INUTOS MO NA KUMAIN NG TAE AY KAKAIN ITO. DAHIL HINDI NAG IISIP PALA. EDUCATOR PA NAMAN ANG ALIAS NIYA. EDUCATOR NA WALANG ALAM AT MUKHANG PERA RIN PALA. SINO ANG MANINIWALA SA IYO NA HINDI KA NABIGYAN NG NAKAW NA PERA SAMANTALA NA BINABANGGIT NA NI TENGA NA MAYROON PA SILANG NASULOT AT NATAWAGAN NI PANDAK. ANO ANG GINAMIT NI PANDAK NA PANGBUNGAD NA HELLO… “HELLO TONGRESS” ANG PIRMA , ANG PIRMA MO BAWIIN MO AT MAY PERA PARA SA IYO.:)

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JMONEY45

August 25th, 2005 at 11:48 am

As expected, these impeachment hearings are already turning out to be nothing more than a political circus. Nothing new has come out of the hearings that are being conducted and the president’s allies in the house of representatives will stop at nothing to derail this move to impeach her and cut short her presidency. What makes it so frustrating is the flip-flopping of administration congressmen, who advocated for the constitutional process to take place, rather than troop to the streets and ask for the president to step down.

I am particularly irked by the faces of Cong. Prospero Pichay and Cong. Prospero Nograles. In my opinion, these lawmakers are the epitome of the bastardized system of politics here in the country. Talagang mga walang-hiya! Cong. Nograles even went on to sing during an interview for a news program this week. I echo with Cong. Plaza, in the same vehement voice he used, and ask “What kind of congress is this?!”

Unfortunately for the Filipino people, we do not have leaders. We have jokers, posing as leaders. Look at Juan Ponce Enrile. He is the epitome of a political butterfly. Wala nang tatalo sa kawalang hiyaan ng senador na ito! Why people still vote for such a pathetic soul baffles me. His promise of going after the proponents of the price power adjustment of PPA, remains a promise up to this very day. Bakit pa ba natin binoboto ang mga taong ganito? Kung saan maganda ang ihip ng hanggin, dun sila lulugar. Has the political system been paralized this much by the insatiable greed for power by our “leaders”? The answer is a resounding…Y-E-S!

Our president (I refuse to mention her name or initials because in a split second, my migraine will start kicking in.)is the perfect example of a person hanging on to power desperately. Tell me that she didn’t have a hand in the suspension of the e-vat and I’ll jump of the window of my office building! Or then again, I may not! Remember what Miriam said…”I LIED…HAHAHAHAHA!”

What semblance of morality can she now allude to that little by little, not only is her hold on power reduced as the days go by, pero lahat ng baho niya, na gumuguhit sa mga ilong at lalamunan ng bawat Pilipino na naghihirap sa ating bayan, ay lumalabs na! Yung baho ng mga “bata” niya sa kongreso at senado, amoy na amoy na! Si Garci, wala na!

Our political leaders of today are nothing short of pigs…or in our native tongue…baboy! Tama, sila ay mga baboy…kung di baka mas masasahol pa sa mga baboy! And yet they sit, they eat, they drink and they steal. That’s right…just like pigs…..parang mga baboy!

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Loi_Pogi

August 25th, 2005 at 1:37 pm

Hello PCIJ people,

Pls check paragraph 8 of your post:

Administration congressmen lauded RODRIGUEZ’s withdrawal as a “principled” move, even proclaiming that “Magsaysay is our guy,” an apparent allusion to the popular campaign slogan of then Pres. Ramon Magsaysay, the lawmaker’s uncle.

It’s Eulogio “Amang” Magsaysay and not Eulogio ‘Amang’ Rodriguez who withdrew his signature. Baka po bumangon sa hukay si Amang sa konting pagkakamaling ito. Pakitama po.

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tonyvn

August 25th, 2005 at 2:54 pm

Ilan pa kaya ang tulad ni Magsaysay? Ang taong ito ay walang saysay sa sambayanang Pilipino!… Siya pa man din ang naglantad ng kampo ng Kadiliman (GMA) tungkol sa matinding panunuhol ng pera para sa hindi pagpirma sa Impeachment Complain at nagmamalaki pa siyang di siya mabibili. Yon pala ay kulang lang ang offer at nagpataas lang pala ng presyo at ayon nakuha ang gusto niya. Magkano ba? Napakababaw ang iyong dahilan para bawiin ang pirma. Ano Gago? pipirma na hindi alam ang laman ng pinipirmahan!… tama ka na nga! at walang kakagat sa rason mo kundi yong mga tulad mo ring mga “Tanga at Bobo” !.. Kawawa naman ang pamilya ng dating Pres Magsaysay at sinira mo ng ganon lang! Wala kang kwentang representante ng sambayanan at kahit iyong puri ay iyong ipinagbili. Magkano ka ba binili? kawawang bayan!.. kung panay ganitong klaseng Kongresista ang mga namumuno. Sama-sama na kayo nila DeVenicia, Pichay, Nograles, Lagman, Baterina at kung sinu-sino pang mga tagpagtangol sa nuno ng “Sinungaling, Mandaraya at Magnanakaw”!… makarma sana kayo!…Buhay pa kayo sinusunog na ang inyong kaluluwa sa empiyerno!…

Salamat sa mga Kabataang Kongresista na tulad nila Remulla, Barbers, Dudot at iba pa! mabuhay kayo!…

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Vhin05

August 25th, 2005 at 3:24 pm

Pano nga nman tau magkakaroon ng isang mapayapang pamayanan kung ang mga namumuno sa atin ang siyang unang gumugulo nito… Dapat sa inyo mawa la na sa mundo!!!

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Alecks Pabico

August 25th, 2005 at 4:34 pm

Thanks for pointing that out, Loi Pogi. Definitely a slip. His full name is Eulogio Rodriguez Magsaysay, that’s why. :-)

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lethal_pointofview

August 25th, 2005 at 9:14 pm

Magsaysay was a big joke…

Magsaysay was a “Blank Minded”…

Magsaysay cannot read and think…

Magsaysay is termed BOBO…by the party he represent with…

Magsaysay has a thick face…

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noelet

August 25th, 2005 at 9:43 pm

Hehe pera nga naman noh… ayaw pa kasi umamin ni Magsaysay na napressure syang tanggapin ang pera.

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doctorT

August 26th, 2005 at 1:24 am

Pera pera lang lahat ngayon sa Pilipinas. Walang kwuenta mga politiko, sila ang salot sa bayan. Ang mga militar, parang mga robot, kung anung iutos, sunod. Langhiya mabuti umakyat na lang tayo sa bundo . Mas maganda pa maging kumunista.

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MitaMS

August 26th, 2005 at 3:50 am

Eulogio Magsaysay is not so distant a relation to “The Guy”. He’s the son of ex-VP candidate, the late Genaro “Gene” Magsaysay, who was the late president’s younger brother. He is also the grandson of the late Senate President Eulogio “Amang” Rodriguez, another political giant from our past.

Amang Magsaysay carries two very prominent and well-respected names in Philippine politics. An honor he sadly doesn’t deserve. Such a shame of an excuse – I didn’t read. tsk tsk…

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datu_lakandiwa

August 26th, 2005 at 8:09 am

DO YOU KNOW?

EVEN EULOGAGO ESTE EULOGIO MAGSASAY’S COUSIN SENATOR JUN MAGSAYSAY CANNOT CLAIM THAT HE IS HIS COUSIN. SENADOR MAGSAYSAY REFER TO EULOHILO ESTE EULOGIO AS HIS UNCLE’S SON!!!!

AMANG!!!!!! IKINAHIHIYA KA NG ANGKAN MO!!!!!

MAGPALIT KA NA NG APELYIDO OR ELSE BAKA SILA ANG MAGPALIT NG APELYIDO!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!! NAKAKAHIYA KA!!!!!!!!

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butsukoy

August 26th, 2005 at 8:50 am

JMONEY45
Conrado de Quiroz is right, television owners should have an advisory before the news program proper that watching GMA and other gov officials on tv are hazardous to our health. Nakakataas ng dugo. He he

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indio_lawless

August 26th, 2005 at 8:53 am

Eulogio “Amang” R. Magsaysay’s e-mail are as follows : ave_party @yahoo.com and crjramag@nsclub.net. His fax number is 9315360.
Send an e-mail or fax this tiMang,este Amang, to undone his blunder.

He got an Ph.D, but he got no b_lls to stand on what ought to be right.

I didn’t vote for AVE nor I heard about AVE prior to the election but it won a seat and there goes tiMang, este Amang.

tiMANG, este Amang, is the “pressure” same as the pressure when you seek the congressional seat? Sayang ka, doc.

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indio_lawless

August 26th, 2005 at 8:59 am

Alecks,

tiMANGs, este Amang’s COS per the congressional record is a certain guy named Gary. Is he the one you are referring to above as “who told the congressman to just read its pertinent portion” ?

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butsukoy

August 26th, 2005 at 9:00 am

PhD = Puro hangin ang Dibdib

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Alecks Pabico

August 26th, 2005 at 9:13 am

indio_lawless,

I guess he’s the one.

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indio_lawless

August 26th, 2005 at 10:04 am

Thanks Alecks.

Gary, according to sources in Congress, used to work in the Senate particularly in the Office of then Senator Ramon Revilla,Sr.

Now he is the Chief of Staff of tiMang,este Amang.

Gary, don’t allow yourself to sink along with your big fat boss.

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ANAK_NG_JUETENG

August 26th, 2005 at 11:14 am

lagot ! pati dito kumakalat ang ‘dagdag bawas’ sa pirma.

hindi ko talaga maintindihan ang nasa isip ni ‘Eulogio’

sabi dito:

‘Now, Magsaysay said he is abiding by the dictum that a person is presumed innocent unless proven otherwise beyond reasonable doubt, adding that he will vote according to his conscience and to the evidences to be presented to the justice committee.’

hindi ba iyong pirma nila ang ‘susi’ para gumalaw yung process para malaman kung innocent or guilty yung tao ? Hindi naman sinasabi sa ‘pagpirma’ mo ay ‘guilty’ na yung tao. ANG LABO talaga ng pagiisip ng ‘Magsaysay’ na yan.

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ole

August 26th, 2005 at 11:22 am

hoy! MAGSAYSAY, pano ka napunta jan sa senado, pano ka nakapasa sa eskwela? di ka naman pal marunong magbasa!!! dinaan mo lang ba sa pera? kaya sanay ka na sa perahan? Pera lang pala katapat mo? sinira mo pa ang pangalang Magsaysay…. Pwe!!!

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indio_lawless

August 26th, 2005 at 11:35 am

Kapatid na Ole, if you are referring to tiMang, este Amang Magsaysay, taga-HOR po sya.

But if you are thingking of Jun Magsaysay, the you are correct na taga-Senado ho sya.

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vonpogi

August 26th, 2005 at 11:47 am

Mga kababayan ko pinasasalamatan ko si Eulogio “MAMANG” Magsaysay dahil sa kanya ay dumadami na ang pipirma. Naiinis ang mga CONGRESSMAN na undecided dahil sa sobrang abuso ni Pandak. Biro mo kahit na kamag anak na MAGSAYSAY (pinsan ni EULOGIO “MAMANG”) ay sinabi na may pressure sa itaas at binabangit ang mga ginawang tulong sa mga congressman (IOU) at may pera
pa ng kapalit. Kinahihiya mismo ng mga MAGSAYSAY ang pinsan nila. EDUCATORS pa naman ang titl;e ni pero bobo rin pala. Sayang at pinahiya mo ang magandang image ng “MAGSAYSAY”

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vonpogi

August 26th, 2005 at 11:57 am

TUMATAAS NA ANG GUSTONG PUMIRMA SA KASO LABAN KAY PANDAK. SALAMAT SA MGA BATANG CONGRESSMAN NA PINAKITA NILA NA HINDI SILA NAKUKUHA SA IBANG BAGAY AT SANA AY IPAG PATULOY NILA ANG KANILANG SINASABI AT HINDI ABANTE OR ATRAS ANG GAGAWIN NILA. SILA NA RIN ANG NAG SABI AT NAG CONFIRMED NA SI PANDAK MISMO ANG TUMATAWAG PARA LANG HUWAG SILA PUMIRMA AT MAY PERA PANG MAKUKUHA. KANINA AY 2 ANG PIPIRMA AT MAYROON PANG GUSTONG SUMUNOD. SA MGA GANID NA ALAGAD NI PANDAK LALO NA SI NOGRALES AT DATUNG AY MAHIYA KAYO.

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ANAK_NG_JUETENG

August 26th, 2005 at 1:37 pm

Hindi ba pandak si Eulogio ?

hindi niyo ba napapansin ?

Morph niyo si Mike Arroyo at gma. Ang result : Eulogio
Morphing yata will only take two to three video frames,
at smooth transition na yon.

Hindi kaya dahil striking ‘physical’ resemblance na yan
kaya naging ‘erratic’ na ang pagiisip ni Eulogio ?

O baka naman ito yung nawawalang anak ni Mike A and gma
at pinakupkop lang sa angkang Magsaysay.

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CGBacani

August 26th, 2005 at 3:17 pm

Sa mga pulitikong katulad ni Magsaysay, simple lang ang utak ng mga yan — kwarta o kahon!!

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CGBacani

August 26th, 2005 at 3:24 pm

At bakit kwarta o kahon, let me explain. Initially this Magsaysay guy claimed that he is being brbed by Malacanang. So he raise his price by giving some numbers. He signed the complaint (kahon) and since he thinks that hindi siya kikita sa kahon, he decided to withdaw from the complaint and get the kwarta.

Sayang ka Magsaysay ka pa naman!!!!!

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ben

August 26th, 2005 at 4:18 pm

SAYANG KA SAYANG KA, MAGSAYSAY PA NAMAN APELIDO MO NIYURAKAN MO NASAAN ANG PRINSIPYO MO (MAGKANO BA?)?

but anyway, its nice to note that tere are others (Reps. Reyes, Barbers, Jaworski and Remulla) who are members of the majority that stood out in principle and help ferret the truth, yan ang PRINSIPYO nababasa mo ba ‘to ha ha Magsaysay…PESTE KA.

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juanbagwis

August 26th, 2005 at 6:20 pm

Magsaysay could have been blackmailed by the government due to his alleged checkered past, a “secret” that he doesnt want to be revealed to the public. kaya nagkakandabulol ang mama. Kawawa naman at sayang siya.Next time, sana pumili ng respetadong representative ang kanilang partido kung sakaling makalusot ulit sila sa susunod

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noelet

August 26th, 2005 at 7:00 pm

I think so too.

Mukhang Malacanan is resorting to black propaganda, like the raid on Tabayoyong’s apartment. Also seerching for black-mail materials against congressmen, allies, possible witnesses. Ndi naman pera-pera tlaga yan e. Pede naman nila makuha gusto nila ng ndi nagbibigay ng pera. Mukha nga na-blackmail yan si Magsaysay.

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rob

August 26th, 2005 at 9:47 pm

well guys its really sad how anti-impeachment are acting…talagang hindi na nahiya. imagine resorting to propaganda that more will withdraw their support for the impeachment.

GMA know kase na pag umabot sa senate….siguradong tapos sya.

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baycas

August 26th, 2005 at 10:57 pm

regarding eulogio’s turnaround:

can just be money be involved? how about “soft touch” methods advocated by “the great houdini” Garci? it happened several times in the past. even msgr. soc villegas was used to “rescue” agent doble, remember?…desperate times call for desperate moves…

btw, in his dossier at i-site.ph, amang’s a college magna cum laude graduate from University of Southern California, USA (bachelor of arts in political science). a very bright student but a very dull politician…”sayang ang utak, di nagamit!”

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noelet

August 26th, 2005 at 11:38 pm

Na black-mail yan. Baka bading sya tapos na-wiretap ng ISAFP or nakunan ng nude pictures. Dba? 😉

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kloi

August 27th, 2005 at 4:48 am

WHAT.. USC magna cum laude si Magsaysay… then alibi niya hindi niya binasa ang amended impeachment …. TANGINAMO… utak bolinao mayroon ka seguro. nakakahiya ka sa taga USC…

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apollo

August 27th, 2005 at 7:35 am

kloi, ukinam…. taga-bolinao ako…. anong ibig mong sabihing utak-bolinao si eulogio?….. binabastos mo kaming taga-bolinao, pangasinan ah….. pakita ka sa akin at uupakan kita… ano palag ka?

bakit ba hindi niyo maintindihan na naghihintay lang ng mas malaking suhol si eulogio?

bukod pa sa taglay niyang kamangmangan…este karunungan… ano pa ba ang inaasahan niyo?

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baycas

August 27th, 2005 at 7:40 am

yup! magsay-sé was blackmailed. Although, all the while, i was thinking of a gentler persuasion like having his (or aptly “her”) pet cat at knife-point…or under threat to expose his tongs (with E.R.M. daintily embroidered on the crotch) in congress…or barring his boyfriend from seeing him for one month!

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piranha

August 27th, 2005 at 10:01 am

tsk!tsk!tsk dagdag bawas is working again. nag-ala tsunami ng pera siguro &*^%$#

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Patricia Perez

August 27th, 2005 at 6:51 pm

With regards to Amang Magsaysay, “amang” in visayan is “pipi” in tagalog, halatang halata si Amang na talagang amang siya…hindi niya alam ang pinagsasabi niya sa t.v. halatang tinanggap niya ang P500,000,00! Nakakahiya ka naman sa mga taga cebu na Magsaysay clan who are all prominent and have good moral standing in the community. Nagyon lang sa history ng Pilipinas na may dumungis sa pangalang Magsaysay. Better for Eulogio to drop the family name Magsaysay and add only amang to make his name Tongressman Eulogio Amang. Please huwag ka nang gumamit ng Magsaysay!

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juana

August 27th, 2005 at 11:27 pm

apollo… kloi is from mindanao… bolinao is dilis in tagalog. when we say utak bolinao… may pinakamaliit na utak….

hindi papalag si kloi sa iyo punta ka sa mindanao,kailangan ang tapang mo doon.

anong ukinam.. masarap ba yan…

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doctorT

August 28th, 2005 at 12:46 am

LANG HIYA! KAPAL NG MUKHA MONG KONGRESMAN KA!

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vonpogi

August 28th, 2005 at 1:18 am

Apollo utak bolinao ka rin ba at nag hahamon ka ng away dito sa chat. Tapang mo dito pero ewan ko lang kung lalaban ka (baka salita ka lang). Kaya tigilan na natin mag yabang at asikasuhin natin kung ano ang dapat natin gawin para mawala si PANDAK na napaka ganid sa pera.Kaya cool ka lang Apollo. Ibuhos mo kay PANDAK ang galit mo. :)

Ukinam diba bad word rin iyan (PUTANG INA MO) tama ba ako.????

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vonpogi

August 28th, 2005 at 1:27 am

Hinding totoong Magna Cum Laude sa USC si Eulogio “Mangmang” Walangsaysay. Nabili lang niya sa Recto ang pekeng diploma at mga records. Alam mo naman sa atin nagagawa lahat at kaya nga ganyan ang utak niya dahil “Mangmang” siya. USC graduate daw. Pero bibilib kayo sa mga MangMang dahil magaling rin gumawa ng pera at tumaas ang price niya. Hindi na P500 Thousands ngayon ay millions na at may extra allowance pa para sa kaliwang bulsa.

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apollo

August 28th, 2005 at 10:34 am

vonpogi ba kamo?

pag tayo nagkita hindi ka na tatawaging pogi….at sasabihin ko sa iyo… papalagan kita….kahit sino pang isama mo….

para sabihin mong ang isang tao eh utak maliit at gamitin ang pangalan ng isang lugar eh napakalaking katarantaduhan iyon dahil insulto yon para sa mga tao sa lugar na yon….

para bang bumabansag ka na kung ang isang tao eh butangero eh laking tundo ito….eh di ba malaking katangahan iyon…. marami kong kaibigang taga-tundo at karamihan sa kanila eh mararangal at mababait na tao…

ngayon palagay mo ba eh matutuwa ako na ang itawag sa kamangmangan ni eulogio eh utak bolinao… [PUTANGINA MO RIN]…
eh di ba kabastusan yon?

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vonpogi

August 28th, 2005 at 10:53 am

Kaya dapat sa iyo ay utak BOLINAO talaga eh. Tapang mo dre? baka mapasubo ka. Isang bala ka lang at kung ako sa iyo ay mag cool ka nalang diyan. Kumain ka ng Halo Halo para mabawasan ang tapang mo. Ika nga ang nag hahamon ng away sa mga hindi nakikita ay kabaliktaran na duwag rin. Inis matalo lang iyan. Ako ay ginagamit ko ang utak ko para hindi ako tawagan ng UTAK BOLINAO. Pinaliwanag na sa iyo kung ano ang ibig sabihin ay hindi mo pa rin makuha. Utak bolinao ka talaga diba at dahil doon ka galing sabi mo., Ano ang kinakagalit mo. Cool ka lang dre, dahil hindi mo rin kakilalala ang mga nakaka usap mo rito.

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vonpogi

August 28th, 2005 at 11:10 am

Apollo pinaliwanag na sa iyo ni Juana kung ano ang Ibig sabihin ng BOLINAO sa Mindanao at ang hinahamon mong away ay isang Babae. Tanungin mo muna kung lalake iyun. Nakakahiya ka (bakla ka yata) Inis talo lang iyan. Basahin mo ang mga sinasabi nina Kloi at Juana para matauhan ka. Hindi nila binabastos ang mga tiga Bolinao, Pangasinan at nataon lang na DILIS ang ibig sabihin niyon. Kaya bago ka mag hamon ay mag tanong ka muna. Babae ang aawayin mo ano ka ? :) Cool lang dre.
To Kloi and Juana,

Ako na ang humihingi ng paumanhin sa asal ni Apollo at hindi alam ang ginagawa , Sorry Apollo. :)

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ANAK_NG_JUETENG

August 28th, 2005 at 11:10 am

Narinig din yata ni ‘Eulogio’ yung Galban Binalbag ni Tiongco at Defensor.
kaya niya binawi yung pirma. Possibleng ‘in-sync’ pareho ang
kanilang mga utak. Its his (or her) hand but it is not him (or her) signing.
Ay malabo yata.

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ANAK_NG_JUETENG

August 28th, 2005 at 11:23 am

kloi, apollo, vonpogi dont act like a ‘MAGSAYSAY’ at gulo lang ang hahantungin niyan. ‘BASAHIN’ muna kasi ng maigi yung mga post at ng magkaintindihan kayo.

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vonpogi

August 28th, 2005 at 11:31 am

TO ANAK_NG_JUETENG

SORRY AT HINDI KASI NAGKA INTINDIHAN DITO SA CHAT AT KAYA PINAPABASA KO ULIT KAY APOLLO ANG MGA NAKASULAT DITO SA CHAT. SABI KO NGA SA KANYA AY IBUHOS NA LANG KAY MGA MAGNANAKAW SA GOBYERNO NATIN ANG GALIT NIYA EH. SORRY! AYOKONG MAGING “MAGSAYSAY” ANO. SABAGAY MAHIRAP MAGYABANG NG HINDI NAKIKITA ANG KAAWAY DIBA. :)

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nolram

August 28th, 2005 at 12:01 pm

Hindot kang Magsaysay ka!

Umalis ka na dyan sa Congress!

Bayaran ka pala, Hayop Ka!

MAGSAYSAY, MAGSALSAL KA NA LANG!

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vonpogi

August 28th, 2005 at 12:13 pm

Mga kaibigan ko at sabi ng spy namin sa palace ay mag papatawag ulit si Arroyo ng meeting at iyun mga may balak pumirma laban sa kanya. Talagang napasukan sila at nalaman ang mga pangalan ng Congress na may balak mag sign. Garapalan na ang ginagawa ngayon nila sabi ng SPY sa loob ng Palace. Pati aang ibang tao daw ay hindi na raw masikmura.

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ANAK_NG_JUETENG

August 28th, 2005 at 12:15 pm

they should add this term in the ‘lawyer’s’ dictionary and include it in the law board exam as a trick question:

MAGSAYSAY SYNDROME – a mind state of any individual signing public documents, such as contracts, deed of sale. and impeachment complaints WITHOUT bothering reading the contents of document.

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masha

August 28th, 2005 at 1:45 pm

imagine ipinagpalit ni gma si licuanan for impeachment deals. sinisiraan pa nila yung tao na kesyo di nakayanan ang trabaho. e di ba licuanan was at the helm of ayala for a long time? naman. garapal na talaga ang mga taga malacanang. licuanan is too decent to say anything against gma and they attack him? that’s just plain evil. how can you say you’re matino and still be on gma’s side.

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Alecks Pabico

August 28th, 2005 at 4:25 pm

A little restraint, everyone. Let’s not resort to name-calling and personal attacks please.

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ANAK_NG_JUETENG

August 28th, 2005 at 8:20 pm

Headline says – BILLIONS IN FARM FUNDS USED FOR ARROYO CAMPAIGN!
Oh Man! The garci tapes and the Jueteng accusations are just ‘peanuts’
if you see this one. Is this still part of the tip of the iceberg or half
of the iceberg exposed ? I feel stupid if i insist that i am ’stiil’ proud to
be a filipino. Sheeeeeeeeeshhhhh.

Alecks, why not put this in a blog entry so that we can put our
comments. We will behave. Promise.

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apollo

August 29th, 2005 at 11:07 am

bakit vonpogi…kilala mo rin ba ako?

cool ako…pero tanga ka dahil hindi ka marunong ng respeto….at umintindi na kaya ako nagagalit eh dahil me dahilan….alam mo ang mali kahit na ano pang dahilan ang gamitin eh mali pa rin…

sinabi mo pang ako eh isang bala lang…buwahahaha…. hindi mo nga ako kilala… pero ikaw alam kong tanga ka talaga…. dahil hindi mo sasabihin yon kung kilala mo ako….hahahhahah

ako… tahimik… pero kung mangaaskad ka…. papatulan kita….

alam mo ang isang mali laging tinutuwid… katulad ni arroyo dapat ayusin…. wala namang sini-sino ang katotohanan ke lalaki oh babae pa… doon lang tayo sa tama…. di ba mr. bopols?

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apollo

August 29th, 2005 at 11:08 am

pasensiya na sa iba…. hirap makipagusap sa mga tanga eh….

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bukolitos

August 30th, 2005 at 12:36 am

Maybe they upped the ante, The guy said he doesn’t direct knowledge of the allegations against GMA that’s why he was withdrawing his support for the impeachment. Who does? None of the congressman have a direct knowledge, that’s why the impeachment is an important venue to present evidences to support their claim. If the impeachment is killed at the house, then GMA would still be perceived by the people to be guilty of fraud and of using the people’s money for her presidency. Ngayon, itinaas na niya ang mga taxes para mabayaran ang mga winaldas niya at ang panggastos niya para sa mga Congressman. She is the worst President that we ever had and to think that she is even a legitimate President.

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kloi

August 30th, 2005 at 3:03 am

apollo gusto ko tapang mo .. ang galing mong mag hamon nang babae… punta ka malacanang hamonin mo si gloria..
pag uwi ko ulit pinas isasama kita sa mindanao subukan ko tapang mo.

von pogi maraming salamat.

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mindanao

August 30th, 2005 at 3:56 am

“A word for a day like these…”

IN EVERY FAMILY, THERE’S A BLACK SHEEP….

Pls. Feel in the blanks to pass the current events exam:

Magsaysay Family Black Sheep? : _______________

Macapagal Family Black Sheep? : _____________

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rich__ong

August 30th, 2005 at 8:29 am

AVE party list….

Volunteer educators

Educate us with what????
Ans: How to be a Traditional Politician 101

May pahabol pa yung SBMA….

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kikz

September 1st, 2005 at 5:19 pm

Now the amendment impeachment complaints had been disposed at the justice committee, what should we do now?

Civil disobedience
Revolution
No to taxes

etc…

People of the Philippines — we have a fake president…
Let us now do what we can do to make this country prosper…

We can not entrust this to our honorable? tongressman any longer…
We as a people is the only hope in this country…

We need to work together to fight this evil and immoral government of Gloria Macapal Arroyo…

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Timtim2

September 1st, 2005 at 5:44 pm

bakit po ba ganun mga kuya? kapag pro-administration ang pumapanig sa opposition, may konsyensya at para bagang pinapalabas na hero. pero, kapag pumapanig na sa administrasyon (ke pro-admin noon o kapwa nila opposition members) binayaran daw.

baka nagpapanic lang ang mga yan dahil hanggang ngayon hindi pa umaabot sa 79 ang signatures na kelangan nila. tapos, may mga gusto pang iwithdraw ang suporta sa kanila. baka nga psy war lang na 70 na na pinagmamalaki nilang signatures no.

magbatuhan ng pangungutsa ang magkabilang panig, sa huli ito lang mga ito ang titignan:

sufficient in form and substance ba ang complaint?
may sapat bang ebidensya?

eh ang sagot ay parehong hindi. kaya, talo sila. kaya hindi nila ito matanggap tanggap. dinadaan na lang sa ingay at palabas.

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noelet

September 1st, 2005 at 6:30 pm

timtim nakakatuwa ka lang… parang alam mo sinasabi mo.

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usda_gradeameat

September 2nd, 2005 at 12:43 pm

ang hindi ko gets sa mga kampi ke PANDAK….kayo ba e hindi interesadong malaman kung ano talaga ang nangyari noong nakaraang eleksyon? Napakasimple lang naman e..Kung wala talagang kasalanan si SATANAS…edi malalaman natin….TAPOS!..ituloy ang impeachment!!

-MANINDIGAN SA KATOTOHANAN!!!

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INSIDE PCIJ: Stories behind our stories » Patronage politics as usual

September 4th, 2005 at 10:17 am

[…] How else can it be explained that congressmen will sign the amended complaint only to withdraw their endorsements at this all-important stage — and under the flimsiest of excuses as not being able to read its contents or because the justice committee decided not to consider it anyway? […]

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mr. wilkins

September 5th, 2005 at 11:34 am

TIMTIM BAT mo nasabing hindi suficient in form and substance eh nag bulag bulagan yung makapal na mukhang congressmen na i consider yung lozano complaint.

Tingnan lang nila yung amended complaint.

Ang sabi ng Constitution is “proceeding”. Ang proceeding ay yung nasakdal ang akusado talaga. Yung “complaint” and “proceeding” ay mag kaiba. Pero walang kahiya hiyang binababoy ng mga bayarang buwaya ang proseso nga impeachment.

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datu_lakandiwa

September 6th, 2005 at 3:29 pm

i wonder how in the future, schools will teach about history regarding “GMA’s Election cheating”, chatting with Garci and Lying. It seems “the august body” RAW which is the lower house make it appear to the Filipino people that those things “abhorrent as they are” were righteous and dignifying!!!!

Nakakahiya naman. Ano na lang mangyayari sa ating mga kabataan??????

They are corrupting the minds of our youngs, and making our future more immoral!!!

What is happening to our country Gloria Macapagal Arroyo?????

Why have have you corrupted the whole Philippines??????

From the military to judiciary to the supreme court and of course ” it started from the head of the executive departmet”

WHATTA SHAME!!!!!!!

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selene

September 6th, 2005 at 7:22 pm

datu_lakandiwa,

How does history teach about Bonifacio’s execution in the hands of Aguinaldo?

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selene

September 6th, 2005 at 7:28 pm

mr wilkins,

Lozano’s complaint was sufficient in form but insufficient in substance. The complaint’s basis was the supposed wiretaps which are inadmissible in evidence.

The so-called amended complaint, on the other hand, is actually a separate complaint since it contains new accusations that were not included in the original complaint.

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selene

September 6th, 2005 at 7:34 pm

I listened to many of the speeches in Congress this morning. It appears that the opposition were soliciting endorsements for their impeachment complaint even BEFORE it was completed. Huh?

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kavenishi

September 6th, 2005 at 7:49 pm

datu_lakandiwa said,
September 6, 2005 @ 3:29 pm

i wonder how in the future, schools will teach about history regarding “GMA’s Election cheating”, chatting with Garci and Lying. It seems “the august body” RAW which is the lower house make it appear to the Filipino people that those things “abhorrent as they are” were righteous and dignifying!!!!

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Sa tingin mo ba ituturo yan sa school. Isasama ba yan sa history subject. No way… Yung ngang kay Ninoy hindi man masyadong tinuturo sa school, yan pa kayang tungkol sa process sa congress… Baka yung kukuha ng law at political science ituturo pa yan pero yung sa history na subject malayong mangyari yan.
Yung iba jan na ginagamit na reason kun anong ituturo nila sa kanilang mga magiging anak sa nangyaring ito mga hipokrito kayo. Mga O.A. masyado. Ni minsan hindi ninyo paguusapan yan sa bahay pagdating ng panahon eh. After 5 yrs. limot na yan, hindi na importante ang nangyari ngayon sa congress. Iba na ang pagkakaabalahan natin. I wonder kung magkakainteres ba ang mga magiging anak natin tungkol jan? Magtatanong ba sila? hindi na siguro kasi hi-tech na nun at baka tungkol sa computer na ang itatanong.

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datu_lakandiwa

September 9th, 2005 at 8:11 am

kavenishi said,
September 6, 2005 @ 7:49 pm

datu_lakandiwa said,
September 6, 2005 @ 3:29 pm

i wonder how in the future, schools will teach about history regarding “GMA’s Election cheating”, chatting with Garci and Lying. It seems “the august body” RAW which is the lower house make it appear to the Filipino people that those things “abhorrent as they are” were righteous and dignifying!!!!

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Sa tingin mo ba ituturo yan sa school. Isasama ba yan sa history subject. No way… Yung ngang kay Ninoy hindi man masyadong tinuturo sa school, yan pa kayang tungkol sa process sa congress… Baka yung kukuha ng law at political science ituturo pa yan pero yung sa history na subject malayong mangyari yan.
Yung iba jan na ginagamit na reason kun anong ituturo nila sa kanilang mga magiging anak sa nangyaring ito mga hipokrito kayo. Mga O.A. masyado. Ni minsan hindi ninyo paguusapan yan sa bahay pagdating ng panahon eh. After 5 yrs. limot na yan, hindi na importante ang nangyari ngayon sa congress. Iba na ang pagkakaabalahan natin. I wonder kung magkakainteres ba ang mga magiging anak natin tungkol jan? Magtatanong ba sila? hindi na siguro kasi hi-tech na nun at baka tungkol sa computer na ang itatanong.

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that’s part of our history, Yun ngang pasts people power revolution kasama ehh, and she’s the 14th president of the philippines, the first to win via massive and worldwide election cheating(courtesy of oversea voting). Yan pa kaya ang hindi masama sa history???????

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selene

September 9th, 2005 at 7:50 pm

datu_lakandiwa said,

“the first to win via massive and worldwide election cheating”
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I have better hope of history being taught more accurately in schools than you will be able to teach your children at home. The main difference would probably be that the word “alleged” will be in the vocabulary of the schoolchildren–I hope they will be in your descendants’ vocabularies too.

The schools will also probably teach the children about the importance of due process, and of the significance of numbers in a democracy.

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gagay

September 9th, 2005 at 7:54 pm

alleged, eh umamin na ngang tumawag sa comelec commissioner during election to protect her votes, alleged pa rin, eh pano nga magkaka due process eh mismo ngang impeachment niluto. ikaw ang bulag at bingi!

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gagay

September 9th, 2005 at 7:57 pm

yeah right significance OF number in democracy. like pag ta tamper ng election returns to achieve that number. pwe!

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TRESTON

September 26th, 2006 at 2:53 pm

Amang should be in a life style check. I heard that before he lived in a condo unit in greenhills but now after his partylist won in the 2004 elections they moved to north greenhills.
Right now he has a couple of new luxurious cars under different names.

Attention PCIJ do some research on this! thanks.

Amang is a joke in congress.How can a person like him who proudly says to his peers and students that he is brilliant and yet in congress he looks like a clown. He cant even read his speech straight with flying colors. He stammered all the time.

He should be investigated because he might be using the education sector just for his own alleviation.

According to what i read, he is a teacher in OB Montessoria and yet doin nothing for the sector he represents.

This is my challenge to all u!

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