July 15, 2005 · Posted in: In the News

Wiretap wonderland

THINGS are getting curiouser and curiouser.

First it was the battle of the press statements. Then it was the war of news conferences. Then they launched the battle of the rallies. Today, it was the war of the wiretapped conversations, the latest engagement in the battle of pirated CDs.

Ilocos Sur Gov. Luis “Chavit” Singson, a diehard supporter of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, yesterday released to the media what he said was a wiretapped conversation in which former President Joseph Estrada appears to have approved a plan to assassinate Mrs. Arroyo and do away with former President Fidel Ramos.

Singson said two persons he did not know had given him copies of the CDs containing a wiretapped phone call supposedly made by Estrada in May 2004 to former armed forces chief Joselin Nazareno. He told reporters that this was part of the unreleased segments of the “mother of all tapes” in the possession of former National Bureau of Investigation deputy director Samuel Ong, the same tape from which the “Hello, Garci” conversations came.

Reporters lapped up the handful of CDs Singson brought along for distribution to the press. The CDs were stamped with labels: they were entitled “The X-Tapes” and even had a caricature of President Joseph Estrada, as well as a playlist of the six cuts in the CD, the last of which was the wiretapped Estrada conversation.

The first five cuts of the CD included a call in which Estrada inquired from Nazareno, who seemed to be the one being tapped, about the results of the 2004 count. Another call had an Estrada aide talking to a politician or political operative in Mindanao. Senator Panfilo Lacson said in an interview with DZMM that these calls appeared to have been recorded by the Intelligence Service of the Armed Forces of the Philippines with the cooperation of Smart, the mobile-phone company. (The Smart spokesman subsequently denied they had cooperated with ISAFP.)

The last cut, where Estrada supposedly plots the president’s assassination, sounds suspect, as the sound quality is noticeably clearer than those of the other cuts. Lacson insisted this was a manufactured conversation and so did Senator Jinggoy Estrada.

Over GMA Channel 7, the younger Estrada called Chavit’s revelations a "diversionary tactic meant to shift public attention to Erap." Jinggoy said that in his father’s long years of public service, had not heard of Erap plotting the murder of anyone. The same could not be said of the man who released the tape, Jinggoy said, referring to Singson.

In the alleged conversation, a voice, supposedly Nazareno’s, told his caller, supposedly Estrada, that Lacson had approved a plan to remove "pandak" (midget) and replace her with a "tanda" (crone) through a transition government.

The first voice then said "tanda" would get sick, leading the way for Estrada’s return to power. Tanda was apparently a reference to Ramos.

Beside Singson at the press conference was Ramon “RJ” Jacinto, former Lakas congressional candidate and owner of radio station DZRJ. In 2001,at the height of EDSA 2, Jacinto was also responsible for coming out with anti-Estrada CDs containing songs lampooning the former action star. He is also a staunch Arroyo supporter.

Early yesterday morning, text messages sent to journalists already announced that DZRJ would be playing wiretapped CDs implicating Estrada.

This latest release appears to be an attempt by the President’s supporters to muddy the trail and confuse the public mind. It was apparently released in an attempt to draw public attention away from the “Hello, Garci” tapes and a recent revelation that the president had talked to Garcilliano about padded votes or dagdag.

Meanwhile, in Malacanang earlier today, a feisty Mrs. Arroyo lashed back at her critics and accused them of having no plan of action, merely a “blueprint for obfuscation.”

“Even if people don’t like me right now, neither will they follow a road to nowhere,” she said in an uncharacteristically animated and forceful manner. In a meeting with some 500 Filipino-Americans gathered at Malacanang’s Rizal Hall, the president also announced her endorsement of constitutional change and a restructuring of the Cabinet to allow her, she said, to focus on the business of reforms. She named erstwhile NEDA chief Romulo Neri head of the budget department and banker Peter Favila  secretary of trade and industry. She  did not, however, announce a timetable for charter change and made no commitment to calling elections earlier than the end of her term in 2010.

She sidestepped these issues, instead promising more doleouts, in an apparent bid to win more public support.  These included cheap rice to be sold in National Food Authority rolling stores, subsidies to local governments that would allow them to extend Philhealth cards for another year, and a road construction program to give jobs to the unemployed.

 The measures did not include the demands the Cabinet members who resigned last week had made of the president, among them, a revamp of government to rid it of those associated with First Gentleman Mike Arroyo. The president’s speech was more like something she usually gave out while on the campaign stump. It was apparently intended to show she was in control and it was business as usual.

111 Responses to Wiretap wonderland

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Chihiro

July 15th, 2005 at 12:43 am

San yung tracks? We’d like to download and hear for ourselves.

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Maria

July 15th, 2005 at 1:37 am

I’m not pro Estrada nor GMA. The main problem here is rigging the election. The people that are involved in cheating the election itself and I ponder what got to do with Estrada plotting to kill GMA on present political crises in the Philippines? What I know the the crises started at “jueting payola” then ” the mother of all tapes” discussion of GMA and Garci rigging the elections. Then GMA admitted that she was the one on tape and say “sorry”. Even I listen to Estrada’s tape plotting a murder against GMA, I have to concieve the main essense of the case that connects to the destabilization of the Philippines. Singsong, can do anything he wanted but he had to connect the dots that points to the real culprits to the present crises of the country. Estrada’s tape would be just like any conversation planning to harm GMA but had not taken actions to murder her. As we all can see GMA is alive and kicking. :)

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floyd

July 15th, 2005 at 1:51 am

now they are shifting to a new court.
the advisers of Arroyo are tricky really tricky.
what they did is to question the authenticity of the motive behind the tapes and now place their bets on a new refurbished tape.
using DZRJ as a medium for it it doesnt play fair because estrada cant get them arrested for charges of sedition.
damn he cant even sue them for libel.
propaganda was used by hitler to demoralize his opponents and spread lies.
it has worked for him, and we dont know if it would work for GMA.
but one things for sure. when people hear that much against estrada and estrada is being rendered helpless he will have more supporters than opponents being the underdog that he already is.

the government oversimplified the situation resorted to badder more morbid tactics.

i think it will backfire.

their CDs will never sell or be better than the quadruple platinum sales of GMA and her hello garci tapes and ringtones hehehe

more power!

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username

July 15th, 2005 at 2:32 am

bakit wala na sa DNS ang quezon.ph ???? nakalimutan ba ni MLQ3 magbayad nang monthly nya? or binura ni Disini ang domain name nya sa nameserver nila?

Ganda talaga novela nila GMA meron nanaman bagong twist… pareho nang studio ang gumawa nang CD na ito at ung kay Sec Bunye kasi napakatanga parin at napaka obvious na ung last section ay patong patong lang as in HELLLO! nilagyan nyo man lang sana nang konting noise para convincing!

Dinagdagan lang nila ang pwede maisama sa impeachment case laban kay GMA. Maganda yan para sa bayan.

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jt2k6

July 15th, 2005 at 2:35 am

Another wiretapped conversation? More comedy act from this Zarzuela! Next scene please.

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jonathan

July 15th, 2005 at 3:05 am

the main issue here now is the WHOLE TRUTH. so please dear blogger dont dismiss this is as a muddling issue. sinimulan ninyo tatapusin natin. walang sinasanto. walang kulang walang dagdag. less than that is advancement of an ulterior motive na.

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Chihiro

July 15th, 2005 at 3:15 am

jonathan: pakinggan mo yung tapes ni Chavit na “authentic” daw and compare it with Toting Bawi’s “authentic” Ruado tape wherein Toting insisted that GMA was indeed talking to a “Gary” and it was not “Garci” but Bong “Gary” Ruado.

Then compare it with the Paguia tape and the 3 hour tape from the PCIJ.

You said you wanted the TRUTH right?

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username

July 15th, 2005 at 3:23 am

ang KATOTOHANAN dito ay ang MALACANANG ay gumagawa nang illegal.

Nakakatakot na ito kasi lahat pala nang kalaban sa pulitika ay nakawiretap…

tsk.. tsk.. tsk..

at sana naman ung magsasabi na hindi malacanang me kagagawan nito (wiretapping) eh magisip isip naman…

dami nang karapatan ang nilabag nang pamahalaang ito…

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Xiarine

July 15th, 2005 at 3:35 am

Whatever happened to the country that I truly love? Philippine politics is like a circus…Ano ba ang gusto nilang mangyari sa bansa natin? Pulutin tayo sa kangkungan? Kaya naman marami ang naghihirap dahil puro sakim at sugapa sa kapangyarihan ang mga nasa gobyerno!!! Puro na lang para sa kanila ang ginagawa nila!!! Hoy mahiya naman kayo sa mga balat nyo!!!!

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jonathan

July 15th, 2005 at 4:06 am

dont be naive guys there are dozens of tapes out there. what i want like everybody else is the mother of all tapes, not snippets of it.

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Chihiro

July 15th, 2005 at 4:59 am

^ yeah. I want to hear that mother of tapes too….kung intact pa at di pa nabubura ng mga kulugo ni GMA sa ISAFP.

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tobebs

July 15th, 2005 at 7:19 am

It seems malacanang is quiet about King Chavit Singsong’s tapes. I think they’re playing it safe this time baka MAKURYENTE nga naman uli.

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juanbagwis

July 15th, 2005 at 7:22 am

I have doubts if Ong is still alive especially when Chavit said yesterday that his remix cd is part of Ong’s mother of all tapes. Kahit malayo ako sa radyo napakalinaw nung huling part kumpara sa conversation ni Nazareno at Estrada. namumula na naman ang mga hasang ng mga pro-gma, alam nilang peke ito pero pinagpipilitan na totoo daw

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Pinoy OFW

July 15th, 2005 at 7:51 am

KINAKABAHAN NA YAN SI CHAVIT,kasi malapit lapit nang matapos ang JUETENG pag napaalis si GMA.
bat nga ba di nakasuhan yan nang JUETENG,considering confessed JUETENG operator sya during ERAP’s trial……

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gangster_roger

July 15th, 2005 at 7:57 am

Is it real? Is it authentic?

Its only logical that there would be wiretapped material from everybody. Once some people get the equipment we can expect more wiretaps.

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emer

July 15th, 2005 at 7:59 am

sa aking sariling opinion parang dinoktor lang talaga yung usapan daw ni erap at yung isang hinde kilalang lalaki tungkol na pumayag daw si ping,, ang liwanag ng boses at yung background clear na clear, ay naku ano ba yan!!! gagawa lang ng kasinungalingan e hinde pa maayos,, palpak ang pagkakagawa. kanino bang studio ginawa nun kina rj jacinto.. e di ba bayaw ni mike arroyo si RJ ( yun katabi ni chavit sa presscon) kapatid ni mike arroyo yung asawa ni RJ… ang masasabi ko lang kay chavit,, hoy chavit mukhang kang engot sa ginwa mo.. di man lang nyo inayos para kapanipaniwala…gawa nalang ulit kayo ng ibang CD yung kapanipaniwala naman plzzzzzzzzzzz lang

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gangster_roger

July 15th, 2005 at 8:00 am

I think I have to look for gsm scramblers. I have nothing to hide but i dont want people to “put words in my mouth”.

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gangster_roger

July 15th, 2005 at 8:01 am

Ok to’. This is the ultimate in “transaprency”

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gangster_roger

July 15th, 2005 at 8:03 am

We really need all of the recordings. wiretapped or not. somebody got a lot of them and they are keeping it to themselves. If somebody knows anything about it just post it on this blog.

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gangster_roger

July 15th, 2005 at 8:07 am

actually it logical for a sympathetic engineer in one of the telcos to listen in to interesting people. what if the engineer is an Erap loyalist then in his frustration he will be willing to put his job and his employer at risk. I have an idea how the perceived injustices against Erap enrages a “loyalist”. my neighbour is one and its incredible how agitated he can get. and sometimes thats all he thinks about for several days. its worrisome because my mother is a vocal GMA supporter.

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Chihiro

July 15th, 2005 at 8:09 am

emer: ganyan din yung binida ni Bunye dati na “orig” na tape. pakinggan mo. makukuha mo yun dito sa PCIJ.

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username

July 15th, 2005 at 8:11 am

eto pa pinalitan na nang mas murang ticket at kahit malugi ang MRT para lang mawala ang mukha ni erap sa MRT ticket.

totoo nga ang sinabi nang mga 10 cabinet members na ginagawa lahat nang malacanang para lang mabuhay kahit ito ay sa kalulugi na nang gobyerno.

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jonathan

July 15th, 2005 at 8:11 am

chihiro, im glad you invited me to listen to those tapes. but let me ask you. do you have training in audio/voice analysis? i must admit i don’t. have you heard the song ‘Unforgettable” where Nat King Cole and her daughter Natalie Cole did a duet? To an untrained mind that duet was authentic.But now we know that the audio was spliced. In other words whatever i say does not have any bearing at all in any court of law. You know why not? Because i am not an EXPERT. To listen to those tapes and form an opinion, that is your right. To form a judgment on a person without expert opinion, that is another matter. Sadly, that’s what we have become. Metro Manila has become a city of fifteen million AUDIO/VIDEO EXPERT WANNABES when for most of these people their closest brush with the most sophisticated audio machine is probably their local videoke bar. That’s why, Chihiro, back to your invitation, i will listen to those tapes. But before i start marching in the streets and shouting RESIGN, i will always bear this in mind: I DON’T KNOW SHIT!!

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gangster_roger

July 15th, 2005 at 8:13 am

Appealing to sense of decency never works. ITs only threats of violence or violence that will get their attention.

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Chihiro

July 15th, 2005 at 8:24 am

jonathan: you don’t need to BE an expert. maririnig mo naman yung consistency sa mga recordings and use your common sense. di ka ba nagtataka na tila yata PAREHAS ang consistency ng “orig” ni Bunye at ng tape ni Chavit? recall that Bunye had INSISTED that GMA NEVER spoke to Garci (samantalang inamin na ni GMA na nakipag-usap sya). And that instead, she spoke with GARY, a supposed member of her campaign team. At isa pa ginawa nilang EKSAKTO yung mga sinabi nitong GARY na ito sa mga sinabi ni Garci dun sa 3-hour tape and dun sa Paguia tape! Di man lang ginawan ng bagong imbento.

you do not need to be an expert to look for the truth and to know when it is there.

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juanbagwis

July 15th, 2005 at 8:41 am

Chavit’s tape should be labeled the NORTH DIVERSION TAPE. Si RJ Jacinto ng Radyo Bandido gusto na naman sigurong makabehest loan. Pakisingil nga po itong si RJ ng mga inutang nya sa gobyerno ng milyon milyon para sa mga negosyo nya na laging nalulugi

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Darren

July 15th, 2005 at 8:41 am

Bakit ba ang daming nagsasabing “there are dozens of version of the Hello Graci tape”? Para sakin naman dalawa lang ang versions e.. Ung kay Ong and Paguia kasi diba pareho lang yun? Excerpt lang nung kay Ong yung kay Paguia? Pero pareho naman ng contents.. Yung second version ay yung kay Bunye na obviously fabricated.

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tobebs

July 15th, 2005 at 8:51 am

Sa dinamidami ng mga naglalabasang tapes ngayon di na natin alam kung alin ang original o alin ang naunang nai-tape. I think these developments would pose a challenge to those audio tape manufacturers to produce audio tapes or CD’s that would record the time and date of audio recordings just like in video recordings.

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Partisanong Lagalag

July 15th, 2005 at 9:06 am

Nagpapanik na si Chavit. Alam nyang reresbakan sya ng mga dati nyang kakosa kapag napataob si GMA. Kaya lahat ng milagrong pwedeng gawin para masalba lang si GMA gagawin ni Chavit.

At sinong gumawa ng CD ni Chavit? wala nang iba kundi yung katabi nya sa presscon -si RJ. Siempre sa studio ni RJ niluto ang mga CD’ng yan. Halata naman masyado na dinuktor lang yung kausap kuno ni ERAP ang isang di kilalang lalaki. Yung lalaki lang ang ang may story line habang si Erap puro Oo, Ah, at Ok lang ang sagot. Napakalinaw pa nang recording nung lalaki parang nakamicrophone lang at yung script na gamit nya (i.e. transitional government, etc.) ay mga terminong sa kasagsagan lang ng protesta laban kay GMA tumampok.Kulang na lang lagyan ni RJ ng background na nagigitara siya. Mas kikita pa sana yang CD’ng yan.

Kunsabagay para sa mga maka-GMA, si Chavit ay itinuturing nila na isang bayani. Kundi dahil sa kanyang pagpiyok dahil inonse siya nila Atong Ang at Erap sa hatian ng kita sa jueteng, hindi maluluklok sa poder si GMA.

Kung si Chavit na sagad-saring kriminal ay kinikilalang bayani ng gobyerno ni GMA, alam mo na kung anong klaseng gobyerno meron tayo ngayon.

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masha

July 15th, 2005 at 9:27 am

panggulo lang yang bagong tape. tactic yan ng mga heneral na kampon ni gma. they floated the new tape thru chavit ( who has a lot riding on gma). ayaw nilang ma associate with the tape baka mag backfire pero baka mag work rin kasi.

si chavit kasi napahiya yan dahil nabuking siya sa ruse niya na i-aambush siya ng mga tao ni erap. e talaga lang palang nag -run ng red light ang mokong.

whatever this tape is, it doesnt take away the fact that the person in malacanang right now is a cheat and doesnt deserve to be there and should resign posthaste.

GMA RESIGN!!!

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koj

July 15th, 2005 at 9:32 am

i disagree that the govt made a hero out of chavit…it’s us, pinoys (or should i say those at manila at that time) who were waiting for erap to make a blunder. the same pinoys who are trying to oust arroyo by the same method…

the only difference is that the middle class, who comprises most of those in edsa 1 and 2, aren’t buying such call yet…it might if they feel that the impeachment (the one i believe we’re leading to, because rallies won’t make gma step down) is rigged.

these new twists and turns, including chavit’s tape, whether true or not, fake or authentic would bring this nation further down…this is a lose-lose situation and we pinoys would end up as losers…

let’s get back to earth and face reality…

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indio_lawless

July 15th, 2005 at 9:50 am

Indeed, Malacanang spin-doctors and paid publicists never run-out of political gimmicks just to save the Queen.

The latest of which is putting Chavit “accusatory” antics into play.

While we, denizens, need not be experts to know the difference between Chavit’s and the gloriagate, the queen supporters posit a contrary view.

The funnier part is, they are heavily banking on the “expert witness rule” to discredit people who opines that Chavit’s tape is spurious, as if we are in a court of competent jurisdiction.

On the assumption that we are litigating this issue, then the concept of “expert witness rule” should be made clear.

Section 49, Rule 130 of the Revised Rules of Court, provides that “the opinion of a witness requiring special knowledge, skill, experience or training which he is shown to possess, may be received in evidence”. Thus, for the rule to apply the following requisites must concur: 1. The subject matter is contested and requires an expert to aid the court 2. The witness called must possess the knowledge, skill or experience needed to inform the court in the particular case under consideration 3. Expert testimony should relate to matter in issue.

Unfortunately, we are not in a court room but in a court of public opinion.

Verily, in a court of public opinion, aforesaid technicality is clearly irrelevant.

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crd_web

July 15th, 2005 at 9:56 am

I aggree @ koj, pinoy people are ending up as losers here. Especially the uneducated and the poor, but I think there is still hope as Einstein would say:

In the middle of the difficulty lies the opportunity.

I have seen my opportunities regarding our current situation and learned so much from it. I hope some people see it as I see it.

Once again,

let’s get back to earth and face reality…

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tekiboy

July 15th, 2005 at 9:56 am

hellooo..everybody..does any one here got the CD..bka pwede nyo upload link..so we can hear it..even if its look like fake..pagtyagaan narin..baka maging doble platinum pa yan..hehehe

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Garcigwen

July 15th, 2005 at 10:13 am

the chavit cd is good for one news cycle. nobody in the admin will want to push it. lalo silang mabubuking. i heard it on tv. the last tape
is obviously fake. there is no flow in the conversation.

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Chihiro

July 15th, 2005 at 10:21 am

^ gaya nung tape ni Ruado. ibinaon na nila sa limot.

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Leo

July 15th, 2005 at 10:36 am

Ang paglabas ng tape na ito na di umano ay boses daw ni erap ay isang maliwanag na indikasyon na ang mga nasa likuran GMA ay nagsisimula na sa kanilang ipakita sa sambayanan na hindi sila ganoon kadaling alisin sa kapangyarihan. Gaya na mga nauna ko ng pahayag, sila’y handang pumatay at magpakamatay huwag lamang maalis sa puwesto.. Bakit ngayon lang lumabas ang tape,,, inaayos pa ba, binubusisi pa ba? Kung si Prof. RANDY DAVID siguro ang naglabas ng tape, baka bumenta, pero si chavit kasama si RJ, ito’y isang desperadong hakbang ni Chavit para isalba ang kanyang sarili… siyempre sa dami ng kaso nya, baka hindi nya malusutan kung maaalis sa puwesto ang kanyang mga amo… Samakatwid, hindi na natin kailangan ang expert daw kuno,,, sabi ni JONATHAN,, para alamin pa kung tunay o hindi… ESEP LANG TAYO ESEP….

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jemasan

July 15th, 2005 at 10:44 am

It seems that Chavit Singson is out of his mind again,it is very clear that they want to divert the issues with this new tape, with his cohort especially RJ Jacinto of channel 29 station.Alam kong pakawala ni Gloria si Singson kaya lang parang hindi kinakagat ng tao ang bagong propaganda nila sa administrations.
Sana pag naglabas ng wire tapped material ang sipsip na kakampi ni pandak yung kapanipaniwala para hindi bumalik sa kanilang mukha ang latay.
Jesse M. Sanchez

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pags

July 15th, 2005 at 10:46 am

Dapat ay imbistigahan yong cd ni chavit para malaman ng tao na pinagloloko tayo nito. Tapos huliin itong si chavit at buhusan ng barya galing sa jueteng. Para naman mabawasan ng isang salot sa ating bayan.

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tobebs

July 15th, 2005 at 10:51 am

Parang hindi pinatulan ng Malakanyang ang tape ni Chavit pati si Gonzales parang nabigla at di alam ang isasagot sa interview sa kanya tungkol sa tape. Maingat lang sila ngayon at baka 50.000 VOLTS na naman ang tumama sa kanila.

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Leo

July 15th, 2005 at 10:52 am

Marami pang mga susunod na hakbang ang kampo ni GMA, marami pang tape na lalabas, ang susunod naman ay ang tinig ni Fernando Poe Jr. na ipinapapatay si GMA dahil sa natalo siya sa eleksiyon,,, uunahan ko na dahil doon din naman pupunta yon,,, headline!!! boses ni FPJ ipinapapatay si GMA – sa halagang 5 milyon, abangan nyo… Kapag ang mga bagay na ito ay naganap na,,, ang maglalabas naman ay si bunye dahil babawi siya sa mga kahihiyan nya…. hehehe.. sus ginoo… Nagbalik na kaya sa kampo yung 6 na batalyon na missing … hehehe… andoon na raw sabi ni kabise,, nagpapahingalay,,,, mga utoy dahan dahan,,,

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saluyot

July 15th, 2005 at 10:59 am

saan ba pwedeng madownload yung chavit tapes?

ilalagay ba ng pcij sa downloadables nila ang naturang recording?

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tungaw02071974

July 15th, 2005 at 11:03 am

Hope We can download and hear the X Tapes kumbaga the battle of wire tapes

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Bensgr8

July 15th, 2005 at 11:04 am

i hope it comes with transcript, too.

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Bensgr8

July 15th, 2005 at 11:10 am

jueteng, loteng, i think the next would be hello-teng. place your bets

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noelet

July 15th, 2005 at 11:24 am

What they want are media exposures, sensational headlines… that would for a moment divert attention. Pero it would be part of the defense once the impeachment trial kicks in as one of their delaying tactics.

Should atleast one ally of Erap should really pursue this and authenticate the tape by expert either locally or abroad. Post a technical details of it in the newspaper to convince people how cruel Malacanan’s tactic are.

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lavinia

July 15th, 2005 at 11:24 am

Wow, I didn’t realize that this wiretapping controversy was going to be better than any novel produced by Robert Ludlum or any spy thriller written by famous authors.

I’m sure the x-tapes will not be the last wiretapped CDs coming out this year. Sino kaya ang palagi nagsusupply ng tapes for administration and opposition? At bakit nila gagawin yon for both opposing camps? Anong motive? Abangan ang susunod na kabanata!

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agol_78

July 15th, 2005 at 11:32 am

ako may tape na ilalabas.

scatch tape! lagyan ko ng tape bibig ni chavit. lalo pa yata ako naasar kay chavit. halata naman pagkakagawa na doctored ang tape. tapos sa first part wala naman dayaan don. pano makadaya si nazareno naman. resulta lng ng eleksyon ang pinaguusapan tapos napunta sa assasination.

niloloko pa yata ako. sus!

kng hindi magkakasakit si tanda pano yan? marami din ayaw kay erap baka gulo na naman. ang tanga naman ng oposisyon kng ganyan ang plano.

kng elikida si GMA ok lng d ako magagalit.

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lawspeak_007

July 15th, 2005 at 11:43 am

I concur with pañerong Indio_lawless and by putting Judge Salazar’s Compendium in Evidence in “e-motion”.

With his kind permission, it can be added that even a non-expert may also give his opinion regarding a) the identity of a person when he knows said person b) the handwriting of a person when he has knowledge of the latter’s handwriting c) the mental sanity of a person with whom he is sufficiently acquainted. The witness may also testify on his impressions of the emotion, behavior, condition or appearance of a person (Section 50,Rule 130,RRC).

In simple words, the opinion of an ordinary witness may be admissible per compliance with the requisites and as long as it is relevant to the case.

I further agree with indio_lawless that in a court of public opinion, the rules of admissibility may be disregarded, but a caveat : common sense is not that always “common” just like what some of gloria lackeys do : the boorish gonzales, compounded by another round of lies courtesy of chavit singson.

Which again bring us back to the question asked by Atty. Raul Pangalangan : Whether GMA is prepared to give the law the benefit of justice.

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chac

July 15th, 2005 at 12:01 pm

It’s a desperate move for the Malacanang to field in Chavit Singson to do another heroic instance just to save their last breath.Nobody wanted to earn the karma of it…not even mike defensor kaso wala ng maniniwala pa sa inyo…iba yung pinaka-original wiretapped tape kaya di nyo na kayang burahin yun sa utak ng mga tao kahit ilan pang pirated tapes ang ilabas nyo. It only shows kahit di aminin ni Mike Defensor na totoong nandaya si Arroyo. Huh! grabe naman talaga ang katinuan nyo dyan sa Malacanang at tinalo nyo pa si Lucifer sa kademonyohan sa pagbali-baligtad ng katotohanan.

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jjc1384

July 15th, 2005 at 12:10 pm

Comparing yung last part ng X-tape pati yung part ng “yung dagdag, yung dagdag” ni GMA at Garci, halatang PEKE yung sa X-tape…wala man lang background…parang recorded sa studio! Halatang fake….Chavit, sana di mo nalang nilabas….lalo to makakasira sa inyo…..wawa ka naman! Sira na talaga kredibilidad mo! Mag-sama nalang kayo ng kabit mo…..Ang kabit ni chavit ay nanggaling sa isang sikat na pamilya mula sa General Santos City…”T” and start ng family name ng kabit niya……

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Chihiro

July 15th, 2005 at 12:14 pm

engot si Chavit. pero wais si Ermita – dumistansya agad.

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The Pageman

July 15th, 2005 at 1:02 pm

I would like to re-echo Chihiro’s sentiments. Is there no copy of the tracks? Let the Filipino decide!

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LadyL

July 15th, 2005 at 1:06 pm

I only saw the news on TV here in L.A today courtesy of ABS-CBN. The whole thing is very comical to me. He is so pathetic. Desperate people do desperate things you know.

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tobebs

July 15th, 2005 at 1:15 pm

One point Chavit wants to emphasize regarding the X-tape is that GMA won in Mindanao. Yes I agree with Chavit that GMA has won the presidential election in Mindanao because of “yung dagdag, yung dagdag”.

CHAVIT’S X-TAPE A FLAK! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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jonathan

July 15th, 2005 at 1:31 pm

lawless said.”Unfortunately, we are not in a court room but in a court of public opinion.
Verily, in a court of public opinion, aforesaid technicality is clearly irrelevant.”
Look, expert opinion is supposed to give the parties an objective and scientific way to solve disputes. Don’t dismiss it as mere technicality because these tapes are being used to fan mob rule. What if in the end, the tapes are found to have been dubbed, spliced, and edited just to suit the evil malfeasance of a certain group? Who will pay for the billions of dollars worth of damages that has been done to our economy?
Unfortunately, too, your way is not the way civilized socities are governed.

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pingkian

July 15th, 2005 at 2:24 pm

There is no doubt in my mind that the x-tape of chavit is spliced, though i agree that the said tape should be investigated and authenticated by a credible audio experts. I heard that senators jinggoy, loi and lacson, are agreeable to have the said tape be authenticated. They are even wiling to resign if the said tape were proven to be authentic and not spliced.
The x-tape only reinforced the belief that the “hello garci tape” is genuine. I congratulate Cong. Cayetano, Cong. Villañueva and the rest of the congressmen and women who accepted the challenge of Sec. Defensor to resign if the hello garci tape is proven to fake. I hope GMA will also resign if the hello gaci tape is authentic.

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johnmarzan

July 15th, 2005 at 2:29 pm

It’s interesting that the mainstream media had no problems playing the “wiretapped” chavit tape, even though chavit claims that he has not authenticated the tape yet. Ipinarinig yung tape sa GMA7 kahapon.

But pagdating naman sa Gloriagate tape, ayaw o reluctant ang mainstream media na i-play ito — making excuses re the tapes being wiretapped and “not verified” by experts.

Why the double standard, Mainstream media?

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masha

July 15th, 2005 at 2:34 pm

sagot: envelopmental journalism aka atm journalism

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liyam

July 15th, 2005 at 2:38 pm

eh ang kaya lang naman gawin ni sec. defensor eh manindak, siya kaya isalang din nya sarili nya na pag totoo yung tape eh magresign din siya kasama ng mga arroyo’s?

i havent heard of the x-tape, any links that i can download to verify how authentic it is? feeling ko kse pinagpachi pachi lang yan na mga boses sa radyo, o di kaya sa mga movies ni erap noon. hehe.

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pingkian

July 15th, 2005 at 2:43 pm

I agree with you johnmarzan. I’ve been monitoring radio and tv stations and even the broadsheets. In fact, GMA apologist is dominating the air waves. Of course, the mainstream media do some reportorial, editorial and critical commentaries on GMA, but only to have a semblance of credibility. Buti na lang may pcij blog. Thanks to pcij.

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Alecks Pabico

July 15th, 2005 at 2:46 pm

As soon as we get hold of a copy, we will be making the audio file of Chavit’s “X-Tapes” available for download on our blog.

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crd_web

July 15th, 2005 at 2:49 pm

ok that’s great, I am eagerly waiting for the tape, rumors said there are some songs of RJ and the Riots included.

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chac

July 15th, 2005 at 2:54 pm

Yun din ang tanong ko sa sarili ko…why? bakit ang daling pnadinig sa mga tao sa TV news ang tape na galing ke Chavit gayung yung hello garci tape ay inabot pa ng ilang linggo at katakot takot na debate sa kongreso bago bigyan ng permiso na iparinig? dahil ba ang nakaupo ang me pakana at di ang opposisyon? Bakit walang memo na pinalabas ang National Telecommunication para ipagbawal ang pagpaparinig ng tape sa mga tao? Me naamoy akong mabaho ha!

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indio_lawless

July 15th, 2005 at 3:12 pm

Jonathan, thank you for taking time to comment on my earlier post
but if you have read it finely, the CLEAR DISTINCTION between a COURT ROOM and the COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION will not escape you.

For your enlightenment, the former is governed strictly by the rules of court whereas the latter, the exercise of which is protected by the organic law subject to a reasonable regulation of the government.

In layman’s word, all I am saying is: technical rules applies where it should be applied. However, in arena of opinion, such as this blog, your opinion is as good as other’s opinion. Respect is the keyword not the rules of admissibility.

As to your concern who will be ultimately culpable for the damages done, the Philippine legal system provides for a proper forum and venue for that. Consult a lawyer of your choice to discuss a prospective civil suit for that particular matter.

I’m equally amused when you finally remarked, “Unfortunately, too, your way is not the way civilized socities (sic) are governed. ” Tell us then YOUR WAY, hoping that will IT make us all CIVILIZED.

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Chihiro

July 15th, 2005 at 3:16 pm

Haay Supreme Court….

Do you see what you have done? If you had just abided by the Constitution in 2001 hindi sana mangyayari ang mga ito ngayon. We would still have the Constitution to rely on and we would still have respect and fear for the law.

Ngayon, wala na. Dahil kayong mga mahistrado na sumumpang ipagtatanggol ang Saligang Batas ay ang namuno sa pagsira dito.

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tonyvn

July 15th, 2005 at 3:28 pm

Hahaha!!!! Funny baga!! ano ba yan? Ayaw talagang tumigil ang mga salot na opisyales ng pinakamagaling nating gobyerno ng mga Mandurugas, Mandarambong, Mambubusabos, Magnanakaw, Mamamatay Tao at higit sa lahat Mandaraya!!!!! Hindi na ba talaga titigil ang mga kampon ni Satanas sa ating bayan!

Katakataka! ang mga naglalabasan na issue sa diyaryo, tv at radio para lang maibaling ang public sa mainit na isyu ng ” 2J (Jueteng at Jose Pidal)at GMA-Garci tape”. Pilit na pinapatay ang totoong isyu!… akala nila ay mga tanga at bobo ang lahat ng tao. Sino ang mga “tanga at mga bobo” na lumalabas, eh di silang mga nasa administrasyon dahil kahit sarili nila niloloko!… Mag-isip-isip naman kayo! Sino ba ang maniniwala kay Singson ngayon kundi ang mga kampon ni GMA na diehard at mga Obispong kakampi niya!…Pag bagsak ni GMA ay magharakiri na si Chavit!… Sino ang sasama sa kanya sa paghiwalay ng mga Ilocanos sa Pinas!… hahaha! ikaw na lang mag-isa mo ano? di naman tanga at bobo ang lahat ng Ilocano? mag-isa ka na lang! Kinamumuhian ka ng iyong mga kababayang Ilocanos!… Power greedy!…

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ef612

July 15th, 2005 at 3:36 pm

Hay naku, si Chavit humahabol ng tabla! Para bang, ” O iyan ha, meron din kayong wiretapped kaya tabla na tayo. Kaya tumigil na kayo.” Siguro nataranta siya sa dami ng taong dumalo sa Makati. Pagnatanggal kasi amo niyang si Gloria, PATAY KANG BATA KA si Chavit. Kaya lahat gagawin para manatili sa pwesto.

Mr. Chavit, tell it to the marines.

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rich___ong

July 15th, 2005 at 3:43 pm

It’s PEOPLE’s money again being used to SAVE the QUEEN.
Its easy to figure out why we have all these BUDGET DEFICITS and CREDIT DOWNGRADES. I think S&P and Fitch knew that public money will be wasted to prop up GLoria. I think we should stop paying taxes. They can’t put us all in MUNTINLUPA

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ginnylimbo

July 15th, 2005 at 4:05 pm

hey, chavit! that’s really cheap! bad taste… if its really authentic as you claim it is, why only now? wala ka na ba talagang magawa sa buhay? you already have plenty of money (unfortunately, you cant buy your own salvation in heaven), enough!
i agree with you rich_ong, its our (taxpayer’s) money…if the admin is claiming that the people from anti-gma rally last were paid, so is tomorrow’s pro-gma rally… dont argue anybody coz its true! most govt employees are offered with P150 plus a t-shirt… the hell with the people from gma’s camp! they’re wasting our money just to save gma’s presidency.. i just hope nature will take its course and bring you back to your creators! enough is enough!

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noelet

July 15th, 2005 at 4:29 pm

This is regarding the House minority’s preparation for impeachment:

“Another office will also be put up for the official legal team and volunteer lawyers, who will be assisting in the impeachment process.

“Suplico said they would temporarily be using the Office of the Minority in the House of Representatives for their meetings.”

A word of warning… be careful your meeting room might be bugged or wiretapped.

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jonathan

July 15th, 2005 at 4:30 pm

indio_lawless,
i have no quarrel with you regarding the rules in the court of public opinion. all i am saying is that although it is not governed by the rules of the court, it would be prudent for an individual to subject his judgment on a certain matter through thorough objective analysis. Expert opinion although not a requirement is a prudent individuals way of arriving at a conclusion. What i am afraid of is the arrival of a conclusion based on a faulty premise. Thank you for your lawyerly advice on where to seek redress for those damages. unfortunately for me, i grieve on those damages.

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longbow2

July 15th, 2005 at 4:40 pm

i wouldnt be surprised is somebody comes out of the blue and have an affidavit signed na sya yung kausap ni erap sa tapes na ipabagsak si gam at gamitin sa tanda!! Just like Bong Rualo

If meron, para patunayan true, dapat mag lie detector test sya in front of 3rd party such as pare para magkaalaman

Which makes me wonder, it totoo yung tape, di ibig sabihin pumayag si TANDA (Former Pres FVR) na magpagamit na ibagsak si GMA at mag lead ng transition , bago ipapatumba ni erapa at ping!

Humm???? they need movie directors to make the story at least credible naman….

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timawang_batas

July 15th, 2005 at 4:49 pm

Dito ka bibilib kay Erap,
Pagtinanong kung s’ya ang boses sa tape
sagot agad immediately.
Kung hindi, di hindi.
Pagpinaratangan ka ba naman ng mali
then you have the right to correct it.
Otherwise, one’s papel in life
will result to estoppel na nakakagigil.

Unlike gloria, nagsinungaling muna
pagkatapos she will apologise to all
including the masa
enough said she said otherwise
she could set again the record straight

Malacanang is consolidating their ranks
including their respective banks.
Loyalty check para sa lahat na alipores
including all cabinet secretaries
Aba, parang Star Circle Quest
it’s either you are IN or OUT pala,
Tuloy,nakaka-bwesit!

Bukas,dapat may lakad kami ng mahal kong lola,
pero tumawag at nagpa-kansela.
sayang daw ang Php 2,000 na
ipamimigay ni Lito Atienza
na may kasamang T-shirt pa.

Okey talaga si Mayor, basta kay gloria
maski pundo ng
Clean and Green gagamitin
para laging labing-labing.

Bukas din pala, ninong kong pulis,
nagpapasabi ng tsismis
wala daw red alert, and of course, this is not ma-init
Sa pro-gloria rally sa Luneta,
ang mga binayarang tao ay mag-mi-meet!

Ang Intelligence nga naman po ano?

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soledad t. tubay

July 15th, 2005 at 4:54 pm

Ang masasabi ko lang, ang pagsisnungaling walang ibinubungang mabuti. Pagdating ng oras, katulad ng Greek tragedy, ang tragic hero, will meet his or her doom. Kung gaano kataas ang lipad siyang lakas ng lagapak. It’s seems like all these politicians, particularly the arrogant allies of the present dispensation, have not learned their lessons. Or probably they did not read any of these tragedies in their literature classes.

I likewise wonder why GMA is said to be intelligent when right now she is not demonstrating such brilliance that she is supoposed to have. Or does power not only corrup but also renders one to be deaf and blind. ‘Di naririnig ang totoong sinsabi ng tapes ni Paguia at ‘di nakikita ang totoong resulta ng mga surveys at bilang ng mga dissatisfied sa mga nangyayari.

Our only saving grace as a people are the young leaders who are brave enough to show the trapos what it takes to be a real statesman. Hurrah to Allan Peter Cayetano, Chiz Escudero and their fellows who really should never get tired in digging into the truth. You are these country’s fair hope.

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blue3

July 15th, 2005 at 5:06 pm

mag-reresign ang mga estrada senators kapag napatunayang authentic yung tape ni chavit? sana nga authentic para mabawasan na ng clowns and senado.

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indio_lawless

July 15th, 2005 at 5:07 pm

I commensurate with your plight, jonathan.

I have sustained damages too if not losses.

If not for THE FIRM, my modest office could have a good chance of surviving at this trying times.

Thanks but no thanks to gloria,

But for now life under the mango tree thrives on

until the day of her resignation.

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claymore

July 15th, 2005 at 6:16 pm

WALANG KUMAGAT…….tsk…tsk….tsk…

Dahil ang tao “gutom”, hindi “tanga”…..malayo ang sikmura sa utak…..
Iyan ang napapala ng mga tao’ng “napakagagaling”, “matatalino”, at mataas daw ang pinag-aralan….
Gasgas na ang kuntador ng utak, di na alam ang gagawin…
Dito nga sa “looban”, natawa anak ni aling tacing….walong taon lang ang bata….. dahil kung si erap daw iyon di tatawagin “pandak” si ….,matangkad pa daw iyon…”unano” daw ang itatawag para walang “dagdag”…walang”dagdag”

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el_aStiG

July 15th, 2005 at 7:06 pm

nakakatawa!
kasi pag labas ng “hello garci” tape na yan, usap usapan d2 sa workplace ko, -“nakup, delikado gloria nito, tiyak, me mga plano na namang diversion tong lintek na malacanang…”

“…baka me bomba na naman. o, kaya, pang kontra sa tape na yan.”
BOOM! ayun, tumama!sakto! galing naman ng gobyernong eto! ngayun, si chavit, sino pa uli kaya ang magsilabasan? #&%!

huh, lurker lng ako d2, nagbabasa lng, and bloggers are right. nakakaawa ang pilipinas dahil sa mga namomonu d2.

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soledad t. tubay

July 15th, 2005 at 7:23 pm

According to GMA this is not a popularity contest. Owww?!!! Kaya pala dahil nag-hit ang tape na Hello, Garci, naglabas naman ng ibang tape ang kalabang recording studio. Kaso, di magaling yung singer at pangit yung composition. Launching pa lang nilangaw na (naalala ko tuloy yung premiere night ng isang pelikula sa isang bayang wala namang sinehan… sino kayang pilantropong producer ang magtatapon ng salapi para lamang makapanood ng isang makabuluhang pelikula ang mga mamayang walang pera?).
At… dahil flop daw ang July 13 fans day ng opposition for Ms. Susan Roces, may fans day din sa Luneta sa July ano ba yun? Di nga popularity contest.

Mrs. Arroyo, please lang. Ang hirap para sa mga teachers na turuan ng moral values ang mga estudyante kung katulad po ninyo ang leader na kilala nila. Paano ko sasabihin, “NO CHEATING?”

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noelet

July 15th, 2005 at 9:17 pm

(http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index.php?index=1&story_id=43645)

THE “WEAPON” that the opposition has been using to unseat President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo has backfired on them, a Malacañang official said Friday.

Tiglao said it was the opposition that first introduced an “immoral weapon” by way of wiretapped tapes, which recorded Ms Arroyo’s conversations with an election official during the canvassing of votes in the 2004 election.

“Some other people who do not necessarily support the President but has something against [former president Joseph] Estrada will surely make moves using their own weapon. They will use the same dirty tactics being used by the opposition,” Tiglao said.

“This is not a monolithic administration where everything is controlled,” Tiglao said, adding that speculations that the Palace had a hand in the release of the tapes by Singson were “hogwash.”

“Malacañang or any government official in the entire executive department do not have anything to do with those alleged tapes,” Tiglao said.

End of excerpt.

Oh my God!

Yesterday Malacanan said they would reserve their comment after they hear the contents of the tape.

Now look at that statement. Its really an appeal to take all this wiretap evidence as immoral weapons? Talk about resigning ALL the cabinet where in fact Gloria only change faces those who have been prominently screwed trying to defend the president.

Instead of Bunye… its now Tiglao. And with Tiglao they changed strategy and put to Singson the responsibility of countering the tapes. Malacanan is so fearful of a repeat backfire with Bunye. Now the plot is so thick to put to the opposition the wrong merits of back-firing. So as to distance Malacanan from the shameful example of what a very conspired and eagerly so dirty retaliation made by them through Bunye.

SHAMEFUL, MR. TIGLAO.

SHAMEFUL, MR. BUNYE.

SHAMEFUL, MRS. ARROYO.

For even as you deny involvement, the people can see a lie through the eyes of the speaker. And be prepared to accept the next trust rating survey Mrs. president.

SO SHAMEFUL. MALACANAN OPERATES ON SHAMEFUL AND IMMORAL ACTS.

Do not hide you dirty stuff with your diplomatic manner, Mr. Tiglao. For you are now here ONLY because Mr. Bunye failed.

Or Mr. Bunye has been a victim of strategy that never really his.

And it points to ONLY ONE person — THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES. A very shamefull presidency.

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noelet

July 15th, 2005 at 9:22 pm

I really wanted to call Mrs. Arroyo the “Weak Republic” president. But that seem not enough.

SHAMEFUL.

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el_aStiG

July 15th, 2005 at 9:38 pm

well, let’s look ahead on our school values;

1. “Cheat, just don’t get caught!”
2. “If caught, simply say, I’m sorry!”

GMA’s problem – her head is full of lice, scientifically known as – “helogarcidayamu eleksyonis”.

huh, in election time, they’v shoutd, “VOTE WISELY!”
yun pala, it’s that easy to maneuvr the thing that made us all here very equal! ang boto natin. uhg!

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el_aStiG

July 15th, 2005 at 9:42 pm

from noelet: SO SHAMEFUL. MALACANAN OPERATES ON SHAMEFUL AND IMMORAL ACTS.

*
well said.
shameful. very shameful.

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lethal_pointofview

July 16th, 2005 at 5:15 am

Wake up call to all mobile phone subscribers…

WE ARE NOT SAFE…OUR PRIVACY IS IN DEEP DANGER…

Appeal to the Masses…

Let us all stop using Cellular Phones for 1 month..Let’s try who’s losing their business…(just an experiment)

SMART,GLOBE, and SUN CELLULAR might be cashing in from our conversations(they might allow some 3rd party company’s and detective investigators to prey on our privacy…..this is hilarious…SENATE should investigate this companies…

Malacañang and other allies of Manang GLO are very desperate to cover up their deeds…If Gloria will be pulled out in her rented palace…there will be an over haul of dark deeds in Malacañang..dark ghost and spirits will be swift away…. Why is it that everyone is afraid of Ramos, Chavit..and other sick people in power(on and off)…

I am dissappointed about some local newspaper who are bayaran…”As if they are non partisan…fearless…and the truth shall…when in fact…they all have some sorta paid advertisement and paid news…with all the faces and pictures in focus…

I am appealing to PCIJ if they could make a report about the ownership of some tabloids and bigtime newsmakers in broadsheet as well…if who owns this sheets…coz i find it bias to some articles that i’m reading…

My analysis…I dont want to read any newspapers…

the likes of Tigulang na Chavit…make your own script…dont copy a script… as if someone give the CD to you..Be UNIQUE…

To RJ Jacinto..

get real…

Did Gloria and Mike ask your assistance…no wonder you didnt won in any public office candidacy…because you are Not REAL…

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masha

July 16th, 2005 at 5:33 am

hindi uubra ang boycott ng cell companies. naka kontrata ang marami. kapag di nila ginamit ang alloted minutes/text, matutuwa pa ng cell companies kasi kumikita sila kahit walang serbisyong binibigay.

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tobebs

July 16th, 2005 at 7:34 am

Sa dinamidami nating mga cellphone subcribers why not form a COOPERATIVE and establish our own Cellphone company just like ELECTRIC COOPERATIVES. Anybody here who is an expert in Cooperatives if my suggestion is possible?

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CGBacani

July 16th, 2005 at 1:07 pm

Akala ni GMA, Bunye, Tiglao, Defensor (at mga alipores nila), mga bobo ang mga pinoy na katulad nila.

Alam na natin kung sino ang gumawa ng panloloko sa elelction and nowhere can we say that the opposition is in a position to cheat in the elections. The one who controls the machinery of cheating — Comelec, Namfrel and military is the government. Sinama ko dito ang Namfrel dahil talaga naman ayaw nilang manalo si FPJ dahil they are not sure of FPJ economic program. At least with GMA, alam nila na its business as usual for the business elite.

Sabi nila galing daw sa oposisyon ang wiretapping at kesyo gawa daw ni Ping Lacson. With the recent wiretapping of Erap, would that mean that Ping Lacson will allow the release of a wiretapping conversation where his name is mentioned as one of who are planning for an assassination of GMA and Ramos? Masyado naman crudo ang akusasyon na ito.

The fact is, the problem of GMA is she is self-destruction. Ang mga pinaggagawa niyang katarantaduhan during the elections at mga kapalpakan nina Bunye at mga alipores niya ay bumabalandra sa kanila.

Pwede ba galingan naman ninyo gumawa ng script!!!

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lavinia

July 16th, 2005 at 1:23 pm

Akala nang opposition at militanteng grupo (at mga alipores nila), mga bobo ang mga pinoy na katulad nila. Satsat nang satsat sila …wala naman silang nagawang tama para sa bansa….puro na lang rallies, hanap ng mali o contobersiya, reklamo at investigation. In fact, sila ang malaking dahilan na bagsak ang ating ekonomiya.

The fact is, the problem with the opposition is they are self-destructive. Ang mga pinaggagawa nilang katarantaduhan ngayon at mga kapalpakan ni Aquilino Pimentel at mga alipores niya ay bumabalandra sa kanila.

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enjeng wapeng

July 16th, 2005 at 1:45 pm

Lavinia my dear! You’re such a …. forget it! Hindi nga bobo ang mga pinoy kaya nagrereact sa ginawa ni Gloria eh… Ikaw hahayaan mo bang nakawan ng anumang gamit mo gayung alam mo kung sino ang magnanakaw? I’ just asking my dear… and please don’t ever say that mga bobo pinoy… ask yourself first before you make judgement to others… ok…

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masha

July 16th, 2005 at 1:50 pm

naku! paglilihis lang yan sa isyu. kailangan natin laging ibalik sa tapes. nahuling nandaya si gma kaya kailangan na siyang mag resign. kung anu-anong palabok ang idinadagdag ng mga aso ni gloria para guluhin ang usapan at mawala ang focus sa pandarayang ginawa niya at sa pagkabiglang yaman ng mga kaanak niya (mikey a 50K in 1992 to 76M in 2005; iggy arroyo from 19K Income tax paid to 300M net worth).

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enjeng wapeng

July 16th, 2005 at 2:00 pm

I don’t consider myself as one of those who believes in nothing! Everytime Mrs. Pidal ooops. Arroyo pala spoke to the public she always says that It is for the sake of Filipino people that is why I have many plans to improve our economy. ” PLANS” where is the execution Mrs. Pidal, OOOPS …Mrs. Arroyo. You know I’m not fool like you so I dont want to call you as president. Why? coz since 2001, what kind of economy do we have right now. Are you economist? Ecopromise… New terminology Mrs. Pidal… ECOPROMISE KA… hindi ka economist.. pwee ka…. ANG SINUNGALING AY KALAGUYO NG MGA MAGNANAKAW…

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eyesWIDEopen

July 16th, 2005 at 2:13 pm

one more thing… CEBU leaders are planning and holding meetings to create a REPUBLIC of CEBU (and in fact a REPUBLIC of the VISAYAS) if GMA is ousted… Isn’t that inciting to sedition???

eto katotohanan lang… majority of people na nag EXODUS dito sa MANILA ay galing sa VISAYAS…

alam mo kung bakit LAVINIA????

walang trabaho sa CEBU!!! saan kaya patratrabahuin ni GARCIA at OSMENA ang mga kawawang CEBUANO???

MAG – ISIP naman sana mga lider natin sa CEBU no. intawn maluoy mo namong mga bisaya nga nianhi na lang sa MANILA kay wa trabaho sa ato!!!

yon lang yon.

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Naz

July 16th, 2005 at 2:17 pm

Lets not forget mindanao. Infatc they were the 1st once to announce an independent state of mindanao. Scary to think of it. My mind is like drawing all sortsa pictures. “Breaking news: Three new countries emerged from east-asia. Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao.” For me, thats the real destabilization. ill take it as threats.

Godbless!

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eyesWIDEopen

July 16th, 2005 at 2:19 pm

eto pa LAVINIA, kindly do youR math…

WHEN i was working in CEBU for almost the same JOB that i have now here in MANILA,,, I was only paid 2,500 gross per 15th…

now that I am here in MANILA I am now paid 10+++ net per 15th. GOOD LUCK na lang kung mobalik pa kog trabaho dinha.

My friends who are still in CEBU, kalooy pud,,, can only visit AYALA mall and SM mall per 15th… cada sueldo…

I wish you open up your eyes LAVINIA and I hope you won’t generalize all BISAYA or ALL CEBUANO with what you called… CEBUANOS love of GMA!!!

AND certainly, having joined the AYALA rally, I don’t consider myself bobo. BAGKUS i considered myself vigilant against the cheat and the gloriagate.

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penpenpen88

July 16th, 2005 at 2:31 pm

The fact is, the problem with the opposition is they are self-destructive. Ang mga pinaggagawa nilang katarantaduhan ngayon at mga kapalpakan ni Aquilino Pimentel at mga alipores niya ay bumabalandra sa kanila
I beg to disagree lavinia ang me kasalanan lahat nyan ay si gloria. The mere fact na sinalo nya ung presidency when there is this attempt by Ayala inc to oust erap (who was if i were to recall elected then by a larger margin). then but hindi nya ginawa yung sinasabi nya ngayon na follow the constitution. Ahe could have sued for calm let the impeachment continue if she was indeed for the constitution?? In fact as was said by MIguel zubirri sa NBN day one plang ni erap sa office me plano na silang i oust sya. Now, is that constitutional?? Now she hides behind the veil of the constitution she violated?? anung klaseng tao yan?????
Tungkol naman sa tapes.. anything coming from Chavit “the criminal” singson wag dapat paniwalaan.. Nakapagtataka pa nga self confessed jueteng lord yan eh. But governor pa yan ng ilocos?? dahil ba sa backing ni gloria?? Ibig bang sabihin nun eh ung dating cut ni erap binibigay na nya ke gloria?? bat po wlang nagtatanung nun?? Naka focus lang po tayo sa tapes where in fact ang daming lapses of judgement nitong presidenteng ito.. Akin lang pantay pantay lang if si erap pwedeng i oust dahil sa jueteng. si gloria pwede ring i oust dahil sa cheating for condoning subersive statements by government officials (who i doubt are really speaking for the people) who are threatening to ceceed from the republic if she is ousted (sinu ba sila??). si FVR pwedeng i oust dahil sa PPA at sa centennial expo.

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CGBacani

July 16th, 2005 at 2:48 pm

Lavinia,

You are doing exactly what this government is doing, Tit for Tat. Remember that what is happening in our country now is the handiwork of the first family. Mike and his cohorts in government and business elite. Mikey and his Uncle on jueteng issues, Gloria, Mike, Garci, Barbers and the rest of the characters in the election cheating.

The opposition is not blind not to see and hear these shenanigans and it would be foolish for all of us if we just keep quiet and allow these cabal to rule the country with impunity and total disregard of our moral values.

If you choose to be with GMA, thats fine. Be with them til eternity.

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tobebs

July 16th, 2005 at 2:50 pm

Tama ka diha eyesWIDEopen kami diri sa Mindanao nanimbawt among balahibo sa among mga lider nga bilib ra kaayo sa ilang sarili anaa si Mayor Rodrigo Duterte og Gov. Manny Pinol

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agol_78

July 16th, 2005 at 4:15 pm

not all cebuanos love GMA.

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VLage

July 16th, 2005 at 6:34 pm

Lavinia’s statement can be construed to what? It’s either he/she wants to stick what she believed in or talagang tanga. I dont know but her or his statement proves something… stupidity is common everywhere.

Usage of common sense is free and we have to exercise it once in a while.

the opposition is the opposition, we cant do anything about it.

Gloria resign.

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small_light

July 16th, 2005 at 8:15 pm

ang ganda ng mga drawing sa labels ng CDs.

Baka may comics version ng destabilization plot. Ilabas ninyo na rin.

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jun_rivero

July 17th, 2005 at 4:26 am

Yung ki Garci wiretapped conversations, ang gamit nya ay mobile phone. Alam naman natin na wireless ang ganitong klase ng telepono. Pwede ba natin itong tawagin na “wiretapping”?

Ano kaya ang appropriate word??

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Chihiro

July 17th, 2005 at 5:11 am

“wireless-tapping” o kaya “cell-tapping”

hee hee

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usda_gradeameat

July 17th, 2005 at 11:43 am

Lavinia..pwede bang paki lagay dito ang mga nagawa ng pangulo mo sa loob ng kanyang pekeng panunungkulan?…
BOTTOM LINE ….WALA!

BAWAT PANGULO NG PILIPINAS MAY NAGAWANG MABUTI KAHIT ISA..NAMUMUKOD TANGI ATANG SI GLORIA LANG HANGGANG NGAYON E WALA PANG MAGANDANG NAIDUDULOT SA PINAS…

Ika nga ni Dolphy…..Dugay na sa Malacanang…..(paki dugtungan nga mga katoto…hindi kasi ako bisaya e…)

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ben

July 18th, 2005 at 4:19 pm

hehe..galing mo tlaga chavit…And just if you think we’re that stupid to believe your so-called X-Tapes, think again…It wll NOT change the issue..your Gloria STOLE the sovereign will of the people..Its only a matter of time and you must now start rendering one of the more popular Sinatra piece..ehem..”And Now The End Is (HERE) Near and So I Face The Final Curtain…Hehe…

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LCsiao

July 18th, 2005 at 9:01 pm

Dugay na sa Malakanyang, tonto pa gihapon

(not sure if spelling is correct)

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doctorT

July 18th, 2005 at 10:53 pm

Uki ninam chavit. You are a disgrace to all Ilocanos. Dapat sayo ilagay sa Guinness Book of World Records kasama ng amo mo. THE BEST LIAR ON FACE OF THE PLANET. lahat ng lumabas sa bunganga mo kasinungalinan. Daig mo pa si satanas.

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dong

July 19th, 2005 at 5:34 am

SATANAS BA KAMO DOCTOR T ?? Aba, teka muna isama mo na rin yung kandidato ko. siya yung pinaka batang bata sa cabinet officials ni GMA.. sabi nga ni tita swanny sayang, (dahil sa galing nyang magsinungaling) may potential pa namang maging pinuno sa impyerno balang araw… hak hak hak hak.

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brulyo

July 19th, 2005 at 12:18 pm

Please tell everyone not to use Smart cellular phone anymore as manny V. Pangilinan gave a blanket authority to ISAFP to wiretap and intercept. Intelligence Service AFP is led by Brig. General. Marlou Quevedo whose cousin Atty Rogelio Quebvedo (a former agent of the Ver Led NISA) is the legal counsel of Smart. ISAFP could monitor any smart cellular phone in their offices a s they are given an E1 interface by Manuel V Pangilinan and Roger Quevedo.

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beautybar

July 22nd, 2005 at 1:12 am

KAPATID BA NI CHAVIT C GMA?
NGAYON ALAM KO NA KUNG SINO ANG NAGSISINUNGALING!

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d_entrep

July 22nd, 2005 at 11:50 am

alam ko hindi sila magkapatid,pero baka magka mag anak lang
Sila Tiglao,Si Claudio,Si Bunye parang eto yata ang magkakapatid
tama pala ang kasabihan ang Sinungaling ay kapatid ng magnanakaw…

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