July 13, 2005 · Posted in: In the News

“Yung dagdag, yung dagdag”

THE president’s voice sounded urgent. She was muttering under her breath. This morning, using sound enhancement, we listened again to the “Hello, Garci” recording and heard clearly for the first time what Mrs. Arroyo told election commissioner Virgilio Garcillano in a conversation that took place at 11:17 p.m. on May 31, 2004.

That phone call began with the President relaying to Garcillano the information that the opposition was trying to get Namfrel (National Citizens Movement for Free Elections) copies of municipal certificates of canvass. Garcillano reassured her that Namfrel is “now sympathetic to us.”

The president’s reply is garbled in the recording, as she lowered her voice and muttered. We asked a sound engineer to enhance the sound for us. We listened again and this is what we heard her telling Garcillano: “… Namfrel does not tally…pero yun nga, yung dagdag, yung dagdag (but you know, the padding, the padding).”

[PCIJ didn’t put this in earlier versions of the transcript because we were not sure until now.]

This is the only time in all the 15 phone calls that Mrs. Arroyo made to Garcillano between May 26 and June 10 that she actually used the word, dagdag.

Some of the president’s calls dealt with her anxiety about the count and her winning margin (“Will I still get more than 1 M?” she famously asked “Garci” at 9:23 a.m. on May 29).

The May 31 phone call was more direct. She actually referred to votes being padded. While she did not directly say that she had directed the padding or that she knew her votes had been padded, the purpose of the conversation appears to be to assuage her worry that the padding would be discovered if the Namfrel documents did not tally with the certificates of canvass.

Many of the presidential calls in the Hello Garci tapes dealt with Mrs. Arroyo’s concern that the count reflected in various election documents — statements of votes and certificates of canvass — did not match. She expressed this worry about the documents from Basilan, Lanao del Sur and Sulu. She was worried because the mismatch in the figures might be seen by the opposition and used by them in alleging fraud by the ruling party.

The particular conversation where she talked about dagdag seems to be along the same lines. She was fretting about the possibility that the opposition would get hold of Namfrel documents (Namfrel gets the sixth copy of the precinct-level election returns) and discover that these do not match with the certificates of canvass, which contain the aggregated counts of all the precincts in a municipality, city or province.

This is why Garcillano had to reassure the president that Namfrel is “now sympathetic to us.”

In her reply, she wanted more reassurance. “Pero yun nga, yung dagdag, yung dagdag,” she said.

When this call was made on May 31, most of the certificates of canvass had already been submitted to Congress. It would have meant trouble if the count reflected in these certificates were questioned either by Namfrel or the opposition, based on their own copies of the election returns. At this point, the president seemed to be concerned about two things: 1) that the spurious documents would be discovered; and 2) that the counts in the places where special elections were held and the counting delayed would not show her as the winner.

Special elections were conducted in late May in some towns and barangays in Lanao del Sur and  Lanao del Norte. Some of the president’s phone calls dealt with the counting in Lanao del Sur, as well as in Basilan, Sulu, Tawi-Tawi and Maguindanao.

The content of those phone calls was previously reported in this blog. Here are the transcript and enhanced audio of the “dagdag” phone call.

Conversation between Gary (V. Garcillano) and an unidentified female believed to be GMA (Pres. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo) on 31 23:17 hotel May 2004

Garcillano: Hello, ma’am.

GMA: Hello, tsaka ano yung kabila, they’re trying to get the Namfrel copies of the Municipal COCs.

Garcillano: Namfrel copies ho?

GMA: Uhm-um.

Garcillano: Ay wala naman, ok naman ang Namfrel sa atin. They are now sympathetic to us.

GMA (mumbling): Oo, oo … (garbled) …Namfrel does not tally. Pero yun nga, yung dagdag, yung dagdag.

Garcillano: Oho, we will get an advance copy ho natin kung ano hong kwan nila.

GMA: Oo, oo.

Garcillano: Sige po.

345 Responses to “Yung dagdag, yung dagdag”

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lavinia

July 13th, 2005 at 4:16 pm

There is still no incriminating evidence of outright cheating in the conversation. There was no direct order by Arroyo for Garcilliano to cheat for her. Your understanding of the conversation is still a matter of perception and heavily depends on your own biases.

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chac

July 13th, 2005 at 4:32 pm

If this is really true about the “dagdag dagdag” then everything is now clear for all to see. GMA is a fake president of our country and have no right to stay longer in the palace. She should be held liable for all the mischief she had done -spending the people’s money for the election just to turn it into a fiction story. Grabe talaga ang kapal ng mukha nya! Yan ba ang natutunan mo sa tatay mo?

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jjc1384

July 13th, 2005 at 5:04 pm

lavinia, yung conversations e nangyari habang nagbibilangan na! Malamang yung PAGPAPLANO e nangyari mga january to april pa yun! diba?

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The Gloriagate Conversations

July 13th, 2005 at 5:06 pm

Conversation No. 55

Parties to the Conversation: Gary and Unidentified Female (GMA)
Date: 5/31/2004
Time of the Conversation: 11:17:00 PM
Summary: Unidentified female (GMA) informs Gary about the Opposition’s attempts to get copies of Namfrel results of the Munic…

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chac

July 13th, 2005 at 5:14 pm

Nagbubulag bulagan na lang ang mga hindi makakita ng tamang katwiran kung bakit sa pag-wire tapped na ginawa ke garci, boses ni GMA ang isa sa mga nakalap na kausap sa kabilang linya ng mahigit sa sampung beses. Lapses of Judgement din ba talagang matawag kung mahigit sa sampung beses kang tumawag sa isang taong gayung hindi naman cya ang taong pinakapinuno ng ahensya para magtanong kung nakakasiguro ba na mahigit isang milyon ang lamang nya sa botohan? Incriminating evidence is that she called garci so many times and now would reasoned out that she just wanted to protect her votes when being the president of this country, she should be protecting the integrity of the entire election and not just her votes. HOw can you tell that what she did is above reproach and would not even elicit any foul odor?
I am just an ordinary citizen of this country na di man matalino pero nakakaintindi kung ano ang tama at mali. Wala akong pangarap sa buhay kundi ang makapamuhay ng tahimik at di hikahos sa buhay…sana naman wag naman isipin ng mga nakaupo sa gobyerno na komo maraming tao ngayon ang di na nakakapag-aral sa mahal ng tuition fees eh mga tanga na ang mga tao at di alam kung kelan na sila niloloko. MInsan mas lamang pa nga talaga ang di nakapag-aral at malakas pa ang takot sa Diyos gumawa ng kalokohan. Aral ka man kung napakaganid mo, putik ka pa rin sa mata ng Diyos.

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gangster_roger

July 13th, 2005 at 5:20 pm

Nobody can deny that she cheated. Doesnt everybody? Im sure the opposition is going to cheat too.

Well anyway. they are taking over. They will make mistakes and we will catch them.

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gangster_roger

July 13th, 2005 at 5:25 pm

im pissed that most people believe that Gloria is the root of all our countrys ills. and when she leaves we will live happily ever after. that is really stupid.

The other evil are those who lead the opposition! They will fall! Hah! THEY WILL FALL!

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kikz

July 13th, 2005 at 5:29 pm

Indeed, GMA stolen the presidency.
I just don’t know why some people remain blind and deaf of this issues.

Some of them pretend that GMA doesn’t do anything wrong.
I’d like to think that truth in this country is no longer the basis.
People often bend the basic principle of right and wrong.
The wrong to appear right and the right to make it wrong.

I am so saddened that the highest officer no less than the PRESIDENT in the land make the principle useless and futile.

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Garcigwen

July 13th, 2005 at 5:31 pm

manolo said it was a CSI.

Yup. CSI: Manila.

great work. guys.

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mi

July 13th, 2005 at 5:36 pm

When will this attitude of CRAB MENTALITY STOP?

know wonder our country never improve.

If we made a mistake then we should admit it and resign,

like the past prime minister of japan .

We the people of this country should not take side but instead we should WORK TOGETHER to stop those people from high office to made a fool of us.

for our children

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sensual

July 13th, 2005 at 6:02 pm

@ Lavinia, please read the Articles of impeachment of Richard Nixon @

http://watergate.info/impeachment/impeachment-articles.shtml

and tell me if you can see any parallels and in case you do so, are you sure that our country can go through an impeachment trial where Richard Nixon himself chose to rather resign, not only to save his own reputation/skin but to save the COUNTRY from a year-long in-fight of bloody partisanship and flying tempers?
The burglars at the Watergate hotel were caught, PGMA was caught too and now she’s got to do what a real statesman got to do, gracefully exit and RESIGN as long there is still time.
Its not about her (PGMA) anymore, its about our country and our people, who deserve a better leadership, a president that has the moral and constitutional values we all are craving for.
Why does she cling to power so badly? Why does she send out people like Sec. Defensor to defend her and to talk over the head of the people of the Philippines with such a false pride and vigor like there was no other person among us that could lead this country?
Marcos said, “I will never resign”! He did… ERAP said the same, and he did the same. Now its her term. And she will not be president of our Republic in 2010. God bless.

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gangster_roger

July 13th, 2005 at 6:18 pm

Erap was isolated. She is not. And she propped the constitution up and used it to clobber you on the head! Get a clue! Ok of course you are still reeling from the blow. Take a deep breath.

And the only way to make her go down is to show the people that the opposition are reformers. And then the people is going to drag her kicking and screaming from malacanang and hanged in one of the posts outside. maybe you can drag her dead body all over manila so the people can spit on her until nothing is left!

I doubt they can do that though. When she leaves it will be a catfight between more than three parties in a mad scramble for the presidency and all the machinery that it represents. DISGUSTING! HYPOCRITES! YOU WILL FALL!

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eyesWIDEopen

July 13th, 2005 at 6:20 pm

sensual said
@ Lavinia, please read the Articles of impeachment of Richard Nixon @

http://watergate.info/impeachment/impeachment-articles.shtml

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GURL its clear… very clear… GMA is a cheat.

buti na lang si NIXON nag resign… si GMA… GOOD LUCK na lang….

at ayon sa aking intelligence report… si LAVINIA ay nagtatrabaho for GMA.

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d3dma

July 13th, 2005 at 6:26 pm

GMA (mumbling): Oo, oo … (garbled) …Namfrel does not tally. Pero yun nga, yung dagdag, yung dagdag.

— She’ll probably claim that she was merely consulting Garci about a growth formula.

to chac:

“Lapses of Judgement din ba talagang matawag kung mahigit sa sampung beses kang tumawag…” — katangahan o kagarapalan ang tawag diyan

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gangster_roger

July 13th, 2005 at 6:30 pm

to eyeWIDEopen

Hey thats out of line! Thats below the belt! You trying to attach all the stigma of gloria to lavinia? thats low!

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gangster_roger

July 13th, 2005 at 6:33 pm

ano gagawin mo kay gloria pag hindi nagresign? wala di ba? eh ano gagawin ng mga kano kay nixon pag di nagresign? giera ang labas nun!

kung tutuusin mas assertive ang kano kaysa sa pinoy. kaya sa kanila patas ang laban dito hindi.

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gangster_roger

July 13th, 2005 at 6:35 pm

sa america ang mga politico alam ang parusa kung nagkasala sila. takot sila. dito ang mga pulitico mga hari sa sociedad!

kaya tayo banana republic dahil para sa elite tayo mga kasaggapang ginagamit! tayo naman sunod sunuran lang!

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gangster_roger

July 13th, 2005 at 6:43 pm

Crab mentality?

HEH HEH. This shows that we dont have enough power to remove an embattled president.

Ever wondered why the Americans protect the right to bear arms? Its precisely for this kind of situation.

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Garcigwen

July 13th, 2005 at 7:09 pm

the rallies will not make GMA resign.

but it will send a message to the House to conduct a credible
impeachment process.

That is the last thing GMA wants. an honest to goodness impeachment process.

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rose

July 13th, 2005 at 7:09 pm

lavina you got to be kidding , no wonder our country will go to the dogs

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Lone_Patriot

July 13th, 2005 at 7:47 pm

I have concluded that this BLOG is BIASED how can you guys call yourself a journalist if your one sided? just like those individuals with hidden “political agenda’s”… I just found out from a credible source that some of the protestors in Makati were paid by the opposition! WAKE UP Pinoys!!!! I cannot believe some of you will risk the your own country’s well being for pocket change! this is truly sad, don’t tell me the PCIJ staff if being paid by the opposition! to be fabulist..

That is all..

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noelet

July 13th, 2005 at 7:53 pm

Erap’s dilema is that the jueteng money seemed part of a very personal racket that is different from the dealings inside Malacanan. So when the jueteng scandal erupts every at his side don’t really know how to defend him. Tkae note “how to defend him…”

With the case of GMA, almost for sure her close-party, close-cabinet members, party-congressmen, partylist-affiliates knows the real score and might have been part of the cheating. As stated in the Garci tapes, even party-list is being chosen not elected.

So all party-affiliates joined forces to strongly defend GMA. Where actually they are not defending GMA but defending that the truth about the cheating from coming out in full view of the public.

Most of their ALIBIs are a single stament of “no, she did not cheat…” There was no offer to explain. The most elaborate defense is that the tapes are not strong evidence. Or that GMA never spoke of cheating. But Garcilliano demonstrated cheating.

As a president, it is enough liability that you know the crime/cheating. Don’t let us pursue to prove GMA ordered the cheating. She knows the cheating and its immoral.

The good thing is we are not the court and we can think above TECHNICALITY. That’s why we can judge Mrs. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo as a cheat.

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Lone_Patriot

July 13th, 2005 at 7:58 pm

I think we should STOP the finger pointing at once and let’s change from within ourselves, then our fellow Filipinos, an so on, we should start from the root which is every single FILIPINO, and why is FPJ’s widow making a public stint? is she trying to be a politician now?! the SAD, SAD thing is I think some people are actually are trying to convince her to run for presidency? what the hell?. Please I ask every one to educate and convince everyone you know to STOP and I mean STOP voting for celebreties Jesus Chirst!! I am so frustrated beyond words right now I just wanna Fly there right now and do something but I can’t may god bless us all filipinos…

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noelet

July 13th, 2005 at 8:00 pm

A sound of warning Garcigwen, the House don’t listen to public sentiments when you have a Malacanan taht help you earn a “dagdag” votes last election, and gives a Malacanan bonus, plus other incentives.

The majority of congressmen will only listen to the source of their wealth and that is non the less Malacanan.

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noelet

July 13th, 2005 at 8:01 pm

A point of order… is GMA a celebrity?

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Lone_Patriot

July 13th, 2005 at 8:03 pm

Are you trying to be funny? this is not the time for such emotion…

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Garcigwen

July 13th, 2005 at 8:11 pm

I have been listening to the mp3. the garbled parts I couldn’t make out.
but I used to have this program called Nero Wave Editor. It allows me to slowdown the playback of a wavefile without lowering the voice.
It came free with the Nero Cd Burner package. So all you would-be
CSI detectives. Please try it out. I’m sure a lot of you have it in your computers.

Unfortunately, that program is a freebie and mine expired. I’ve been trying to get a hold of one that works.

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claymore

July 13th, 2005 at 8:13 pm

Lone_Patriot

Huwag ganyan magparatang sa mga taong hindi sang-ayon sa iyong pananaw…
Parang iyang salitang “BIASED” bugbug na bugbug na…..
Mahirap talagang maintindihan ang mga bagay bagay, lalo na at 78% (sinasabi ko sa iyo, may daya pa iyan…. dahil sa tutuo bet.82-84%) ay hindi tumutugma sa iyong pananaw….
Gawin mo na lang ehemplo ang site na ito,… bilangin mo ang mga naniniwala sa “IYONG” presidente, at ang naniniwala na “peke” ang IYONG presidente….
Maliwanag naman siguro na hindi lahat ng nasa bilang na iyan ay masasabi mo’ng “bingi”, at ganiyan ang kanilang hatol sa mga isyu…
Ikaw ang maging bukas ang isip habang pinakikinggan ang mga tape…

At sa kadahilanang may mga PILIPINONG naniniwala at nagpapalabas ng katotohanan….maging masaya ka …. dahil kahit papaano’y may malaking pag-asa at kinabukasan ang ATING bayan.

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eyesWIDEopen

July 13th, 2005 at 8:13 pm

that is correct noelet. there’s more to GMAs “yung dagdag, yung dagdag”… more people are beneficiaries to it.

and that is why… ABS-CBN and GMA7 refuse to play it in their free channels.

kaya ayon… a lot of FILIPINOs don’t know whats inside it yet.

thanks to PCIJ. i don’t need ABS-CBN or GMA7 to play it anymore.

thanks PCIJ.

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eyesWIDEopen

July 13th, 2005 at 8:17 pm

i just came from the rally at AYALA. I saw richard gomez, lorna tolentino, Pip, Roy ALvarez.

sa totoo lang. I admire this people. They are not just plain artistas but they have the heart to clamor for TRUTH and justice.

and by the way Lone_Patriot, RONALD REAGAN was a celebrity.

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long71

July 13th, 2005 at 8:17 pm

eyesWIDEopen said,
July 13, 2005 @ 6:20 pm

sensual said
@ Lavinia, please read the Articles of impeachment of Richard Nixon @

http://watergate.info/impeachment/impeachment-articles.shtml

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GURL its clear… very clear… GMA is a cheat.

buti na lang si NIXON nag resign… si GMA… GOOD LUCK na lang….

at ayon sa aking intelligence report… si LAVINIA ay nagtatrabaho for GMA.

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baka si mike defensor yan hehehe

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Lone_Patriot

July 13th, 2005 at 8:28 pm

Let me just make it clear to everyone that I have no side on this wala akong kinakampi ang gusto ko lang Bumuti ang kalagayan nang Pilipinas yung lang wala nang Iba, sinu ba ang makikinabang doon kung hindi tayong lahat diba? tsaka sana yung mga artista na yan hang-gang maa-ari ay lumayo sa politika dahil hindi sila diyan dapat wala naman silang experience sa PUBLIC SERVICE tsaka sa economics ehh kasi malakas ang influence nila sa mga tao dahil ini-idolo sila pero sana hang-gang doon nalang..

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swerty

July 13th, 2005 at 8:28 pm

The findings of the phrase “yung dagdag, yung dagdag” should give Lacson the credit since he was the first one who found it, sound expert siguro yung tauhan ni Ping. This will be hard to defend when it comes to impeachment process if the tapes will be admmissable as evidence. But knowing Ramos et al. nothing is impossible when you have the big numbers.

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michelyap

July 13th, 2005 at 8:30 pm

I am from Tawi Tawi and as far as I know,there was NO special election that happened during the last week of may 2004. It is very sad that the people in muslim mindanao are again in the center of controversies.GMA lost in my province to FPJ. There was no manipulation of votes. Looking at the different rallies happening right now,I would rather have GMA as president than succumb to the desires of individuals who are calling for her resignation because they are salivating to take over this government.NO TO CIVILIAN-MILITARY JUNTA.Who are they to institute unto themselves the right to choose the people who will lead us?

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eyesWIDEopen

July 13th, 2005 at 8:31 pm

RONALD REAGAN was an artista…. LAUDED BY AMERICANS as a PRESIDENT.

hello wake up!

kaya nga dinaya sa FPJ dahil ang sabi nila… ARTISTA LANG SIYA!!!

too bad. too bad.

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Lone_Patriot

July 13th, 2005 at 8:31 pm

eyesWIDEopen yes you are right Ronald Regan was a celebrity but he made his way up and started from being a GOVERNOR so he is credible since he made his way up and had EXPERIENCE not like ERAP and FPJ (god bless his heart) and now it looks like its SUSAN ROCES?? please!!!

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Naz

July 13th, 2005 at 8:34 pm

Lone_Patriot,. This might be out of topic but i kindly ask/ suggest. Please dont take Christs name in vain bro. I dont mean any offense to you. Just a thought/ suggestion of goodwill. And bro. To analyzation. I dont think that Susan Roces is a political figure. Shes an opposition figure. Theres a reason for this bro. Because people cant take it anymore. People condemn the government to be corrupt. They have their stand you have yours. All respected. Im young. I admit, im probablly the youngest here. 15, 2nd year highschool. I may not be bright or have those highgrades. But let me tell you this, i do know what is going. And for sure, Ms. Susan Roces knows that she has no legal basis to takeover. And I think the oppostion knows this very well. Infact Mr. Escudero stated that in an interview awhile ago. I understand your frustration. All of us are. But think of what our past brothers did for our country. Did they just let that go? I think this is another oppurtunity to make this right. ONCE AND FOR ALL! And belive me, the Filipino people aint to the dogs! I have my beliefs, and i stand on it. I have my sources and etc. And to calling PCIJ to ‘biased’ in my opinion, maybe not. Bro.. please remember that its story behind our stories. Something that we dont hear usually. Im sorry bro if I said anything offending. Just my thoughts! Godbless to you bro! Ingatz.

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eyesWIDEopen

July 13th, 2005 at 8:36 pm

I agree with you NAZ. though we have free speech, to everybody, kindly don’t use the name of the LORD in vain.

thanks.

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Lone_Patriot

July 13th, 2005 at 8:42 pm

May EXPERIENCE si Regan parang kinu kompara mo ang mansanas sa oranges ehh he was governor before he became president..

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eyesWIDEopen

July 13th, 2005 at 8:42 pm

Lone_Patriot, do you know that KING DAVID was a shepherd? or that KING SAUL was a young man working his father’s farm? or that the LORD Jesus was born in a manger to a carpenter?

Just a thought, the ability of a person to govern is never measured by his profession.

It is something about unity… about honesty…

AND definitely not about CHEATING.

“yung dagdag, yung dagdag”

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Lone_Patriot`

July 13th, 2005 at 8:54 pm

Naz,

I admire you, such a young age but actively voicing your opinion, I am not saying im right or anything like that but that is just my

By the way
Regan has political experience parang kinu kompara mo ang mansanas sa oranges ehh he was governor before he became president..

“the ability of a person to govern is never measured by his profession.”

That may be true like 200 years ago but its 2005!! come on..

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kapebarako

July 13th, 2005 at 9:18 pm

E sino nga ba ang nagpilit na i-appoint si Garci despite his record as an election operator in Mindanao?

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noelet

July 13th, 2005 at 9:21 pm

“… Looking at the different rallies happening right now,I would rather have GMA as president… because they are salivating to take over this government.NO TO CIVILIAN-MILITARY JUNTA…”

Are you against the title because a Civilian-Military junta sounds antagonistic? Do you have an idea what its all about? I find people so afraid against it and often relating it to a Martial-rule.

But I believe the concept being pushed right now is not so much in the line of a junta. But of a Care-taker Gov’t. Others call it the transition Gov’t. The idea is haveing proven that the present system doesn’t work so might as well change it. And the creation of a quasi-Gov’t body to enforce such change.

The same thing with GMA/Ramos/JDV’s cha-cha proposal. They also want to change the system but on their proposal they will be the protagonists. And also as a save-face mechanism for Gloria.

“Who are they to institute unto themselves the right to choose the people who will lead us?”

The quasi-Gov’t body will not choose for us the next president or leader. But they will be tasked to lay the frame-work so as the next process, the next time we exercise our right of suffrage will not be in vain again.

The whole process is to make people trust the government more.

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swerty

July 13th, 2005 at 9:39 pm

For me, being a president should have qualities of a good leader. Having a high educational background is preferred but not necessary. What is important is if he/she can unite and move all people to attain his visions and goals. If he/she can make the right choices and decisions that will beneift the greater good for the people. A lot of good leaders, kings, emperors, presidents and prime ministers all around the world had flawed one or two in their personal background but they never failed to served the country right. Trust is very important.

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alb3ar

July 13th, 2005 at 9:57 pm

We had the Incredible Hulk expose of Nani Perez getting $2M. He was the President’s Justice Secretary. So who got the $12M dollars? Was this ever settled? No.

Then there was the Jose Pidal expose wherein one Jose Pidal who apparently held office at Atty. Mike Arroyo’s building. Several hundred million pesos went in and out of Jose Pidal’s accounts. Many speculated that it was Mike Arroyo but his brother, now Congressman Iggy Arroyo claimed he was Pidal. Iggy Arroyo’s tax statements however show that he only paid something like 15,000 pesos tax for the years surrounding the said incident. Did anything happen? No.

We have an economist as President (GMA) yet our country seems to be heading south. GNP expenditure for health was reduced from 5% to 3.5% (World Bank estimate is 5% minimum). Government Hospitals now charge parking fees as well as consultation fees. Nurses earn anywhere from 6000 to 9000 pesos a month. We have doctors earning less than 16,000 a month which is what a fresh graduate makes working in a call center. Is the the economics planned by an Economist?! No wonder nurses are leaving and doctors are now becoming nurses.

Meanwhile you have people in power like then Sen. Jaworski who’s son was involved in a shoot out in Saisaki. Anyone arrested? None. Take note that there were police officials also dining then but up to now, nothing concrete came out of it: no one charged for the shootout.

There was plans of increasing the tax on the masses in the form of a VAT increase were there but implementation was frozen coincidentally when the “Hello Garci?” expose started.

We had the NTC scaring off the press and TV/ radio stations that those who play Gloriagate tapes may get their licenses suspended/revoked (whereas censorship is the job of MTRCB and not the NTC). This was clearly seen by the PCIJ seemingly the only site interested in informing the public.

Then we have the President’s Press Secretary himself saying it was GMA’s voice then later that he wasn’t sure it was GMA. Then GMA later admitted that it was her. So who committed fraud: was it the Press Secretary?
The scary part is that even if GMA is removed from office, how can we be sure that a clean elections will ever be possible? Comelec seems to have lost its credibility… at least in the eyes of the people.

You have Lacson, and Pimentel bent on getting GMA to resign. And who will replace him?? You have GMA’s heels in the Senate who do nothing but yap about their support for her and that the Garci tapes can’t be used in court.

You have Cory and FVR grandstanding. If I remember right, the term Kamag-anak Inc. started during Cory’s time. And it was Ramos who was involved in the 1 billion peso Centennial Village thingie that was all but a waste of resources. Imagine government employees getting leave with pay should they have documentation that they spent their vacation visiting that area. What a laugh! Don’t they understand that they are also part of the problem that our country faces: old politicians trying to return to the limelight ( read TRAPO).

Meanwhile Gen Abat ( a FVR man) is busy suggesting a junta… probably FVR led too. He would not talk loud unless he had some sort of backing otherwise they might just pick him up and assign him to the Happy House near Shaw Blvd (National Center for Mental Health).

Some people dread the concept of Noli de Castro as President. Yes I heard some stories from friends/relatives about his investigative journalism style: pay up or be exposed. The old jokes during election time were “Magandang Gabi Bayad” and ” Noli de Cashtro”. Of course it is all hearsay but these people were in a way guilty of one thing or another thus prompting them to pay up lest they get exposed. Some stories also floated in the net during last election.

Fast forward to the present….
GMA welcomes an impeachment as she is comfy to the fact that her party has the numbers in Congress and will be able to kill its proceedings.

Is there any hope, at all?

Maybe we should send all our politicians on a cruise then have the liner torpedoed. That way we will be rid of them. And our country can have a fresh start.

Replacing GMA is a short term solution. In the absence of a genuine God-fearing President, it will just be the same scenario all over again: with the replacement doing the very thing that his/her predecessor did.

I always thought that GMA would turn the economy around and make things better for all of us. She had all the thoroughbreds running the government. Unfortunately it seems that the horses were running in all directions of the compass.

She should have just kept her word that she would not run in 2004. Maybe our country would be in a better position.

C’est la vie.

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pleigh

July 13th, 2005 at 10:53 pm

Lone_Patriot

yung paggamit mo sa name ni Lord eh malamang sa mga movies mo nakikita at naririnig yan…tapos pupunahin mo yung incompetency ng mga artista para maging lider ng bayan??pathetic pare…oh and by the way, as you stated earlier, you said:–>Ronald Regan was a celebrity but he made his way up and started from being a GOVERNOR so he is credible since he made his way up and had EXPERIENCE not like ERAP and FPJ

i agree with you in the case of FPJ…yup, ala nga sya experience sa politics, pero nde yan magiging hadlang para magsilbi sya sa bayan..at saka…hahaha!!!kakatawa ka..magbasa ka muna ng history natin tol, ERAP?walang experience?pre, MAYOR sya una diba?(sa san juan para malaman mo)tapos naging SENATOR…tapos naging VICE-PRESIDENT…sa tingin mo nde pa rin experience to para maging presidente??yun nga lang nayari sya sa jueteng at kung ano pang kaso…but experience per se, i think he is very much experienced….gma kaya san sya me malaking experience??hmm…

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noelet

July 13th, 2005 at 11:02 pm

I realize at the time of hightened Abu-Sayyaf insurgencies and kidnapping, when Gloria defiantly says, “Uubusin ko kayo…” as if a script coming from an FPJ action flick, that GMA seems less that meets-the-eye.

She never stop the Abu-Sayyaf.

Only after 9/11 when USA got the mandate to get rid of muslim extremism around the world, and ofcourse, with the help of US military, that the ASG has been subdued.

She’s more on to publicity and PR rather than real governance.

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bebs94

July 13th, 2005 at 11:41 pm

kung ano man ang eksaktong bilang ng mga “bumoto” kay gma ayon sa namfrel o comelec ay hindi ko na inalam at gusto pang malaman.my point is,gma is not the duly-elected president.ilan ba ang tumakbo?5 diba?pagsamasamahin mo yung bumoto kay fpj,lacson,roco,villanueva,tapos may mga bumoto pa kay eddie gil…diba mas marami pa rin kesa sa bumoto kay gma?kaya hindi siya duly-elected.individually,yes,pinakamataas ang score kumpara sa ibang kumandidato.pero hindi naman majority ng tao siya ang binoto.AT DINAYA PA NYA!!!kasi kahit naging malinis yung nakaraang halalan,kung sino man nanalo hindi pa rin naman majority yun sa dami ng kalaban.

kaya dapat 2 na lang ang pwedeng tumakbo for president.2 na rin for vice.mas mabilis na sa bilangan,iwas dayaan pa,at pinakamahalaga sa lahat at least 50% naman ng tao siguradong bumoto sa nanalo.

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masha

July 13th, 2005 at 11:43 pm

kahit naman wala itong dagdag-dagdag bit ay clarong claro na nandaya si gma from the tapes. yung pagtaas conversation lang leaves nothing to the imagination. as president, and if she wasnt really a part of the cheating, once that was mentioned she should have cut garci off and told him that she wants to follow the law. pero anong sagot ni gma? ok ok at sa huli nag thank you pa. AT kundi talaga in-charge si garci ng mindanao, why talk to him about it. those conversations are not innocuous. they are damning.

i think the pr of the palace is working overtime, there is at least 1 (there could be 2 or more) who are working on this site (and other sites) trying to influence people to change their minds about gma. it’s not gonna work guy/s and gal/s.

nani perez, nap villarama, mike defensor…why are they so loyal to gma?

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mesky

July 14th, 2005 at 12:03 am

Anyone can be president, whether he/she be a doctor, lawyer, movie star or janitor. In the US, an idiot like Dubya Bush was reelected despite the enmity he spread all over the world. It’s not a question of who’s qualified; what’s needed is someone with administration skills not economic or educational skills. The past years showed us that GMA can’t run Malacanan properly. She’s more interested in keeping her seat rather than her place in history. If a sanggano like Erap can post two surpluses at a time when then the Asian economic crisis was around (and remember Erap inherited the failing economy from FVR), what’s GMA’s excuse?
Maybe we shudder at the thought at an FPJ victory, but if that’s who the voters want, then he should have been proclaimed. Otherwise, let’s forget elections and just make the intellectual elite choose our leader. Screw democracy since we have crab mentality anyway, right? Ninoy must be puking in his grave.

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Bensgr8

July 14th, 2005 at 12:04 am

Going back to the issue at hand, I believe there were 6 copies of election returns per precint as you said, Ms. Sheila. I do not see the logic why GMA and company would be concerned about the last and almost ineligible election return copies of Namfrel? There were 4 others and even the opposition had their own copies. Surely the opposition consolidated their copies to compare them to the COC’s. So why would this conversation be interpretted the way you did. The opposition could easily see the discrepancy.

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ronin

July 14th, 2005 at 12:32 am

PCIJ’s “enhanced” transcription:

GMA (mumbling): Oo, oo … (garbled) …Namfrel does not tally. Pero yun nga, yung dagdag, yung dagdag.

This is what I heard:

GMA: Oo, oo, pero we just have to make sure that Namfrel doesn’t tally. Pero yun nga, yung, yung dagdag, the dagdag.

GMA is giving a direct order for Garci/Comelec to directly interfere with Namfrel’s supposedly independent quick count so as not to expose the dagdag-bawas operation.

This conversation should be seen in relation to Obet Verzola’s critique of the Namfrel quick count.

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masha

July 14th, 2005 at 12:32 am

as i recall, the opposition wanted to contest some returns in the congressional canvass. e ni-noted! lang e.

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juanday

July 14th, 2005 at 12:45 am

Just a reminder to everybody in case you forget Vilma Santos

She is famous, successful artist and no prior experience in politics before she was elected mayor of Lipa City.

For many years I been living in Lipa, I have not seen the city tranform lightning speed when it was Vilma elected as mayor.

She was malign, her inteligence insulted and her previous affairs was exposed by her chauvinist opponents but because people of Lipa wanted changes they gamble with the star.

She works wonder breaking traditional politicians curse to the city for many years and in a short span of time the city is now an envy of its neighbors.

She works from the heart and she gained the trust of her constituents and they love her although not everybody is happy (that is of course due to our crab-mentality as what others want us to believe).

Yes she is a certified, glorified, hardened and 100% artista and what is wrong with her?

Please don’t speak ill with other profession because you hated some of them. It only shows that you possess this Filipino charateristic with crab-mentality thinking and not them.

Artista, doctors, engineers, lawyers etc etc are also Filipino people who wanted to serve their own country.

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Bensgr8

July 14th, 2005 at 12:52 am

ni-noted lang? baka naman wala silang proof? bakit hindi sila nag-inggay noon na fresh pa sa mind natin yung elections? masmadali sanang nakita yung dayaan. martial law ba nun? i recall may access sila sa media dahil artista nga si yumaong idol. ngayon pinahahawakan nila Tatad ay isang audio recording na madaling i-edit, bat naman ako maniniwala diyan. nagoyo na tayo niyan nung martial law. buti sana kung video.

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lineman

July 14th, 2005 at 12:55 am

If someone has picture of GARCI, then post it on the web. And make information hotline. So then take him to the congress. He knows all the truth.

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Wilson

July 14th, 2005 at 1:18 am

If PGMA did whisper to Comelec Commissioner Garciliano in Pilipino, “Yung dagdag, yung dagdag” at the date and time as indicated and in line with the substance of the conversation or conversations, then out of delicadeza, she has no choice but to resign. This is the price of, as well as the basic guiding principle for the highest office in the land. I do not believe there is any way of arguing out of this predicament. The taped conversation is the evidence unto itself. The argument that other presidents had also cheated is no argument at all. Whether the election was actually won or lost is also a non-issue. Like death, it marks absolute finality. This is just an expression of my personal view only.

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oned3r3r

July 14th, 2005 at 1:20 am

Tama na ang alitan mga pare. Let’s love our country. God save the filipinos and my tax money.

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galingcebu

July 14th, 2005 at 1:32 am

I dont know why people put so much high regard on educational attainment in running this country. Most of our Politicians might have a higher education but they are MAL-EDUCATED. In politics HONESTY and HUMILITY are the most important qualification. You don’t need to have a Phd. in Economics to have these qualities. It is so depressing to hear people say…. mag pinag-aralan ba ???? ano ang natapos niya ???? This type of mentality is so wrong…… Unfortunately this is what happened in my beloved Cebu. Cebuanos are so keen on Education that they forgot to look at Character of the Politician.

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masha

July 14th, 2005 at 1:35 am

the congressional canvass committee with mr noted kiko pangilinan and surprise surprise doj sec and the country’s resident male chauvinist pig (apologies to this animal) repeatedly said that the objections should be properly aired out with the PET. kaya yun ang ginawa ng opposition kaso namatay na ang kandidato nila. loren’s petition is still pending. she just deposited 4M ata to fund the recount.

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galingcebu

July 14th, 2005 at 1:44 am

I saw Mr. Noted Kiko Pangilinan with Sen. Drilon in TFC. Did he switch sides ???? I have never heard him say anything against GMA. I use to admire this person but as time passes-by lumabas na ang tunay na kulay. I wish he could redeem himself by going against her FAKE PRESIDENT.

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zorros

July 14th, 2005 at 1:58 am

Who is monitoring GMA right now???

Who knows, she might have been dispensing Government Funds to those local Mayors, Governors, some Congressman and few personalities that continously kowtows and pledged allegiance to GMA in Malacanang.

GMA might be using Filipino’s tax money to prop up her sagging presidency. We can’t trust her now, now that she is in a very desperate condition. One glaring example – Mike Defensor’s salary came from the Filipino and hence should serve the interest of the people not doing PR job for Arroyo.

In short GMA should Resign Now…. Maybe she needs a hefty “Golden Parachute” as an incentive to Resign.

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masha

July 14th, 2005 at 1:59 am

really, ano ba ang accomplishment ni kiko? was he even voted to the senate for himself and/or his achievements? or was it because of ate shawie’s drawing power? and he is the most boring speaker. nobody knows what he stands for. i think he is being too careful of choosing the “wrong” side which might hurt his chances of becoming president one day. with ate shawie on his side, that’s not all impossible. he’s all porma and no substance.

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zorros

July 14th, 2005 at 2:28 am

Catching GMA talking to GARCI and talking about election matters is in itself glaring evidence on how GMA closely monitored and orchestrated the massive cheating during the 2004 Election.

That is why GLORIA appointed Garci as a Commissioner in the first place. She planned her victory way before the election starts – no more no less. Irregardless of our so called BIASES there is a common standard on this kind of action.

The SAD part is that GMA came to power because of her so called “Moral Ascendancy”. She was branded to be Hollier than Erap and even boasted her Phd (?) in Economics and in the end she would claim as defense is a mere “sorry, for lapse of judgement”.

What a F#@#@king kind of excuse!!!

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jonathan

July 14th, 2005 at 3:21 am

you know why people put high regard on educational attainment? educational attainment in general signify that the candidate is qualified for the job. but there were people in the past who showed that their lack of educational qualifications is no impediment to their success. Magsaysay and Ninoy are prime examples. i agree with you character and honesty are important considerations too. but by all indications gloria and cory have all these qualifications but are still short of expectations. i guess you have to add the person sharing their pillows too.
to give credit where credit is due, GMA was about to have been the sitting President to preside over a booming economy if not for this mess right now. FVR also presided over one of the longer running boom economy. and im not talking bull here. economic facts and figures will support me.

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chicaronCdrilon

July 14th, 2005 at 3:29 am

how sure are we na yun na yun talaga ang sinabi ni GMA. Baka naman dag dag din yan eh nagdadagdagan na lahat. Sige dagdagan natin problema natin ok. Araw araw tayo rally tapos lahat sirain natin, mob na talaga eh wala na atang matino sa atin. stop na rally kaya nga me representative tau sa congress para sila yung guluhin natin muna at wag mangdamay na buong bansa eh magrarally sa ayala para guluhin ang magulong ekonomiya. Impeach kung impeach pero walang tama na rally kasi hanggang kailan pa ba magrarally sina satur ocampo, kailan kaya sila titigil.lahat ata ng gobyerno ayaw nila. takbo nalang lahat ng presidente pati sina satur at tignan natin kung kaya nilang baguhin ang bansa natin.

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masha

July 14th, 2005 at 3:38 am

ang konteksto ng usapan ay botohan at bilangan. walang ibang idadagdag kundi boto. tsk tsk. wag na tayong magtanga tangahan.

ang pag demonstrate or pag rally ay karapatan natin na pinangangalagaan. paano na lang kung wala iyon at ka kokonchaba ni gma lahat sa 3 branches of govt? di ang kanyang pandaraya ay di na lang papansinin? dahil sa puede tayong mag rally maari nating maipahiwatig ang ating dismaya, pagkasuka at pagkasuklam kay gma.

demonstrations are not the same as anarchy. pinagugulo mo yung usapan. claruhin mo muna ang utak mo at parang nagpa panic ka na.

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chicaronCdrilon

July 14th, 2005 at 3:39 am

Kung totot man na nandaya si GMA eh baka naman pumantay lang sya dahil artista ang kalaban nya hehehe mali pero kung iisipin parang ok lang minsan mas marami ang hindi naiisip kung sino ang tamang iboboto natin. LAhat damay damay na. But as always, rule of law should prevail. let us not jump to conclusion that “yun dagdag” na talaga. Let us give her a day in court, a chance to explain herself in the impeachment court. Kaya lang, wala rin akong tiwala sa mga senador natin, kahit walang kasalanan o me kasalanan si GMA, they will surely vote not because of their “konsensya” (kung meron pa) but to protect there interest. hehehe let us ask US to make the philippines part of their country nalang… kaya lang baka di din sila pumayag noh mahulo kasi tayo. Tayo mismo ang sumisira sa kinabukasan natin…

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juana

July 14th, 2005 at 3:50 am

Pilipinas kong minumutya, pinagtatawanan ng buong mundo.

mga kaalyado ni gma lahat sinungaling at mayayabang. sa kongreso nakakasuka manood sa gloriagate hearing lalo na iyong mga congressmen na hawak ni gma.

gma said the Lord put me here… mrs arroyo the Lord is watching you and He’s waiting for the right time to get you out and put you in Hell.

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Garcigwen

July 14th, 2005 at 4:16 am

ronin,
you could be on to something.

here is what you heard:
pero we just have to make sure Namfrel doesn’t tally

no matter how many times I play it.
Pero we just have to make (si dis) Namfrel doesn’t tally.

i heard everything except the ‘sure’. it’s too garbled.
Ang galing mo, man.
I hope they can get the mother tape. Clearly, this part of the conversation is important evidence. and I’m sure Pcij is on it by now.

pcij’s ‘yung Dagdag yung Dagdag’ came thru loud and clear.

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juju

July 14th, 2005 at 5:44 am

Obvious na obvious na nga e,ano pa ba ang gusto nyong malaman,ang sama nito ang mga kababayan nating mga taga Baguio galit na sa mga nag ra-rally,tingin nila sa inyo mga mangmang,gera ang kalalabasan nito,ang mga Muslim tahimik gusto nila ang nangyayari sa Manila

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bukbok

July 14th, 2005 at 6:04 am

for now, stalling the inevitable might serve well the nation in turmoil

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habagat

July 14th, 2005 at 6:10 am

Ang sabi ni Susan Roces ” May kasabihan tayo ng ang Sinungaling ay kapatid ng magnanakaw”

Ang sa akin naman ay ganito ” ANG SINUNGALING AY ASAWA AT INA NG MGA MAGNANAKAW” na sa ngayon ay nagpapalamin dito sa San Francisco. Mga duwag na tumakbo at iniwan si Gloria mag-isa, just in case she got booted out of office, FG and Mickey don’t have the same immunity as the MOTHER OF ALL LIARS. Gaano kaya ang nakulimbat ng mag amang ito?

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okra

July 14th, 2005 at 6:36 am

“justice is greater than our personal feelings, greater than pity, greater than revenge.” – “csi”

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JohnMc

July 14th, 2005 at 8:41 am

Narinig nyo ba ang deny ni Sec Defensor nakikipag “pustahan” pa what a word sa sobra nang pag protekta kay GMA halatang kumikita may perang pang pusta eh…

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ryansdv

July 14th, 2005 at 8:43 am

Bakit kaya ‘to nangyayari sa atin? All of this has a purpose. It is not only PGMA that will be change but all of us! Why theirs cheating? I don’t believe that cheating only happened last election. But all past elections, yes! it happened. Because politicos are greedy of power and wealth. Repent, repent, repent and believe the Gospel.

After all the storm, calmness will come.

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agol_78

July 14th, 2005 at 9:17 am

yung ” yung dagdag, yung dagdag” ay malinaw sa aking kopya. maraming ulit ko na pinakinggan ang gloria tape at ang aking pasya ay malinaw ang pandaraya.

mahiya sya!

nagsumpa sya na pangalagaan ang saligang batas pero nanguna naman sya sa paglibag nito tapos sasabihin nya sundin natin ang saligang batas.

niririspito ko ang saligang batas d katulad nya.

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agol_78

July 14th, 2005 at 9:34 am

maganda yan na pustahan, pera nga naman

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pags

July 14th, 2005 at 9:44 am

Hindi lang kaya nagkamali si GMA ng tinawagan? Yong medical doctor niya sana ang tatawagan kaya nasabi niya ang “yung dagdag, yung dagdag” para sa height niya. Kaso ang natawagan yong doctor ng ballota na si garci.

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penpenpen88

July 14th, 2005 at 9:59 am

Bakit kaya ‘to nangyayari sa atin? by ryansdv
– this is happening coz we have a president who stole the office not once but twice-

-Ms. lavina and all those fence sitters and pro gloria individuals out there. Basahin nyo nalang article ni “alb3ar” sa taas pag nasagot nyo lahat yang mga tanong nya ng mahusay. I will stop criticizing her government.-

Who knows, she might have been dispensing Government Funds to those local Mayors, Governors, some Congressman and few personalities that continously kowtows and pledged allegiance to GMA in Malacanang.

-With this president you betcha! Sinungaling nga di ba kapatid ng magnanakaw-

just found out from a credible source that some of the protestors in Makati were paid by the opposition! WAKE UP Pinoys!!!! I cannot believe some of you will risk the your own country’s well being for pocket change! this is truly sad, don’t tell me the PCIJ staff if being paid by the opposition! to be fabulist.. by lone_patriot

-can’t you blame them?? Pag ikaw kaya wlang pinag aralan at saka mahirap, di ka ba kakagat sa ganung offer?? Dapat isipin mo bat sila naging ganun??
Di po ba to dahil meron tayong presidente na masyadong indebted sa church na yung population control natin e isinasasangtabi nalang para lang ma appease yung church leaders? Dumadami po mahirap natin at kinakapos na tayo sa pondo upang tustusin ang pangangailangan nila. E the root cause of the problem in the firstt place is a runaway population. Problema sa predenteng ito is marami syang utang sa mga nagluklok sa kanya sa pagkapangulo.The result of this lapse in judgement yung E-vat ni arroyo yung PPA ni ramos.

Di po ba dahil marami tayong “educated” na mambabatas na wala namang programa para i-angat ang kabuhayan ng mahirap. Worse ginagamit pa sila para lang sa pansariling kapakanan. Opposition man o Administration alam naman natin yung breed nila di ba? I think ms arroyo falls under the same category, she admitted that in a speech she made last week di po ba? Here’s our chance to kick out one by one the trapo parasites that are draining our coffers dry, I say lets start with gloria.

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brulyo

July 14th, 2005 at 10:27 am

Change the system, change the leadership. Our country could be compared to a computer syustem attacked by virus. No amount odf anti-virus could fix the problem as it weill still reoccur in the future. We need a total clean up of the hard drive (corrupt system). Even a coup d’ etat is a democratic solution.

In the next days to come–“It is the economy stupid!” No amount of Central Bank Intervention could save GMA and Noli de Castro.

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Alberto C. Austria

July 14th, 2005 at 10:36 am

Based on my own analysis Gloria Arroyo had cheated her rivals during the 2004 Election. The best thing that she should do now is to resign to spare our country from political turmoil caused by her being a cheater and queen of all liars.

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emie

July 14th, 2005 at 10:55 am

I dont understand some people calling for GMA’s resignation, they’re demanding for her supporters to realize that GMA cheat’s and when these supporters finally realize that they’re on the wrong boat and now calls for their former boss to resign, now they’re criticizing them that they are “traitors” why cant we be happy that finally these former supporters of GMA has realized that they’re on the wrong boat.

Let’s be happy that many people now are calling for GMA’s resignation because we can’t stand being run by a fake president..

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ronin

July 14th, 2005 at 11:17 am

garcigwen-

I used a sound editing program to enhance the audio and slow down the playback. A useful technique. : )

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charliebolts

July 14th, 2005 at 11:21 am

To everyone…
Please act like you live in a democracy, and let the removal of Gloria be done legally. Always remember, don’t believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see. There are evil forces in the Philippines trying to get their own personal gain from what is happening right now, and if you are backing them, then you are just as guilty for the consequences. Susan Roces, go home where you belong, you have no right to stick your nose in this business. Yes, I feel sorry for what has happened to FPJ, but Susan, you have no business compelling the people of the Philippines to act like savages.. And for those in the Phils who are joining rallies so they can eat a Big Mac at Mcdonald’s, SHAME ON YOU !!! Go back to your home, and pray to God that He isn’t coming down to strike you dead for your insolance. As far as GMA goes, she’s not stepping down, she has the Philippine military, plus the backing of the USA to say that she isn’t. If there is enough evidence to impeach her, then it will be handled by your Congress. The whole idea of a democracy is innocent until proven guilty. Funny thing is, 80% + of the people you see rallying haven’t even heard the tapes… hmm… Just remember, in order for the people to be in control of their government, they have to be able to control themselves, and take responsibility for their own actions. Don’t you think it’s about time for that to happen, people?????

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usda_gradeameat

July 14th, 2005 at 11:27 am

mga kapatid..wag po tayong mainip…darating din ang panahon na mawawala din si Gloria..Tandaan po ninyo, ayon nga kay Cong. Zubiri (isa sa mga arogante sa Gobyerno), tatlong taon daw nilang trinabaho ang pagkakawala ni Erap sa panguluhan, mula pa sa pagkaupo nito. Basta’t wala lang bibitaw…ipagpatuloy lang natin ang pagtataguyod at pakikipaglaban para sa TAMA, at NARARAPAT.

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agol_78

July 14th, 2005 at 11:36 am

Lone_Patriot said,
July 13, 2005 @ 7:47 pm

I have concluded that this BLOG is BIASED how can you guys call yourself a journalist if your one sided? just like those individuals with hidden “political agenda’s”… I just found out from a credible source that some of the protestors in Makati were paid by the opposition! WAKE UP Pinoys!!!! I cannot believe some of you will risk the your own country’s well being for pocket change! this is truly sad, don’t tell me the PCIJ staff if being paid by the opposition! to be fabulist..

That is all..

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BIAS?

sus! ilan ba ang government TV at Radio stations sa boung bansa? Alam mo ang programa na “TINIG NG BAYAN” ng NBN?
sa oras na ito tuloy pa rin yan. Nanunuod ako para mapakinggan ko side nila. pero d balace eh yong guest nila official ng governo, kaibigan ni GMA, cabinet member at hanggang ngayon wala pa akong nakita na guest na anti-gloria o opposition. BIAS nga naman kasi nasa governo eh, buti ka pa makakasalita ka dito, sa “TINIG NG BAYAN” walang puwang yata ang anti-GMA. pwede ka don magsalita kasi parang pro.

sakin resign sya kng ayaw nya eh impeachment.

hay buhay! ang gulo!

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Chihiro

July 14th, 2005 at 11:41 am

Lone_Patriot:

I just found out from a credible source that those who attended the pro-GMA rally in Davao were paid P300 each.

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emie

July 14th, 2005 at 11:50 am

I dont think that this site is biased, it just happened that those people posting their message for GMA to resign have outnumbered those that are for GMA…

How can we possibly be content with the impeachment of GMA while were all aware that the impeachment will not push thru it will not even reach the Senate, coz supporters of GMA preempt it, kaya nga were asking na lang for GMA to peacefully step down eh, …

I think the wiretap scandal’s say’s it all.. lets not be blinded.. my japanese colleagues here in the office often ask me if its true that the president has cheated, one of my colleague even told me, that why did we allow it to happen.. db nakakahiya.. while us filipinos here in the office are often praised by our japs colleagues because of our effort on our field, behind our backs pala eh pinag-uusapan nila ang presidente natin..

Let us all be enlightened please!

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archi88

July 14th, 2005 at 11:54 am

when emmie boncodin resigned, is it true that she could not take the blatant misuse of the special allotment release orders issued by her department?

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masha

July 14th, 2005 at 11:59 am

nililihis lang tayo sa mga bayaran-bayaran sa rally. ang importante pa rin ay huling-huling mandaraya ang walang karapatang nakaupo sa malacanang kaya dapat na siyang umalis.sana lang magkaron siya ng malasakit sa mga pinoy. ang mga arroyo ay nakinabang na sa posisyon at maaari nang di magtrabaho para mabuhay. tama na.

i’m worried now for bunye. he looks sicker by the day. lying does that to you, you know. but i’m not THAT worried. he’s just getting what he deserves.

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emie

July 14th, 2005 at 12:05 pm

i have heard the tapes several times.. in fact sama sama pa kaming mga pinoy na pinakinggan yang tape na yan dito sa japan… i think ikaw ang hindi nakarinig.. a US educated person like GMA is engaged in that kind of conversation, na parang walang pinag-aralan??

im not judging anybody.. I think the tape’s speaks for itself.. and do you think pag dinala sa congress ang impeachment trial magiging fair ba yan, the people supporting GMA are very vocal na haharangin nila yan.. now were is the fair trial your talking about here bro..

nasan na ang freedom of speech kung every message namin e ijajudge mo kami,.. i respect your opinion and I hope you respect mine and others too.. I will not even judge you for your opinion bro

peace!

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masha

July 14th, 2005 at 12:05 pm

emie, kasi sa japan pag na disgrace ka ng ganito, seppuku ang resulta. we would have been rid of these recycled politicians/oligarchy if we practiced honor and seppuku.

gma’s apos should study abroad. they can afford it anyway. they have a building in sanfo, remember? anyway, they should be away because i’m sure they’ll be known in the phils as mga apo ng mandaraya.

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masha

July 14th, 2005 at 12:07 pm

and dont tell me lone_patriot is being paid by gma or one of her lackeys? take what you dish, man.

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Michael

July 14th, 2005 at 12:11 pm

There’s something that I haven’t heard mentioned yet. Throughout these recordings, “Garci” makes quite a few references to “us”, apparently referring to the Arroyo camp. Even though the COMELEC is a government agency, it is still supposed to remain neutral while overseeing the election process. Shouldn’t we be looking more closely at this part of the process? How can any challenger ever hope to compete fairly if the COMELEC commissioners see themselves as part of one side? Judges who express a bias during a court case are supposed to inhibit themselves. This is no different.

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emie

July 14th, 2005 at 12:16 pm

hahha… marsha napatawa moko ha.. putol katawan agad.. wag naman ganun sis.. dapat iparealize na lang natin sa mga tao kung ano ang TAMA or MALI..

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juanday

July 14th, 2005 at 12:18 pm

It is easy to reverese the sagging economy.

It is easy to eliminate poverty and jobless.

It is easy to deny all this election related cheating.

Just modify the terms and its reference standard or in layman’s term, just make the edges of square smooth and call them circle. All of GMA’s core team are expert on it and to compliment their well funded spin-master it adds hot chili sauce to bitter truth and make them very spicy and not bitter. That is what they learned in famous and reputable universities of the world.

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emie

July 14th, 2005 at 12:18 pm

bro ako din eh, ive been trying to post my last 2 messages but the message says that ipapakita muna sa admin.. I think its fair enough

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emie

July 14th, 2005 at 12:21 pm

siguro lets stop criticizing each other and just air our thoughts and opinion.. ayaw siguro ng site ng me nagsasagutan or nagiinsultuhan.. lets just respect one another’s opinion..

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Alecks Pabico

July 14th, 2005 at 12:23 pm

charliebolts,

Censorship you say? Far from it. For some reason, your comments are being captured by the anti-spam plugin. Good thing, we’ve already upgraded to the latest version of Spam Karma so I am able to recover those that have been deleted. More work for me though. :-)

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opti

July 14th, 2005 at 12:24 pm

charliebolts,

Be kinder to us who go to the rallies and take McDo burgers. Yung sa akin binili ko kasi. Seriously, we who go to the rallies have a deeper reason for doing so. We want to express our outrage and disgust about GMA’s betrayal of public trust and her stubborn grip on the presidency which many now doubt belongs really to her.

On insolance, actually I think it’s “insolence”, some people on both sides (pro and anti-GMA) are guilty of this. Besides, I think God is kind and merciful as to understand people’s insolence instead of “coming down to strike them dead for their insolence”, as you claim. Well, I simply observe that the God I pray is like that. Maybe yours is the same so there is really no need to point fingers, di ba?

Peace!

opti

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emie

July 14th, 2005 at 12:24 pm

my messages are being blocked also, apologize if i have posted offended messages (which im confident that i did not)

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emie

July 14th, 2005 at 12:40 pm

thanks alecks for restoring our messages….

kio tsukete!

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Alecks Pabico

July 14th, 2005 at 12:41 pm

charliebolts,

You recently tried to post a comment using a different nickname/alias (chuckybolts) but the plugin detected the same IP address. That’s a sure guarantee that your comment will be labeled as spam. I have discovered a number of similar cases. So my appeal to everyone is to please stick to your blog identities.

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gangster_roger

July 14th, 2005 at 12:44 pm

this is the bigger tragedy…

The people beleived the pot when it called the kettle black.

But they will fall in the end. And when they do I will help tear them to peices…

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chuckybolts

July 14th, 2005 at 12:50 pm

thanks, alecks. smart spam blocker!! sort of!! haha

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CGBacani

July 14th, 2005 at 12:50 pm

Definitely GMA is NOT the only problem of our country now. The economic and political problems will continue to haunt us. But the present problem right now is not GMA per se but her legitimacy and credibility. She lost all that. We do not need a president who is an economist or one that is as brilliant and intelligent as GMA. All we need is a leader who is true to the people and who is not a cheater.

That is the issue here.

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estudyante

July 14th, 2005 at 12:54 pm

alecks,

just a question, if there are three of us using the same computer (coz we’re in an office) will our blogs be considered as spam?

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tobebs

July 14th, 2005 at 12:59 pm

The opposition should accept Defensors challenge in proving if “yung dagdag, yung dagdag” was really uttered by the president. This way we will be spared of a long and tedious process of impeachement since the agreement is if proven its the president she should resign and if not those accusing her should be the one to resign. I think its a fair deal.

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san_pedro

July 14th, 2005 at 1:02 pm

If she’s really sincere in solving this political problem of our country and she is not hiding something, why not open all the ballot boxes being questioned by the opposition. Anyway, as claimed by her cabinet men na malinis ang kanyang konsensya, wala syang dapat ikatakot.

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emie

July 14th, 2005 at 1:05 pm

I agree with tobebs na if its GMA then she should really resign..

pero at this time I dont think the opposition needs to alter the wiretap by addign the “yung dagdag.. yung dagdag” message.. kasi inamin na naman ni GMA na sya yun eh.. I guess it just happened na it was only yesterday that the “yung dagdag” message was played…

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emie

July 14th, 2005 at 1:07 pm

I agree also that its no only GMA who is the sole problem of our country, I think in one way or the other me problem din sa taong bayan…

but as a leader of the country (as she claims), she should start solving her own problem by stepping down..

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eyesWIDEopen

July 14th, 2005 at 1:53 pm

That is perfectly right. if we will judge our leaders based on education… then lets scrap election and give the PHILIPPINES to our EDUCATED ELITE!!!

buena suerte!

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pleigh

July 14th, 2005 at 1:59 pm

with regards to the tape conversation saying “yung dagdag, yung dagdag”…it is very clear to my ears even without using enhancement softwares, just use an earphone, i think it will be very clear…but in my case, i used a headphone(sennheiser), pc with a cheap soundcard…and there you go…the remarks are clear….make more enhancements to it, malinaw na talaga yung part before ng “yung dagdag, yung dagdag”…

as to some people saying that those rallyist are not paying taxes…kaya malakas ang loob mag rally…naku po…bumili lang sila ng kendi,me tax na yun, pano nila masasabi na di sila nagbabayad ng tax?nde porke nagbabayad ka ng tax nyo eh isusumbat na natin sa mga kababayan nating talagang walang wala….siguro nga me kasalanan sila, pero its not enough reason na susumbat natin sa kanila na magbayad ka muna ng tax mo bago ka magrally…at actually,yung tax natin na dapat na gagamitin para ipantulong sa kanila eh sa kanila nga ba napupunta??kaya nga me word na “corruption” dahil yun ang nangyayari sa mga buwis na binabayad natin…

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worrier

July 14th, 2005 at 2:04 pm

alam mo lone_patriot, medyo dilat dilat mo yung mata mo, granted that the anti-gma are being paid, bakit ang pro-gma ba hindi? tsaka teka ng amuna, hindi mo ba napapansin, bawat tira sa GMA government, ABA, demanda ang panlaban ng DOJ. do you think that’s fair? BIAS itong site? di mo lang siguro matanggap na mas marami kaming malalakas ang loob na maglabas ng saloobin namin. Ano ba ang gusto mo? impeachment? up to now ba naniniwala ka na may patutunguhan iyun? parliamentary form of government ba ang gusto mo? para ano? maging prime minister si FVR? E SIYA ANG MAY KASALANAN KUNG BAKIT TAYO NAGKAKAGANITO E..SIGURO NAMAN ALAM MO YUN, BRO. PEACE, MAN

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lantis123

July 14th, 2005 at 2:07 pm

Im really worried about what’s happening to this country. Ang Crab Mentality natin, imbes na baguhin natin, lalo lang nating pinalalala. If GMA did cheat last election, ang tanong siya lang ba? Sa mga oposisyong nag iingay, MALINIS ba kayo? If GMA did cheat, sino ang gusto nyong pumalit sa kanya? E lahat ng tao nasa makati kahapon, kahit iisa ang isinisigaw nila, may kanya kanyang naman silang mga kandidato sa pagka Presidente oras ngang bumaba si GMA. Yan ba ang pagkakaisa na sinasabi nyo? Kung sakaling bababa si Gloria, will it be another brawl for Her throne amongst the opposition personalities? Kapag hindi naiupo si kwan, magmamartsa na naman ba si kwan sa kung saan nya gusto? Aba e hindi na titigil ang ganitong sistema kung lahat na lang e gustong umupo sa malacanan. Wake up Pipol!!! Let us all solve this problem as mature adults at ng hindi tayo pinagtatawanan ng buong mundo!!! Hindi dekorasyon ang Constitution. I believe that we should all respect it and follow what it says. Pakita natin sa buong mundo na ang Pinoy, hindi lang puro satsat, marunong ding magbasa at sumunod sa mga sinasabi sa ating mga batas.

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JohnMc

July 14th, 2005 at 2:10 pm

Pag nag resign si GMA sino papalit? Si Noli De Castro kaya kaya nya? Mapapaganda kaya nya ang ekonomiya? Hindi kaya mag pag gamit din sya sa mga negosyante at mga trapo na nakapaligid kay Gloria eh di wala ring kwenta si Loren kaya diba nag poprotesta pa sya hay… saan tayo nito pupunta dapat pag papatayin na lang lahat yang mga yan pwede naman seguro mamuhay ng wala sila baka sakaling umayos pa. Nakakahiya man aminin pero marami talagang pinoy ang tanga dahil nag papagamit sa mga lintik na mga politikong walang ginawa kundi mag nakaw at magpakasasa sa pera ng bayan. Sana nga may pag asa pa. Ang tanong kelan kaya?

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eyesWIDEopen

July 14th, 2005 at 2:14 pm

certainly…. I joined the AYALA rally out of conviction. And dear friends, I wasn’t paid a penny.

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emie

July 14th, 2005 at 2:22 pm

its true that its not only GMA whose cheating, opposition also did.. so it will still boils down to what majority of the people is asking for.. GMA cheats she should resign.. some opposition people cheats they should resign also..

I am not an erap loyalist but one good example when the constitution was disrespected was when the senate did not finish the impeachment trial and instead asked the people to go to the streets.. why now the same people who disrespected the constitution before are now asking for the constitution to be obeyed… makes us wonder!

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Alecks Pabico

July 14th, 2005 at 2:24 pm

estudyante,

There could be a potential problem there since all of you will be assigned the same IP address. Please tell me who else are sharing the computer with you.

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pleigh

July 14th, 2005 at 2:24 pm

lantis you said –>If GMA did cheat last election, ang tanong siya lang ba? Sa mga oposisyong nag iingay, MALINIS ba kayo?

i believe tama ka, malamang nga lahat talaga nangdaya…unfortunately, nahuli sya…kung sino nagpa wiretap?ewan natin…abangan na lang natin ang susunod na kabanata…hehehe

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rexjayson

July 14th, 2005 at 2:29 pm

ANYONE? Where can I buy PERSONALLY the speical i-report mag? National bookstor and mag stalls in SM doesnt sell one. Thanks

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tobebs

July 14th, 2005 at 2:38 pm

Its unfair to say na yong mga nag rarally ay hindi nagbabayad ng tax. Kahit na ba mag file sila ng income tax e wala rin naman seguro silang mababayaran dahil wala nga silang income. Assuming na nag file nga sila at merong refundandable, sabihin nyo ngayon kung yong nagfile ng income tax na may refundable kung natanggap na nila ang mga refund nila. Yan ang problema ng gobyerno natin pag tayo ang may tax deficiency kakasuhan agad, pag meron naman tayong tax refund wala namang dumarating. Yong tax refund due sa akin sa awa ng Diyos limang taon na ang lumilipas hanggang ngayon ay wala pa.

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emie

July 14th, 2005 at 3:17 pm

Sec. Gonzales’s comment’s about Mrs. Aquino is way too far from being a professional one, as Secretary of Justice dapat di ganung klaseng mga comment ang binibitiwan nya.. napaka uprofessional

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Alecks Pabico

July 14th, 2005 at 3:22 pm

rexjayson,

Try National Bookstore branches in SM Megamall, Glorietta and Greenbelt.

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dagdag_bawas

July 14th, 2005 at 4:01 pm

Well” yung dagdag, yung dagdag” kung tayo ay mga Filipino, siguro naman naiintindihan natin kung anu ang ibig sabihin ng salitang yun…hindi man direktang utusan ni Gloria si Garci na mandaya eh alam naman natin na pagdating ng halalalan eh talagang may dayaang nangyayari…Hindi man tahasang aminin ni Gloria na siya at sinabi nya un sa tape eh hindi maipagkakaila ito sa taong bayan na siya yun, sapagkat kahit anumang idahilan ng Malacañang hindi na nya mababago ang impresyon ng taong bayan na talagang ginamit niya ang kanyang kapangyarihan upang mandaya mismo sa eleksyon…malamang ang mga humihiling na bumaba na si Gloria sa pwesto ay siguro naman ay “hindi lang kapapanganak kahapon”…Sa mga taong nag-rarally sa Makati o kaya san man dako ng Maynila, konting ingat lang po sa taong matataas sa sumusuporta sa ganitong panawagan na mag RESIGN na si Gloria sapagkat pag nagkataon sila rin ang tatapak satin…isa din sila sa mga may vested interest sa kapangyarihan kaya sila nandyan… para sakin pare-parehas ang mga politiko na yan na mga kurakot…ginugugol nila ang pera ng bayan imbes gamitin ito upang maisulong ang mga programa ng gobyerno, tulungan ang mga maliliit na negosyante upang kahit papanu makapag produce ng mga trabaho ang mga ito…hindi lingid sa ating lahat na sa imperial manila napakagulo at puro batuhan ng putik…hindi ba alam ng ating mga politikong ito ang tunay na problema ng bayan…marami parin ang walang trabaho, walang makain, at wala pang koryente lalo na sa lib-li na lugar…kung hindi lang responsibilidad na magbayan ng buwis eh hindi ko na sana papayagan na kaltasan ng tax ang aking sweldo sapagkat nakikita ko na kinukurakot at winawaldas lamang ng mga pulitikong kurakot ang ating pinaghirapan…ay naku talaga naman nakakaawa na talaga tayo…sana maayos na ito habang maaga…mabuhay ang mga Filipino!!!

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angeltracks

July 14th, 2005 at 4:16 pm

IMHO, the fact that the word “dagdag” has been made clear, if indeed it has, does not really matter that much anymore. It’s amazing that gloria’s supporters cannot understand what the conversations implied/meant, notwithstanding the garbled portions. Almost everybody else has clearly understood. No reading between the lines was even necessary. It wasn’t necessary anymore for Gloria to actually say “dagdagan mo” or “dayain mo” for the people to understand, as most of them have. I would think that even a reasonably intelligent high schooler would understand clearly that the calls were for the end purpose of winning the elections by conniving with the comelec commissioner to cheat. Gloria even said something like “…that’s why I’m telling you, so you (or “we” – i forgot) can make the appropriate remedies.” What is so unclear to gloria’s supporters? They say it was a wire-tapped conversation and should not be dignified. But isn’t that a side issue already? By all means, go after the wire-tappers, but listen to the substance of the tape. I say we should even thank the wire-tappers because without their ‘creativity’, we would never have found out the truth. And the impostor in Malacañang would have continued to arrogantly strut through 2010, unmindful of the pricks of her conscience. But then again, the Holy Book says that everything hidden will come to light…

Also, I think the most telling evidence of guilt was the initial strategy of saying it was a regional GMA political leader or something named Gary that Gloria was talking to. They surfaced this person who even had a one-on-one interview with Dong Puno. When it didn’t work because obviously, this person was much more articulate than garci and had no Visayan accent at all, this “Gary” was made to quietly leave the scene. But the administration attempted to handle the problem with further deceit. Why isn’t anybody asking them about it now? If she were not guilty, wouldn’t she be the first person to want Garcillano to surface so he can clarify matters in her favor? And wouldn’t he come at Ma’am’s prodding? But no, even if garci was obviously engaging in criminal acts, nobody from the administration, and especially not kris aquino’s self-confessed talent manager nor the NBI, is interested in having him surface. Wonder under whose skirt he is hiding now??? Or is he hiding with a gag on his mouth? Just asking…

They are proposing a charter change to resolve the problem that is gloria. That’s funny – it’s something akin to how Arnold Clavio traced the developments, and I’m paraphrasing it here… “Hello, garci???”…..”I’m sorry.”….. “Now, all of you in my cabinet resign!” – as if it was the cabinet members’ fault. It’s the same thing with the charter change. Maybe we can consider that in the future, but a cha-cha is not the answer to this problem of a dishonest, untrustworthy person claiming to be president. Step down first, and leave that matter in the hands of the decent and morally upright citizens of the land.

Finally, if anybody here knows about lexigrams, notice that the name Gloria contains the word “LIAR.”

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penpenpen88

July 14th, 2005 at 4:20 pm

All i can say kung dati si gloria ung nag dagdag dagdag.. ngayon tayo naman ang dagdag sa buwis sa kuryente sa presyo ng bilihin.. yan ang kapalit ng dagdag ni gloria

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pleigh

July 14th, 2005 at 4:33 pm

angeltrack said–>…and especially not kris aquino’s self-confessed talent manager..

hehehe…ayus na ayus ang description mo,pasok na pasok…hahaha!!!

another –>Finally, if anybody here knows about lexigrams, notice that the name Gloria contains the word “LIAR.”

pag sinama mo yung ibang letters, bagay talga name nya sa kanya…”GO LIAR”…away from the palace…hahaha!!

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james_villareal

July 14th, 2005 at 4:38 pm

It is very clear now that Gloria really cheated in last year’s election. I’m wondering why her loyal subjects still side with her given that she cheated her way to presidency. Maybe, they are all part of the cheating machinery.

Ang magnakaw ng kahit na anumang bagay ay may katumbas na kaparusahan. Ngayon, pinanapalabas ng maka-Gloria na dapat mag sorry na lang kung ikaw ay mahuling nagnakaw. Ang tanong, “tama po ba ang magnakaw?” Tama ba o Mali. ‘Yan ang dapat nilang sagutin ng wala ng karagdang paliwanag na dapat isunod diyan.

Hindi naman po siguro tatawagan ni Gloria si Garcillano para tanungin o kunsultahin kung papaano niya mapapataas ang height niya. Kung ganon ang ibig niyang tukuyin, aba mas dapat nating hanapin si Garci kasi isang siyang dakilang scientist na nakakapagpataas ng mga maliit na tao. Hehehehe….

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emie

July 14th, 2005 at 4:45 pm

I guess if GARCI and ONG finally come’s out and combine their knowledge on this anomaly, I guess thats the time that the avid supporters of GMA will realize that they’re leader is a cheater.. so dapat ang ipagdasal natin e lumabas itong dalawang key personality na to, and sabihin ang totoo sa taong bayan.. diba?

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eyesWIDEopen

July 14th, 2005 at 4:46 pm

guys visit txpower.org and get a good laugh at various ringtones. :)

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Chihiro

July 14th, 2005 at 4:46 pm

wag kaying umasa ke Garci dahil tuta yan ni GMA. he will save his own hide than tell hr truth.

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emie

July 14th, 2005 at 4:56 pm

who knows chichiro.. marealize ni garci na hindi nya madadala hanggang hukay kung ano man ang naibayad sa kanya ni GMA.. me mga bumabaliktad na tuta ni GMA, we’ll never now he could be one next time

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muaddib

July 14th, 2005 at 4:59 pm

The question of why GMA is still being supported by a lot of people is simple, lahat ng mga ito obviously eh nakikinabang sa ninakaw nyang position.

Senators and Congressmen: A lot of our lawmakers support the president because kahit na ano gawing austerity measure ng gov’t to cope with the fiscal crisis eh “no-touch” ang pork barrel ng mga honorables na ito. What they did back then na lilimitahan daw yung CDF nila was just pure PR

Military and Police: Hindi nyo po ba napapansin na andami daming mga higher officials ng dalawang government agencies na ito questionable ang properties and assets? Ano na ba nangyari ke Gen. Garcia? Malinaw na nakikinabang ng husto ang mga sangay ng pamahalaan na ito para gumawa ng kanya kanyang diskarte sa pangungurakot without fear of persecution

Appointed officials: Numero uno dito si secretary wangwang (ayon ke Arnold Clavio) na pinagkautangan ng loob ni GMA sa congress nung kina-canvass ang mga boto. Silang dalawa ni kiko ang tandem ng “noted-noted” if all of you may recall. Isa na rin si Sec. Defensor na binali n lng lahat ng sagrado mapagtakpan lng ang obvious na kasinungalingan ng boos nya. Eh ano ngayn, malakas nmn kurakot sa DENR salamat sa position na binigay ni ma’am. At marami pang iba…

Mayors and other local officials: Hawak sila sa leeg ng chief executive dahil ang dispensation po ng pondo para sa mga LGUs eh at her disposal. O wag nyo na kong kontrahin at alam natin ang totoo.

Kaunti pa lang po itong example ko… I’m sure PCIJ can pick up from this at sila na bahala magbigay as to what extent ang pakikinabang ng mga supporters ni GMA sa pagkakaupo nya ngayn. Nakakatuwa lng isipin na wala ang simpleng mamayan sa listahan ng mga nakikinabang kung sakali

So wag na po tyo magtaka bakit parang bingi sa katotohanan ang mga taong ito. Yan daw ang mahirap makarinig, yung nagbibingi bingihan…

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onyd

July 14th, 2005 at 5:06 pm

Even if there was no direct quote or item in the tapes that President Evil did not order cheating [dagdag bawas], the mere fact that she has knowledge of this practice and did not blow the whistle makes her guilty as hell.

The bar of integrity is much, much higher for a public official – presidente pa naman iyan.

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pleigh

July 14th, 2005 at 5:08 pm

pano babaligtad si garci eh diba nasa custody nga raw ni ebdane??

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cyrus

July 14th, 2005 at 5:23 pm

Since day 1 of GMA presidency, she had been corrupting & destroying institutions like AFP, PNP, NBI, DOJ , SUPREME COURT & now COMELEC

She must resign to safe our country & by the way, what happen to beso beso Ex -Sec. Perez million dollar deposit? He’s one lucky S.O.B

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rose

July 14th, 2005 at 5:24 pm

The administration keep on saying their are no one capable of replacing GMA,,,WOW

85 million filipino NO ONE

I was very impress by the comment individual who could be the next president of our beloved country.

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pleigh

July 14th, 2005 at 5:32 pm

rose said –>The administration keep on saying their are no one capable of replacing GMA,,,WOW…85 million filipino NO ONE

dami jan, ayaw lang sumabak sa magulong mundo ng politika

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d_entrep

July 14th, 2005 at 5:43 pm

out of 85 million lahat ba kurap lahat ba bobo
kawawa naman ang pilipino wala nang pwedeng ipalit kay GMA

the country that i love seems to be hopeless
si FVR lang talaga ang pag asa ko na umunlad ang Pilipinas.
sana naging Tatay ko sya o kamag anka ko kasi
ang laking impluwensya sa Politika sa Militar at sa Ekonomiya.
sana matuloy ang parliamentary form of government sa Pilipinas
GMA as President.FVR as the Prime Minister…

what kind of a logic is this ayaw daw nila na two presidents in jail
kung yung isa sa Panay eh di yung isa sa Pampanga ikulong whats wrong with that di naman sila magkatabi ng SELDA

yung isa jueteng lang…yung isa jueteng na mandaraya pa..

BASTA FVR ikaw ang IDOL ko pag laki ko at makatapos ako ng abugasya
at magkapera tatakbo ako sa Politika…Gagayahin kita presidenteng hindi nakaupo..

FVR yuo’re my IDOL pag nagaya kita gagawin ko namang SEMI SOCIALIST REPUBLIC ang PINAS kasi malamang maging PARLIAMENTARY na tayo alam ko pangarap mo yan matutupad na….

GOD BLESS FVR…

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Ink

July 14th, 2005 at 6:26 pm

You are right, Lavinia for noting that “there is still no incriminating evidence of outright cheating in the conversation. There was no direct order by Arroyo for Garcilliano to cheat for her. Your understanding of the conversation is still a matter of perception and heavily depends on your own biases.”

With few exceptions, most people equate PGMA’s sorry with cheating/rigging the votes. For clarity’s sake, she was apologizing for her calling Garci–an act that is done in bad taste. I am also wondering why most people, PCIJ included (shame for your “leading the witness” treatment of “facts”), appear too accept, beyond reasonable doubt, of the authenticity of the recordings–enough to draw their conclusions and conjectures. Where is the real recording?

Atty. Paguia claims that he exposed this for the sake of truth. In fairness, he was truthful enough to accept that anothe reason why he did it is because of spite. Anyway, Atty, Paguia probably forgot that if truth is said with bad intent, it is no different than a lie. He also came up with the convenient excuse that he edited it because the recording was too long and he wanted to highlight certain points. Good intention, but he ended up concting a propaganda material starring himself. (Maybe, this is why “pride” is considered one of the seven, deadly sins). When he accused that the whole government apparatus is under Gloria’s palm, was Atty. Paguia giving a glimpse of how they, during the time of Erap looked and treated the whole government apparatus?

I maintain that the current crisis is basically rooted on subjective rumor-mongering. The same one that victimized Erap (but eventually led to his downfall due to the ineptitude of his handlers and mismanagement of his political allies and advisers). Eventually, he is having his day(s) in court but as an accused who already bear the cross of subjective public indictment. After Erap, we now have Gloria. After Gloria, we will have another, and another, and another crisis like this.

Thus, to think that this crisis will go away if Gloria will resign gives too much credit to the “cretin” of Malacanang. The real task is to find a way on how to stop the recurrence of this crisis (where Erap and Gloria) are mere footnotes.

I also do not want to infuse, at this point, arguments that border on morality and integrity to the current crisis. If this is done, then, there will be nobody left in both the anti and pro gloria camps. I was outraged over Gloria’s phone call, in the same way that I am outraged over the hypocrisy of some people in the opposition. When Susan Roces said that a liar is a sibling of a thief, I was expecting–a Mayor in Metro Manila, tax evading actors and actresses, Marcoses, Chavit Singson, beneficiaries of Marcos’s plunder, torturers, peace bond gainers, et alii–to cringe and strike Susan Roces dead.

The CBCP letter applies to everybody, and particularly to members of both “camps.” To examine one’s conscience is not only for Gloria, but for all who are directly and indirectly involved in this recurring political play.

The line that divides both camps is not about being pro or anti Gloria. Both camps are just the same. There is no iota of vindication for Erap or for Marcos, Jinggoy, or evenm Chavit. If the chismis and popular belief that PGMA cheated are all true, then one can conclude that PGMA is just one of them–a liar, cheat, and thief.

To the opposition and Pro Glorias, remember what Rizal said:

“The glory of saving one’s country is not for him (or her) who has contributed to its ruin.”

Stop invoking the mantra that what you are doing is for the sake of truth and/or of the people, knowing fully well that only God can validate your respective intents.

For the Catholic clergy, it is naive (or spiritually disconsoling) for you to believe that truth will come out in a council (or venue) whose investigators are no different or even worse than the criminal they are investigating. Tell the public how some of you are getting perks from government officials, especially during Erap’s time (plane fares, etc.). What you have proven so far is that men of God also subscribe to Machiavelli. You know how to forge alliances TO ANYBODY or ANY GROUP in your quest to find and expose the truth. The end, really, justifies the means.

Thanks to the media who hide behind the shield of “truth seekers and disseminators” while in deed, they are merely prostituting facts and truth for the sake of ratings, deadlines, and pet peeves. Inured as most of us are from the prevailing system of lying and cheating, Truth and Integrity are matters that might be too heavy for us to carry, much less understand or recognize.

Mabuhay pa kaya ang Pilipinas?

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usda_gradeameat

July 14th, 2005 at 6:57 pm

Nais ko lang po sanang malaman doon sa mga nagsasabing sundin ang Constitution ek ek….ganyan din ba ang paninindigan ninyo noong 1986 at 2001?.o dahil manok nyo lang ang namimiligro kaya ginagamit nyong panangga ang Constitution?…MANINDIGAN PO TAYO SA KATOTOHANAN….

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vince

July 14th, 2005 at 7:14 pm

I want GMA to resign but I am also for the Constitution. I want her to resign voluntarily and if possible without any mounting pressure from anybody especially from the different factions from the opposition. I wish, hope and pray that she voluntarily resigns not for anything else but because of her conscience. That she knows deep in her heart that she violated the trust of the Filipinos. That she knows she had influenced that Comelec official to cheat for her, and that is a moral issue that she has to be accountable to God and to her people. But more than that, I wish she will resign because she has accepted the fact with open eyes, that she will no longer have the ability to push forward all her good economic agenda for our country no matter how beautiful it is and sincere she will now be.

But on the other hand, I know also that this is just the ideal scenario and I am just hallucinating that this will ever happen. GMA will never resign just by her own conscience not only because of her addiction to power but more on the human nature of fear that if ever she lost this power, she will loose her immunity. If this happens, she will be facing tons of criminal cases which could end her up to jail just like ERAP.

But just like with all the survey shows, Filipinos have lost their trust to GMA by as much as 82% already. It is a big misconception that since only few people are joining rallies of the opposition, then only few people really dislike GMA. For one, there are many thinking Filipinos that do no like also the leading personalities in the United Opposition. Many have the same stand as I have mentioned above. We want GMA to step down in a peaceful and voluntary means and transfer the power to the declared VP which is a constitutional means. This is not what the United opposition wanted. One must learn to distinguish the two. The silent majority therefore despite its strong prayer for GMA to step down in a smooth transition, would never on the other hand support any movement that could lead us to even more turmoil just to kick Arroyo out of Malacanang.

Arroyo has now even have more..more ..more and more excess baggages to deal with..She and together with her team will be having difficulty to focus on their strategic action for our country because they will always have no choice but to give more of their time dealing with the dirty games of politics just to stay in power…Because she is now more indebted to a lot of people who came to the rescue during her crisis, the more that she can no longer made an independent decision. And with this, the more fragile her administration from the continuous criticism. With this situation also, she has to give many favors to others which could on the other hand disfavor the others to whom she is also indebted. The result is even a continuous struggle of power with the different factions within her supporters.. And in a not too later time..one or more of these factions will also bolt out..

I even campaigned for GMA within my sphere of influence during the election because at that time I believe her..But one good thing.. this “belief” did not progress to faith..because once it has progressed to that, it is called “locked up” . This means, the state where one became imprisoned with a strong faith to individual or belief that sometimes despite its obvious defects he or she could not just see it..But one good sign about us Filipinos..most of us are not locked up as majority of us believe that GMA is accountable and hopefully she will learn to face it in due time. That is why despite the very weak position of the impeachment case that will be served against her, we have no choice but to welcome it..It is a constitutional means..meanwhile let us tighten our belt..as it would surely be a roller coaster ride for all of us Filipinos in the next coming months.. But again I am also in a dilemma, I wanted her to resign immediately to spare our country to its further state of chaos..but will I demand and shout it to the whole world at the expense of being accused as HYPOCRITE ?. It may be a “lapse of judgement” but perhaps in this situation, I would rather be called hypocrite than a person with no stand and be called APATHETIC .

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Naz

July 14th, 2005 at 7:32 pm

Lone_Patriot. Hey bro. Again, just want to state that I did not mean to offend you. And If I did. I sincerely apologize. But those were my words. ^_^ Well, to those guys who thought that the opposition people were paid cash. Nope, they werent. Yes, they were paid, but they were paid with food. From a friend who attended. The opposition group paid the rallysts not with cash. But with free water, tocino, sinigang and tapa and fried rice. Aswell as those sweet corn chips. But they also had Kanyang-kanyang bayad.

Well to analyze the peoples voices. I think most of them are just really tired of this political history of ours. Again.. and again. I dont know why the media only covered the peoples voices on WHO THEY WANT TO RUN. Rather than their inner reasons to rally. Most people I know want change. For me, I see this as a great oppurtunity. To make things right this time. We can tackle alot of things. I will not stick to such comments as “pilipino talaga.” We aint to the dogs. kaya lang.. the opposition should be clear about their statements more. And another thing that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.I really hope they dont disrespect who they are opposing. Even if such allegations surround Ms. GMA , 1st family, malacanang and etc. They should stick with it. And not disrespect or in filipino, “binababoy.” No matter their mistakes they are still people. They still have rights to respect. But again, i will state. Justice must serve proper! But ofcourse, this is just my opinion. ^_^

Godbless guys! Ingats!

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rich___ong

July 14th, 2005 at 7:37 pm

OPLAN save the Queen has begun
To kick it off is MISTER CHAVIT SINGSON and his TAPES
What a waste of taxpayer’s money.
That’s the problem now. If GLoria doesn’t go. ALL the taxes will be used to PROP UP her image.
SO the E-VAT will be used up just to save GMA

SO LONG PHILIPPINES

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pleigh

July 14th, 2005 at 7:39 pm

hey guys, check this out…chavit had released,according to inq7.net, a taped conversation between erap and nazareno about their plan to unseat arroyo from presidency…hehehe

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pleigh

July 14th, 2005 at 7:40 pm

someone is wanting to be a hero again…ano ba yan!!!masyado na ata obvious ang intention ng nairelease nung mama na gusto ng ilocos republic…

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usda_gradeameat

July 14th, 2005 at 7:44 pm

nga pala ho…pano ba makakakuha ng maraming kopya ng mga tape/cd? mag shoshowdown dito sa San Francisco ang ABS-CBN at GMA 7 sa July 23….lahat ata ng artista jan sa pilipinas, pupunta dito…magandang pagkakataon ito para may makapamudmod ng mga CD ng makapag pasya ang taong bayan….MANINDIGAN SA KATOTOHANAN!

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eyesWIDEopen

July 14th, 2005 at 7:58 pm

usda_gradeameat you can download the cd right here at PCIJ and you can burn them in your cd burner.

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darksider81

July 14th, 2005 at 8:16 pm

to all of those hippocrites still defending gloria arroyo. here’s all i can say to you,, WAKE UP!!! do u think that it would be for the best to patch up a wound with the help of a leech? i for one can say that the past presidential election was one that was tainted with money and cheating, so just because u distrust what the opposition is offering, that ud rather stay with someone who bleeds the economy dry, then go hole urselves with her in an island or something…. enuf of this!!halatang halata naman that she cheated the elections, if ur not convinced listen to the god damn tapes and hear the content, iam frm the gov’t sector and believe it or not now pa lang the administration groups are recruiting people to go to ther rally they intend to show this saturday, maganda nga yun, para pag nagkaubusan ng pera sa central bank at nag cry foul na ang dbm, then ul know, as for FVR , he’s only protecting GMA to prevent his long silenced for cases be ressurected and prosecute him, gonzales? he should resign his post as DOJ secretary and have himself apponted as head of the PSG..sobra na what these crime syndicate members are doing to our country…remember, u done heal a cancer by taking care of a tumor, the best way is to always slice it of!!

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tobebs

July 14th, 2005 at 8:46 pm

Gloria Arroyo should fire DOJSec. siRAULo Gonzales for his irresponsible comments on former pres. Cory Aquino and her daughter Kris. Lubog na nga ang administrasyong ito, lalo pang pinapalubog ni Gonzales. Ma karma ka sana sa kayabangan mo.

Its now very obvious that the president is not sincere in asking for the resignation of her cabinet. What she merely did was to fill up those positions vacated by the Hyatt 10 cabinet members and retained those SIPSIP to her.

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ederic@cyberspace » Blog Archive » The President Must Resign Now — UP Diliman University Council

July 14th, 2005 at 9:11 pm

[…] If you listen to the tapes–or read its transcript–you’ll know that the phrase “pagpapataas sa inyo” that Garcillano said to Arroyo, as de Quiros wrote earlier, does not refer to trying to increase her height. And when you hear the president saying “yung dagdag, yung dagdag,” to a Comelec official, you know she’s not telling the truth when she said she did not cheat in last year’s election. […]

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Piercing Pens » Blog Archive » “Yung Dagdag…”

July 14th, 2005 at 9:17 pm

[…] The PCIJ Blog yesterday featured an interesting addendum to the Hello Garci: the voice believed to be that of the President muttering “Namfrel does not tally…pero yun nga, yung dagdag, yung dagdag” in one of her phone conversations with Garci. […]

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rodimus1000

July 14th, 2005 at 9:20 pm

kaya nga nag-sorry na for her “lapse of judgment” e.
hindi naman niya alam na nawiretapped siya. kung alam niya e di hindi na sana siya nakipagusap kay Garci. o iniba sana boses niya.

we do not need an apology. we need an explanation.
explain kung ano ang purpose nung paguusap na un.
kung tapos na nga daw ang proclamation according to her, bakit kailangan pa bantayan ang boto.

baka naman ang sinasabi daw niyang “dagdag” e dagdagan ang pagbabantay sa boto.

may nagescape pa sa US para maiwasan ang issue ng jueteng.

tsk tsk

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liv_urlife

July 14th, 2005 at 9:22 pm

This info is for Ms. Sheila Coronel. Just a piece of info regarding Sandra Cam. My relative lives with her kc kababayan nmin siya . She says, sandra cam is cuddling a lot of suspicious characters in her house, including the killer of Masbate Espinosa and some other ex-convicts, na nakatira lang sa kanya.. Sandra is a girlfriend of Masbate Gov. Co, that’s why she is trying to spare Gov. Co from jueteng investigation by declaring that Masbate is jueteng free. She resides in a house or condo which Mrs. Imelda Marcos owns. Maraming modus operandi itong si sandra cam according to my relative including being a bag lady.She is also a friend of Juan Ponce Enrile.My relative left the place already upon the advise of her father na police chief din ng town nmin dahil natatakot sa situation ng anak sa poder ni Sandra.

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rich___ong

July 14th, 2005 at 9:39 pm

As Bishop Cruz said we are all sinners. As long as you tell the truth of what you know that is the important thing. Kahit nag kipag sex si Cam ni Mr. Mike Arroyo. She still hannded the money to Mikey and Iggy Arroyo

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ParengPepe

July 14th, 2005 at 10:07 pm

Denial is not a river in Egypt. What goes around comes back around.

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dumdum_dumb

July 14th, 2005 at 10:09 pm

I believe its pretty obvious what the president and garci are speaking of, its all about rigging the election. May kasabihan sa tagalog na mahihirap makita ang nagbubulal-bulagan at lalong mahirap makarinig ang nagbibinbingihan. Para saan pa ang truth commission na hiningi ng iba diyan? Para baguhin ang katotohanan na si Gloria ang nasa tape at wala siyang ginawang labag sa morality and its just a lapse in judgement.Tama Na, sobra na palitan na.

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vicpedia

July 14th, 2005 at 10:17 pm

This is what i think…
Lets just follow the rule of law.Everyone of us convince our respective congressmen to expedite the impeachment proceedings. Thats the reason why we voted for them—-to be our voice in congress. It should not be what they think or believe in OR if they are pro or anti adminsitration. They should voice out what their constituents are clamoring about. IN this way, it would really reflect the voice of the Filipino people. Thats the real democracy. Akala kasi ng ibang congressmen, kapag binoto na natin sila…bahala na sila mag decide para sa atin.. which should not be the case.

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tobebs

July 14th, 2005 at 10:20 pm

Kapag si KONSENSYA ang nagsasalita bihira ang nakakarinig pero kapag si MONEY ang nagsasalita lahat nakikinig.

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agol_78

July 14th, 2005 at 10:21 pm

may bago ngayon na tape, X-TAPE ni Chavit. Sus! pinalilito pa ko ng isa pang sinungaling at magnanakaw.

napakinggan ko rin ang x-tape nya, kng si erap man un, wala akong nakitang pandaraya don usapan lng ng resulta. at d ako kombensido si erap yon.

ung about sa pandak, mali ang script eh. kaya ko gawin ang mag splice ng audio. parating “oo” sagot na sinasabing erap don, pwede lng ako kumuha ng recorded public conversation ni erap na nagOO at doctorin ang audio at ako ang boses ng lalaki. computer lng katapat nyan napakadali. d pa nga sigurado si chavit kng sino si tanda. erap lng alam nya.

epaauthenticate na nila para kng peke hay naku lalo sila ididiin ng taong bayan. di naman kapaniwala si chavit ngayon kahit pakikinggan ko sya magsalita.

kng authentic naman hindi naman si erap ang issue dito, ano gagawin nila kay erap? ang pandaraya ni GMA, at ang economiya ng bansa issue naman ah. wag ng ilihis sana ng administration ang usapin.

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eyesWIDEopen

July 14th, 2005 at 10:53 pm

erap is challenging them to have the tape authenticated. :)

hahah. what a funny game.

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masha

July 14th, 2005 at 10:57 pm

yan ang tactic ni gma ngayon. guluhin ang usapan para matakpan ang pagkakahuli sa kanyang pandaraya.

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zorros

July 14th, 2005 at 11:12 pm

This info is for liv_urlife… Meron ako ka town mate ang pangalan eh Chavit Singson. Ang balita dito eh marami na siyang ipi-natumba. Tapos makikita mo yung bahay niya, napakalaki at fortified pa- para bang isang military camp.. At ang balita eh, siya din ang nag-patumba duon sa aming COA auditor na mag-tetestify sana as defense witness para kay Pres. Erap sa kasong “plunder”.

At eto pa, ang ugong-ugong eh siya ay isa sa major partner sa nagdedevelope sa malaking parte ng lote sa may bandang pasig. Napakarami siyang pera tapos ang kanyang kasama na chikas eh medyo “starlet/model” quality. Minsan nga nakita ko siya kasama ang mga chikas (dalawa sila), ang tutuo eh napatingin ako duon sa mga chikas dahil sa kanilang kagandahan, tapos napansin ko ay isang matandang maitim, na medyo bilugan ang tiyan, matingkad ang POMADA sa buhok tapos maitim pa – eh si Chavit pala iyon. Medyo tumayo balahibo ko sa takot at bigla na lang ako tumalikod.

At eto pa napakarami niyang mga “Bodyguard” nuong huli ko siya nakita eh mga higit 15 ang kasama niyang nakabarong….

Hinde ko rin matiis na bumilib ke Lakay Chavit – nalaing isuna pero mas Bilib ako sa mga taong naniniwala pa rin sa kanya. mwahaha.

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zorros

July 14th, 2005 at 11:23 pm

alb3ar said,
July 13, 2005 @ 9:57 pm

We had the Incredible Hulk expose of Nani Perez getting $2M. He was the President’s Justice Secretary. So who got the $12M dollars? Was this ever settled? No.

+++ So, what happend nga pala to Nani Perez and with that documents from a Swiss Bank. The inquiry from Swiss Bank is a collaborating evidence sana. The OMBUDSMAN is very slow in indicting NANI PEREZ ang dapat sa kanya eh PLUNDER case din and then Sandiganbayan.

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tome cruz

July 14th, 2005 at 11:34 pm

To the administrator: I think it is time to shut down this particular blog. It’s getting out of hand already.

Hindi na PCIJ ang dating ng mga comments. Parang TikTik na may halong People’s na.

See, pati ako nahawa na rin.

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Salvatore

July 15th, 2005 at 12:08 am

Administrator,

Don’t do what this tome cruz says. Hey you, who are you to inflict your prudishness on us?

Get out of this blog. We don’t really care. Who says this page has to be PCIJ-ish, Its a blog, get it? A reader’s blog!

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zorros

July 15th, 2005 at 12:23 am

Tiktik! what is titktik?????

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xanana

July 15th, 2005 at 12:24 am

I reviewed the tape again and again and I think I heard GMA telling Garci “would you make sure na hindi makakapagsalita yung isang tao…” before saying “yung dagdag…dagdag”.

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carping pinoy

July 15th, 2005 at 12:43 am

Ang Malungkot na OFW

Ako’y isang hamak na OFW lamang.
Boses ko’y ayaw pakikinggan.
Marahil s’guroy kaliwa’t kanang iringan,
Walang humpay na batikusan.

Dapat sana ako ay masaya
Dahil ang pera kong ipapadala,
Lumalaking parang dambuhala.
Dahil sa peso’y bumaba na.

Sige, sige! Mag-rally pa tayo!
Nang lalong sumadsad ang Peso.
Nakararaming Pilipino’y
Ito’y namay gusto.

Hingi ko lang wa’g nyo po
Kaming kalilimutan
Dahil remittance namin
Ay bumubuhay sa Inang Bayan

Ilang beses na naming napatunayan,
Asian Financial Crisis
Ang Pinas ang di masyadong naapektuhan.
Kami bayani na dapat tatandaan.

Ako’y nalulungkot at nagdalamhati
Sa Pinas ayaw ng employer kung puti.
Pag-hire nila dito’y masama’t
Walang ikakabuti.

Tanong ko kung bakit?
Gulo daw ay laging nang-aakit.
Hindi naman nila nasabing dahil sa ‘Gloriagate’
At lalong hindi sa jueting na ginigiit.

Sayang ang Pinoy ang ambisyo’y makalabas,
Biktima sila sa gulong dinadanas.
Sabagay matagal na tayong bagsak.
Ikinalulungkot ko’y Pinoy rin ang nagpapa-unlak.

Malaking boses o hindi, ito’y di basehan,
Matalino ma’t mangmang ay wala sa usapan.
Ang malaking tanong ko’y ating pag-isipan.
Pinoy ano bang maitutulong mo sa ekonomiya
ng ating BAYAN?

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jt2k6

July 15th, 2005 at 1:58 am

Sound enhancement = Doctored tape

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Chihiro

July 15th, 2005 at 2:05 am

Chavit’s tape = “Authentic” tape
Bunye’s tape = “Authentic” tape
Chavit’s tape + Bunye’s tape = Desparation to woo public opinion

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Pinoy OFW

July 15th, 2005 at 5:48 am

HAIL GMA!!!!sya ang paborito nang mga FIL-AMS kasi nga naman kung di dahil sa kanya hindi tataas ang value nang $………pu-$$^%&*^^&%&^- talaga..

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rich___ong

July 15th, 2005 at 6:46 am

Sound enhancement = Doctored tape

Its just turning the volume higher!!!!! Is that Doctoring???????????
I just HOPE the tapes would be handed over to the US Embassy as soon as possible and let their experts analyze this to prove beyond reasonable doubt.

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batong-buhay

July 15th, 2005 at 7:40 am

Noong araw pagkatapos maglaro ng basketbol, kami ng mga ka-klase ko ay umi-inom ng sa-malamig na buko. Matapos maubos at sa tinding uhaw, sasabihin namin sa tindero, “yung dagdag, yung dagdag.” Sa kaso naman ni GMA nasabi naman niya “yung dagdag, yung dagdag” dahil din sa matinding uhaw… sa kapangyarihan.

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chuckybolts

July 15th, 2005 at 8:02 am

Alecks, it seems that all my comments from yesterday have been deleted from the blog, except for one. I find that insulting.

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chuckybolts

July 15th, 2005 at 8:08 am

It also seems that you know a thing or two about pc’s. Nice attempt at sending me the virus, Alecks. Just who is your boss?

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chuckybolts

July 15th, 2005 at 8:16 am

Nice copy of Kuang 2, Alecks. Does your boss know what you do for fun on the side??

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chuckybolts

July 15th, 2005 at 8:27 am

Alecks, none of my tcp ports are open to you. Did you know that what you’re doing is a crime? Aren’t you supposed to be a professional?

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Chihiro

July 15th, 2005 at 8:40 am

uy ano ba yan. may nagpapadalahan na ba ng virus dito?

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 8:41 am

gosh!just read in the news na me expose na naman si mr. chavit, goodness, daming lumalabas na wiretap.. paikliin na lang ang diskusyon.. parusahan lahat ng nagkasala.. including erap and GMA..

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 8:43 am

I think we should really watch our words muna before posting, I admire PCIJ thats why I joined this exchaning of thoughts.. I hope everyone practice responsible exression of opinion..

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d_entrep

July 15th, 2005 at 10:39 am

Lumabas na naman yung isa sa mga IDOL ko bukod kay FVR at JDV
itong si Manong Chavit….Inya ngay…

paglaki ko gagayahin ko kayo…
at malamang pag dumami na ang mga taong gumagaya at imiidolo sa inyo sa Pinas,malamang
maging barren land ang Pinas dahi un inhabitable na dahil sa dami ng buhaya..hehhehehe

pwede mag sinungaling basta mag sorry ka..
pwede magnakaw wag ka lang papahuli.
pwede maging presidente kahit di nakaupo
pwede bayaran ang tao matino para magin mali
pwede mo bilhin ang hustisya
and sarap sa Pinas lahat pwede

why dont you all people leave this country
and do something good for the people…

kawawa naman talaga ngayon ang mga kabataan
ngayon na katotohanan ang ipinaglalaban nila malamang di sila
mag wagi naawa ako sa mga taga UP,La Salle,UST at iba pang mga
kabataan ngayon na hindi kabilang sa mga nasabing paaralan na ipinaglalaban ang katotohanan ang moralidad..
ngayon mulat na kayo sa tunay na katotohanan ay saka ninyo
hindi makakamit ang tagumpay…ganon talaga ang buhay…

sa mga taong naooffend sa BLOG sites ng PCIJ
wag kayong magbasa ng readers comment better yet
dont read PCIJ…basahin mo Inquirer at doon ka mag comment…
we are all entitled to our own opinion
this is a free country…if not we are all bought..hehehee

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Alecks Pabico

July 15th, 2005 at 12:50 pm

charliebolts/chuckybolts,

I am as surprised as you are to wake up this morning and find your nasty posts and email about the missing comments, and a virus to boot? Honestly, I don’t know what you’re talking about. I thought we already fixed the problem yesterday. You did find your comments posted here yesterday, right? Don’t know what happened since. All I did was to remove the duplicate posts. I even removed your IP address from the black list. If you notice, your new identity (chuckybolts) is able to post comments here. And I didn’t send you an email.

WIll try to find a way to restore the missing comments.

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Alecks Pabico

July 15th, 2005 at 12:56 pm

Unfortunately, charliebolts, the comments cannot be restored anymore under your name. I will just have to post them again.

This comment is from charliebolts:

Chihiro: Wow… now the people in Davao can say they sold their souls for a pack of cigarettes and a meal at Mcdonald’s…Hope they can live with themselves.

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archi88

July 15th, 2005 at 12:58 pm

special allotment release order…. special allotment release order… pcij should investigate how gloria uses this documents to toe congressmen, governors and mayors in line.

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Alecks Pabico

July 15th, 2005 at 12:58 pm

This comment is from charliebolts:

I think that anyone pro or anti PGMA that accepts money to rally should realize that they are selling their souls to the Devil. May God help you.

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Alecks Pabico

July 15th, 2005 at 1:01 pm

This comment is from charliebolts:

Emie: Hello???? Maybe you should start your own country where people are guilty until proven innocent?? Have you ever read the Bible, where it says that people should have a right to a fair trial?? This isn’t a trial, this is a LYNCHING !!!! And does ANYONE have a comment on the fact that 80%+ of the people that are rallying in Makati haven’t even HEARD the tapes???? Have you???? It makes me sick that so many people in the Philippines think they are doing what is best for the country, as EVERY SINGLE FINANCIAL RATING COMPANY IS LOWERING YOUR SCORES TO NEGATIVE!!!! You aren’t helping yourselves, you are killing yourselves softly, and don’t even know it !!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE !!!!!!!

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Alecks Pabico

July 15th, 2005 at 1:02 pm

This comment is from charliebolts:

One more thing… In the USA, it’s illegal to wire tap a communication device without a court order, or in the case of no court order, it is not allowed without the permission of the person using the communication device… Aren’t there laws in the Philippines that protect a person’s right to privacy??? Is there no such thing as freedom of speech in the Philippines??? Is everyone blind to the fact that PGMA was recorded ILLEGALLY, and that the tapes should never have been made, never mind released to the public??? As far as I’m concerned, the agent who recorded the tapes should be shot for treason!!! He’s done nothing but destroy lives, and cause chaos!!!

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masha

July 15th, 2005 at 1:15 pm

well at least 2 legal experts on constitutional law (fr bernas and dean pangalangan) have already given their opinion that the tapes may and must be played. they say that the right to information is paramount, and that the wiretapping issue is subservient to this right. laos na yan issue of the admissibility of the tapes.

since it seems that the administration had asked the isafp to bug garci, it should be gma that you should have shot and finally rid us all of this pest.

here are the links to the opinions of

fr bernas
http://news.inq7.net/opinion/index.php?index=2&story_id=41611&col=75

dean pangalangan
http://news.inq7.net/opinion/index.php?index=2&story_id=41976&col=115

the sc, if it wants scholarly opinion on constitutional matters, has asked these 2 to give their take as amici curiae.

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javajoe

July 15th, 2005 at 1:16 pm

i hate to say it but Charliebolts is right. we are shooting ourselves in the foot. While all these things are going on, economically we are going downhill. So what if gloria said dagdag… i challenge anybody to say with absolute certainty that the other candidates did not cheat!!!

bottomline .??? its the economy. In the US gas is around 3 dollars gallon but because of the strong economy people is not that bothered. Over here because of our messed up economy any peso increase in pump prices spells doom.

I m tired of hearing the fact that gloria admitted or apologized. Whatever it was that she did it is over and move on. For once i challenge everybody to “ask not what your country can do for you but ask what you can do for your country.” Mahal ko ang Pilipinas … think about it, meditate on it, do you really feel it????

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masha

July 15th, 2005 at 1:30 pm

which candidates are you talking about that cheated too? name them so we can take a look into it. ang problema with gma ay merong tape na nag immortalize ng kanyang unmistakable tenor.

i beg to differ on americans not worrying about their gas prices. it’s always in their news. concern for it is growing and steps are being undertaken to consume this commodity wisely. realize of course that that’s why they went to war.

the jfk quote should be used on gma herself. she should let go because she’s doing the country harm by hanging on.

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lavinia

July 15th, 2005 at 1:43 pm

Yes, I agree with Javajoe, Let us put this behind us and move on. This fighting is not doing us any good…it is negatively affecting our economy. Besides, politicians are not known to be honest especially the accusers.

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 1:47 pm

but guys, are we just going to ignore this thing, everytime GMA commits mistake are we just going to put this all behind and move on?.. Sa laki ng tax na kinakaltas sakin ng government, parang diko yata matatanggap na lagi na lang forgive and forget ang gagawin natin sa mga pagkakamali ni GMA, I mean yung tax na kinakaltas nila sakin na dapat sana e napupunta na lang sa bibig ng pamilya ko eh napupunta sa kanila, I am a responsible tax payer so dapat lang na isatisfy nila ang tao ng honest service..

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masha

July 15th, 2005 at 1:57 pm

buti kung pagkakamali lang emie. pandaraya is way beyond mere pagkakamali. paano na lang ang kabataan na nakakaintindi na ang presidente nila ay mandaraya. kung ikaw teacher, paano mo ipapaliwanag na ok lang ang mandaya. paano kung sa quiz mag cheat at isagot sa yo na bakit yung presidente ok lang mag cheat ako hindi.

we cannot as a nation tolerate something like this, not only because nakakasira at nakakainsulto siya ng pagkatao, but also because we are affirming a malfeasance and teaching by way of modeling the wrong thing to the youngsters who pretty soon will helm the government.

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koj

July 15th, 2005 at 1:59 pm

want for clarification from lawyers please: the experts (in constitutional law) are not the supreme court itself and if i’m not mistaken their opionions (admissability of the tapes) were given to congress who seek for it.

it is still the courts (up to the supreme court) who can decide its admissability. they may serve as amici curiae but its still the justices (of the supreme court as the final interpreters of the constitution) who will vote for its admissability.

chances are however that this question will arise when gma is charged under an impeachment court, which might make the ruling for it instead of the SC.

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Chihiro

July 15th, 2005 at 1:59 pm

Kaya di tayo umaasenso – pinapayagang mangyari ang mali.

Yung mga gustong kalimutan na lang ang paglapastangan ni Gloria sa boto ng tao ang hindi malinis ang hangarin. Wala na rin ba kayong honesty na natitira sa katawan? Sa mga nababasa ko sa mga posts nyo e mukhang wala na nga. Di ko alam kung in denial kayo o talagang DISHONESTY na rin ang gusto nyong pairalin sa bansa.

Buti na lang hindi lahat ng Pilipino ay kagaya ninyo. May pag-asa pa ang Bayan ko.

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masha

July 15th, 2005 at 2:05 pm

ilang sc justices ba ang inappoint ni gma? i can tell you that fr bernas and dean pangalangan’s credentials are far better than most of those in the sc. but you’re right they are the final interpreters of the law even though many a time they have made mistakes.

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timawang_batas

July 15th, 2005 at 2:08 pm

Javajoe, I dunno where are you coming from but allow me to answer your second challenge : “ask not what your country can do for you but ask what you can do for your country.”

I paid my taxes correctly and on time. some in advance, courtesy of the withholding tax, while others directly either through VAT, transfer tax, donor tax including municipal or local taxes. While other pinoys deliberately evade paying taxes.

I and my fraternal brothers do environmental and community services including holding of medical and legal clinics. While other pinoys may opt to sleep all day, all night not even moving their b_tts.

I also joined various group which advocates to putting stop to graft and corruption practices though some of the cases we filed are “sleeping” in their respective court of proper jurisdiction.

Now comes, the gloriagate scandal–I,personally, will not allow my right as a taxpayer and as a voter be trampled upon.

I will not definitely subscribe to your idea of “forgive and forget” per the case of gloria. Will you tell your children that it is all right to cheat because they will be forgiven anyway?

Do not use our “sagging economy” as an excuse to put stop to this constitutional exercise of free speech and expression. The same was used as one of the basis of ousting Erap and for Gloria, an economist-foreign trained and educated, to properly address–but failed.

Every year our unemployment and underemployment grow bigger and bigger.I tried, in my own little way, to help reducing it by infusing my hard earned-savings into a local business venture. But even before my business could start-off, I already spent a fortune in procuring all necessary permits.Not to mention the crocs and the vultures waiting for their share. I complained to proper agencies but apparently they cannot help, even gloria can’t help– ask Col. Bibit, custom’s collector of Cebu.

As to your first challenge on saying with “absolute certainty that the other candidates did not cheat”. May i request for a bill of particulars. This is vague as in vague. Who, in particular you are referring to? The one’s eho ran us presidential candiadate? senatorialables?representatives?mayors? councilors? and what is your concept of cheating?

While I duly respect your opinion, let me give you and unsolicited advise : Do and Act not like Mike Defensor, Your challenge will definitely be answered.

It is time for you to think..meditate..and feel..your would-be rebuttal.

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masha

July 15th, 2005 at 2:11 pm

in any case, i agree and it is logical that the public’s right to information far outweighs keeping the tapes under the rug under the protection of the right to privacy. we have the right to know what malfeasance is being committed by the supposed president and other high officials of the country who are ultimately answerable to the public who put them there.

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 2:12 pm

Kaya nga eh, Im wondering bakit ganun yung mga nasa government lagi na lang silang nagsasabing move on.. its the other way of saying itolerate ang pandadaya eh,

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masha

July 15th, 2005 at 2:16 pm

kasi emie masarap ang nasa poder. there’s a lot of moolah to be made. and dont forget the use of the wangwang…

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koj

July 15th, 2005 at 2:20 pm

judge not!

mistakes are only to people to which their decisions are not to their liking! i believe they are not beholden to gma or to anyone who appointed them. i still have faith in them…

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 2:20 pm

I am an OFW here in Japan working in an Engineering Firm, and every month almost P15t is deducted on my salary which goes to tax (coz im here on a business visa always), imagine 15t pesos goes to the government and i dont get any good service from them, na dapat sana e sa pamilya ko na lang napupunta. Now they are asking me to forgive and to move on, to what GMA has done to the filipino.. Goodness gracious.. di naman ako iginapang ng magulang ko para makapagtapos ng pag-aaral para lang magpadikta sa gobyerno na magbulag bulagan…..akala yata nila e tanga ang mga pilipino eh,

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masha

July 15th, 2005 at 2:25 pm

haha. that’s one of the first few things you learn in law school–that the supreme court makes mistakes.

already there is a hint of lobbying by the palace for the issuance of the tro against the implementation of the evat. this is not the 1st time that the palace has tried to influence the high court.

counting the appointees is just a practical recourse.

reality bites.

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koj

July 15th, 2005 at 2:29 pm

emie, tanong lng, ano ang difference ng business visa from working visa? pareho lng ba ‘to? salary mo ba natatanggap mo in peso or yen na?

i have friends kasi working abroad on working visas and taxes withheld from them goes to the govt of the country they are working. they have to file a separate itr (well some of them don’t) to report their income to the Phil.

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lantis123

July 15th, 2005 at 2:32 pm

So wont all please tell us who would want to have in malacanan as GMA’s replacement? Give names, dont just ask for GMA to resign. Kasi lagi na lang hanggang dun ang gusto ng mga nababasa ko dito. wala man lang nagsasabi or nasa suggest kung sino pwede ipalit. Some people even wrote that there are 85 million Filipinos and yet no viable replacement for GMA, so if you have suggestions, let us know.

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enlightened_pinay

July 15th, 2005 at 2:38 pm

Javajoe, i tried my best to meditate as you said “Mahal ko ang Pilipinas, we must all move on”. Pero hindi talaga. Just letting this pass is in no way a display of love for my country. Nakakahiya sa future generations pag nalaman nilang nangyari ‘to tapos wala tayong ginawa.

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Chihiro

July 15th, 2005 at 2:39 pm

Ano bang viable replacement ang sinasabi mo? Nandyan ang Consti. It’s about time na sundin natin ito to the letter. Mula 2001 lagi na lang itong binabalewala.

Pag wala na ba si GMA katapusan na ng mundo para sa yo?

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 2:43 pm

koj, if youre on a working visa, you will be exempted from paying tax to the government, pero pag business visa you are obligue to pay tax, i guess yung salary will depend on the company your working, in my company they’re the one’s paying the tax for us dito sa japan, pero sa philippine branch ng company namin (whch im originally from) whether we are sent abroad on a working or business visa, dollar rate ang salary namin..

on lantis inquiry kugn sino ang dapat na ilagay.. i suggest magkaron ng another election, let the people decide kung sino ang gusto nilang mamuno diba?

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carping pinoy

July 15th, 2005 at 2:44 pm

Well… I challenge anyone who can name any politician in the world who is very pure, without a sin, and without any hidden agendas. If you cannot name one, cause probably there is none! Then, we shall move on.

Im sick and tired of these very utopian search for a perfect government and a sinless president!

I am an OFW who still hope for the betterment of every Pinoy. Pero kung ganito lang palagi ang nakikita ko sa Pinas. Well, to hell with us all!

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 2:45 pm

or lets try kabayan.. lets give him a chance, tutal sya ang constitutionally successor ng presidency, pero kung di sya ok.. lets try another election.. let the people decide

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koj

July 15th, 2005 at 2:47 pm

lantis, a lot are willing, a lot are able but can’t win elections, fair or not fair…if opportunity arises, a lot will step up to the plate…

the reason why they can’t name names is that it’s secondary to their desire of getting rid of gma, and perhaps noli…

another reason is that, once they pick a candidate, the current admin, would waste no time in attacking him/her…

and third, since they came from different ideologies, chances are they cannot come up with a replacement that is acceptable to everyone. some groups would be alienated and would become the first (new) opposition.

that’s phil politics at its best or should i say worst…

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masha

July 15th, 2005 at 2:51 pm

pag nag resign ang presidente ang sabi ng constitution ang bise ang kapalit. ayaw man natin si noli, siya ang sinasaad ng batas na dapat maluklok sa pagka presidente. if we want be known for having respect for the rule of law, he has to be it. nasabi ko na ito. nag consensus tayo sa pag take effect ng constitution which provides for the line of succession in case of vacancy para nga di tayo mag spin the wheel (throw darts, toss coin etc) para matanto kung sino ang papalit. if we do not let noli take over then we might as well chuck the constitution altogether.

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lantis123

July 15th, 2005 at 2:52 pm

sa akin lang naman kasi, ang problema, kapag nagresign si GMA, there are still those ganid politicians that will do everything they can to oust GMA’s replacement (and it will start all over again, right?), even if its thru another election. Yes the Consti is there, but do these politikos and people who march and shout in the streets give a damn about it? They are the ones who wants to sit their candidates out right once GMA is ousted di ba? Ang problema kasi dito, walang natatalong candidate, lahat daw dinadaya. Ay sus….

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 2:58 pm

We are not asking for a sinless president naman eh, everybody commits mistake we say sorry and accept, pero tanggapin din natin na me kapalit na parusa even if we say sorry diba?..What the government wants the Filipino to do is to forgive and forget what GMA did and move on na lang.

But reading from the news, Im glad that the impeachment has at least slowly moving on, mukhang magkakaron na ng enough numbers ang lower house to vote for the impeachment of GMA eh, kasi the only worries we have diba is imamanipulate ng mga administration solon’s ang impeachment, if GMA insist of not resigning (siguro to the extent na ikadena nya ang sarili nya sa upuan, hahaha) siguro asikasuhin na lang ang impeachment case nya..

what do u think guys

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masha

July 15th, 2005 at 3:02 pm

hwag muna nating lihisin ang usapan sa mga kung sino ang may interes sa poder. step by step muna.

ang tanong ay karapat dapat pa bang manatili si gma sa malacanang ngayong alam nating nandaya siya? sa akin hindi.

again, ang problema kay gma, huling-huli siya. immortalized in tape siya. yung iba hollow howling lang.

susunod ang kung sino ang papalit. i’m in favor of the vice taking over in accordance with the constitution. nasa sa atin to make sure that the constitution is followed. we should muster public support for it.

kaya lang naman nagkakagulo lalo ay dahil patuloy si gma na kapit tuko sa posisyon niya. if gma resigns quietly, there is no reason why the constitution will not be followed. she can even make that as negotiating point for her stepping down. pag sapilitan siyang alisin, dyan magkakalabo-labo.

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 3:02 pm

I dont think Filipino’s are that stupid para payagang iupo ng mga taong yan ang gusto nila.. at the end of the day its still the filipino people who will decide kung sino ang gusto nilang leader,.. I understand Susan’s feelings but I dont agree putting her in Malacanang,.. I say we try Noli or better yet, have another election

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enlightened_pinay

July 15th, 2005 at 3:02 pm

Agree Emie. IMHO, there was a failure of election in last year’s polls. Lets do a snap election. For quicker and fraudless counting, lets utilize the computers that COMELEC spent millions of pesos on to be used supposedly for the 2004 national elections.

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Bullet

July 15th, 2005 at 3:06 pm

Sa nangyayari ngayon sa ating bansa, lahat ay hati-hati:

hati ang mga dating pangulo;
hati ang GMA Cabinet;
hati ang congreso at senado;
hati ang mga militar;
hati ang mga eskwelahan;
hati ang Makati Business Club;
hati ang mga simbahan ‘o’ religious grous;
hati ang mga dating tiga suporta ng Edsa 2;
hati ang mga labor unions;
hati ang taong bayan;

siguro dapat hatiin na natin ang bansang pilipinas!
ang PRO-GMA ay dapat tumira sa Visaya;
ang ANTI-GMA ay dapat tumira sa Mindanao;
ang mga nuetra ay dapat tumira sa Luzon;
siguro lahat ay masaya na.

Peace to all!!!

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d_entrep

July 15th, 2005 at 3:08 pm

In order for EVIL to triumph is for GOOD men to do nothing…
saan ko ba nabasa ito i believe it to be very useful nowadays…
pero malamang mag triump ang EVIL kasi ang mga GOOD men
wants us to move on.O ang mga GOOD men are all paid na…hehehe

THERE IS NO PEOPLE POWER FATIGUE ITS JUST THAT
THE COUNTRY IS MORE POORER THAN IN THE PAST.
AND POVERTY IS THE REASON WHY PEOPLE POWER HAS LOST ITS
APPEAL TO THE NATION…try to think on this…
EDSA 1 marami pang pera ang mga Pinoy they can afford to live a day or a week or even a month na walang work they have enough food
to last them the crisis.EDSA 1 lasted atleast 3 weeks
EDAS 2 may konti pang pera ang mga Pinoy they can afford to live a day or a week na walang work and enough food to
last them crisis.EDSA 2 lasted a week..

NGAYON SOBRANG HIRAP NA NG BUHAY SOBRANG POOR NA ANG MGA TAO.THAT THEY WOULD RATHER FIGHT FOR HUNGER THAN FIGHT FOR
FREEDOM.and i would hear the Masa the Midlle class na POOR na din
na sobrang layu na ng agwat ng mayaman sa mahirap.
their voice is magtrabaho na lang tayo…yun na ang syndrome…
IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE POWER NOT TO TRIUMPH.KEEP THEM POOR
SO THAT THEY WOULD THINK OF THEIR STOMACH RATHER THAN THEIR FREEDOM…

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 3:09 pm

Luzon, Visaya’s or Mindanano man ako mapunta kung si GMA pa rin ang nakaupo.. di pa rin ako masaya bro eh,

peace

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dugong pinoy

July 15th, 2005 at 3:11 pm

the tapes will keep on coming as this is the right time for the administration to start damage control.what happened in mindanao is just a simple business done by enterprising military officers.the wiretapped conversation was not done for this purpose.its main objective is to be used as a defence mechanism against the person who made business with them.in short,pera pera lang ang laban.sumablay lang ng may magsarili.the election is finished.nagkataon lang na yun may pinakamalaking pondo at makinarya ang talagang mananalo.when the counting of ballots started,that is the time na maraming yumaman dahil na rin sa ang Mindanao no matter how our officials shout here in MANILA na they have full control of it,is still bounded by its own rules of lawlessness.This may serve also as a lesson for each and every pinoy not to act too late if a problem is already clear and evident.Kapag itinuloy ang impeachment procedures at lumabas lahat ng operators na gumawa nito (kung buhay pa),The PHILIPPINES as a nation will finally get what each and everyone of us had been striving for.Why?dahil siguradong mauubos lahat ng pulitiko administration man o opposition and a new breed of Pinoys will emerge to pick up and rebuild the already stinking face of Philippine politics which at present is burrowing deeper into the mud.However,as a lyric of a legendary song tells it.It is really an IMPOSSIBLE DREAM.

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usda_gradeameat

July 15th, 2005 at 3:15 pm

Pag nawala si Gloria by force or voluntarily..ilagay si Noli..NGUNIT..HUWAG BALEWALAIN ANG PROTESTANG IHINAIN NI LOREN LEGARDA….kapag napatunayang nandaya si NOLI…sipain din at iluklok si LOREN..Kung napatunayang nanalo si NOLI ng walang daya…EDI TAPOS ANG USAPAN…..walang problema kung isang milyong beses tayong mag EDSA o AYALA…ang mahalaga ay maitama natin ang mga pagkakamali……….-MANINDIGAN sa KATOTOHANAN!

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pleigh

July 15th, 2005 at 3:22 pm

mejo malayo lang to friends…parang me narinig ako sa mga sinaunang conclave(pagpili ng bagong pope) eh meron syang choice para tanggapin ang posisyon na yun, kaya nga diba me hall of tears ata yun, dun sa sistine chapel.dun pagbibigyan ang naibotong papa na makapag isip at makapagdasal kung tatnggapin nya ang napakalaking responsibilidad…if i am not mistaken, merong isa na hindi tinanggap ang position…cguro dahil alam nyang hindi nya kaya ang responsibilidad…but later, the history will tell that this man became a saint…true?di ko maconfirm,baka mali lang pagkakarinig ko….but the moral of the story is that, hindi kasalanan ang pagbitaw o pagtanggap sa posisyon,bagkus,ikaw pa ang magsisilbing bayani…in the case of gma,kelangan nya lang talagang harapin lahat ng akusasyon sa kanya…cheers!
:)

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enlightened_pinay

July 15th, 2005 at 3:42 pm

Agree emie! I know this is already late, but IMHO COMELEC should declare a failure of elections in last year’s poll. GMA & Noli should resign, lets do a snap election, everyone qualified to be president should run, Noli can run, even Gloria herself can if she will still have the nerves to. Let the TRUE voice of the people be heard. If its true what they’re claiming that the silent majority still wants Gloria to stay, she will win. For quicker and fraud-less counting, lets utilize the computers that COMELEC spent a million pesos on which was supposed to be used for the 2004 elections.

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ginnylimbo

July 15th, 2005 at 3:44 pm

well, for madam PGMA to redeem the smallest credibility/integrity left in her being is for her to initiate the re-count of the recent presidential election – however tedious, complicated and expensive it may take… at least, the cloud of doubt on her presidency will, if not eliminated, be lessened – that is, if the result would really favor her.

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lantis123

July 15th, 2005 at 3:50 pm

I dont agree to have anymore EDSAs. Para na lang natin pinaglalaruan ang pulitika dito sa atin. Kapag ayaw natin sa pangulo, EDSA agad ang sigaw, ngayon nga AYALA na, When will this stop? Im willing to give due process to GMA, taxpayer din ako tulad ng ibang nagrereklamo. Like Cory said, let us make the ultimate sacrifice, let us all be spectators and not get into fights which politicians should be the ones fighting for us. If GMA is guilty, give her what she deserves, let Noli take her place. If you dont like Noli, I suggest you take your concern to Congress and not to the streets. Let us keep the holiness of PEOPLE POWER in its right place. Nood na lang tayo, wag na tayo magpadala o magpagamit sa mga pulitikong may kanya kanya rin namang interest.

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tobebs

July 15th, 2005 at 3:57 pm

I m tired of hearing the fact that gloria admitted or apologized. Whatever it was that she did it is over and move on. For once i challenge everybody to “ask not what your country can do for you but ask what you can do for your country.” Mahal ko ang Pilipinas … think about it, meditate on it, do you really feel it????

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javajoe

as you have implied i’ve thinked about it, meditated on it and tried to feel it the way what this famous commercial said “ISIPIN MO NA LANG HAM YAN” and the answers is “HINDE Eh”.

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zephyr5943

July 15th, 2005 at 4:35 pm

Naku, ang tigas ng mukha ni PGMA! Huling-huli na nandaya sobrang-sobra pa rin ang pagpapakita niya na parang wala talaga siyang kasalanan sa taumbayan. Nakakapanghinayang ang mga taong sumusuporta pa sa kanya tulad ni Sec. Bunye – nasira ang kredibilidad dahil sa pagpresinta ng mga fake na CD. Hindi ko alam kung nagbubulag-bulagan lang ang mga taong ito sa pagtatanggol kay PGMA.

How can PGMA still sleep soundly at night, facing the people looking like she is honest, fearless and flat-out righteous? Dapat magkusa na siyang bumaba, para naman may matirang dangal sa dugo niya. Sayang ang legacy ng kanyang ama.

Ang maganda talaga dyan, mag-resign na siya, pero kung magmamatigas, i-ammend ang impeachment complaint ni Atty. Lozano at madaliin ang paglilitis. Tingnan kung talagang nandaya si PGMA. Kung hindi, e di all is well and good (pero malabo ito), kung nandaya impeach right away and VP de Castro should ascend as President kasi yung ang nakasaad sa konstitusyon.

Kasi ngayon, parang ang mga pananaw ng tao ay pagnaalis si PGMA, wala ng pwedeng ipalit. Ang mga tanong, sino ang ipapalit? Simple naman ang kasagutan dyan, si Noli de Castro. Sige, sabihin na nating konti pa lang ang kanyang political experience at ang kanyang kaalaman sa pulitika. But, that doesn’t make him stupid. That doesn’t make him totally incapable of performing the functions of a president. Hindi kailangan ng mataas na pinag-aralan sa batas para magkapagsilbi sa taumbayan. Hindi kailangan ng PhD para makatulong sa bayan mong minamahal. All you need is the heart and the will power to make a lot of things work for the good of the people and the country.

Siguro naman, hindi nandaya si Noli (but we still don’t know for sure) kasi ever since eh popular na talaga siya sa tao. Ang baba naman ng tingin natin sa ating VP na inihalal ng tao, kung hindi siya mabibigyan ng pagkakataon. Yan ang tingin ng mga taong tulad nila FVR at ang mga oposisyon na wala din halos pinagkaiba kay PGMA na kapangyarihan ang tinatamasa.

Gusto ko lang linawin na hindi ako pro-Noli, hindi ko siya ipinagtatanggol. Dahil, walang ibang mabilis na feasible option para mapalitan na agad ang rehimeng Arroyo. Hindi naman kasi tama ang palitan ang konstitusyon (gaya ng sinasabi ni FVR) para sa sariling mga interes ng mga indibidwal. Dapat palitan ang konstitusyon para mapabuti ang kalagayan ng mga Pilipino hindi lang papalitan para maluklok sa pwesto ang mga gahamang trapo. Ang sinasabi ko lang, hindi dahil wala kang malalim na kaalaman sa kursong law, hindi ka karapat-dapat na maging isang leader.

Ang laki ng problema ng ating bayan. Kulang na kasi ang mga leaders na may pusong magsilbi ng tapat sa bayan. Kung baga, kulang na ang moral ascendancy ng karamihan, tila nakakalimutan na ata ang mga basics of having a good moral character. Hindi naman ako nagmamalinis. Hindi ko sinasabing I’m a righteous person na may karapatan akong mag-sermon tungkol sa pagkakaroon ng integridad ang isang tao. Tao lang tayo, lahat nagkakamali. Pero kung talagang you hold on to your principles and values, hindi mo ito ipagpapalit para sa kahit ano. Hindi mo ibubuwis ang mga iyan para sa mga sariling interes.

Pero sadyang ganyan kadumi ang pulitika – talagang madumi. Madami ang nasisira dahil dito. Kahit si Bro. Eddie, kung siya ang naging presidente natin, sigurado ako, kahit isang beses ay maisasantabi niya ang kapakanan ng bayan para sa sarili niyang kapakanan o sa interes ng ibang tao. Kahit gaano ka pa kabuti, mahirap maging banal sa pulitika.

Kaya kung gusto nating magbago at maayos ang ating bansa, ayusin natin ang ating attitude towards our fellow Filipinos and towards our love for country. Magtulungan ang mga Pilipino upang sa ikakaunlad ng kanilang buhay. Kesa mag-rally at magsisisigaw sa lansangan, mag-aral ng mabuti at gamitin ang mga nalalaman hindi para sa kasamaan kung sa pagtulong sa bayan. Gamitin ang nalalaman para pagbutihin pa ang kalagayan ng mga kapwa Pilipino. Oo, alam ko karamihan sa mga tao ay naghihirap at hindi makapag-aral. Pero marami naman paraan, kung gugustuhin lang, na makapag-aral. Sinu-sino pa ba ang tutulung sa mga Pilipino, kundi kapwa Pilipino. Sa tingin niyo ba may pakialam sa atin ang mga Amerikano, Hapon at iba pang banyaga? Wala, hindi naman nila tayo kaano-ano eh. Kung tayo-tayo mismo ang nagpapatayan, nagsisiraan, paano na. di gumawa na lang tayo na sari-sarili nating mga bansa. Bawat pamilya/angkan magsari-sarili na lang. Hindi ito maganda! Kaya mga kapwa Pilipino magtulung-tulong para sa magandang kinabukasan! Peace!

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Carlos

July 15th, 2005 at 4:37 pm

tobebs, asking her to resign is exactly what moving on is. what’s your concept of moving on, ba? gloria’s apology is over. now she must stand by it by leaving malacanang. exhausting all legal means including protesting on the street is what i can do for my country.

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gangster_roger

July 15th, 2005 at 4:47 pm

Carlos thinking about what you want and how to make the elite listen is the best that you can do for your country. Worshipping your President is not going to make that happen.

If only the 72 % who dont believe in her anymore should be out on the street by now then Gloria will be gone. By resignation or by force. But why are they not in the streets? Because they dont trust the people in the opposition! Its between a rock and a hard place.

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gangster_roger

July 15th, 2005 at 4:53 pm

I dont believe we have shortage of good leaders. We have shortage of power by the people. The elite is not scared of us and they dont listen to us!

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lantis123

July 15th, 2005 at 4:55 pm

Lam nyo, lets change this country. Lets begin by teaching lahat ng kamag anak natin na wag nilang ipagbili yung mga boto nila, turuan natin silang pumili ng mga tamang kandidato. Tanggalin natin yung mga nakamulatan nating tradisyon tulad ng pakikisama lalo na kapag eleksyon. kasi kahit hindi magaling yung tao, dahil sa pakikisama o utang na loob kaya natin minsan sinusuportahan pa rin natin yung kandidato. Another suggestion, lets go back to the 2 party system, kung saan, lahat ng kandidato ng pareho party e sinasala ng husto, hindi yung kung sino yung gusto tumakbo, pwede ng magtayo lang sarili nyang partido (remember Eddie Gil and his party?). Sa 2 party kasi, bago ka tanggaping kandidato, you should be More qualified than that of the other members. This will definitely cut our options, but it will certainly cleanse our election of those NUISANCE candidates. Hirap kasi ngayon, kapag hindi nagkasundo yung isang party, gagawa ng break away group para maikandidato yung gusto nila. tapos gagawin ang lahat para lang manalo yung kandidato nila. This would also simplify everything for the COMELEC, kasi tingin ko ngayon, nahihirapan sila magbilang, kaya naman kung sino yung tumawag sa kanila, yung na lang yung ipinapanalo nila. Any more suggestion?

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 4:56 pm

The opposition has admitted that the street protest wont make GMA resign, kasi naman the elite forces are not supporting it, kaya nga GMA has to make a supreme sacrifice eh, wag na nyang hayaang lumawak pa ang street protest.. magsacrifice na lang sya

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tobebs

July 15th, 2005 at 5:12 pm

carlos

what you have posted is exactly the same as what I meant in my post. Ang hindi mo naintindihan ay yong post ni javajoe na he’s implying na pagkatapos mag sorry ni Gloria ay patawarin na natin sya and we just move on na parang wala lang nangyari. I hope you got it this time.

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gangster_roger

July 15th, 2005 at 5:15 pm

consider Glorias position.

If she resigns the Opposition is not going to let her go. Suits will be filed against her. She will be drowned by it. There will be no mercy for her. Wherever she goes she will be jeered at, hit by stones eggs whatever. People hate her guts. I have heard people blaming her for their accidents, massive fires and all the bad things that happen to them. They hate her at a personal level as if she slapped them in the face one by one.

There is no way Erap will forgive her. She will be run down wherever she goes.

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Chihiro

July 15th, 2005 at 5:15 pm

papatawarin ko si GMA and sure we will go on, pero bumaba muna sya. bottomline e HINDI SYA ANG TUNAY NA PANGULO. her saying sorry will not change that fact.

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 5:16 pm

I agree with you Lantis, pero first things first, bago natin gawin yang suggestion, lets go back to our topic, have GMA realized that its time for her to step down, coz she has completely lost the public trust. After she steps down, gov’t should start again, linisin ang regulations and iapply yang suggestion mo..

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FrodoBaggins

July 15th, 2005 at 5:16 pm

Gangster_Roger (as your name implies it suits your mind)

Do you lived in the Philippines, which Part?
How much do you earn a day?
How much is the cost of LRT/MRT/Buses/Jeepneys/Tricycle from your place to Makati?
How much do you spent for your Food a day?
Do you have a complete meal from Breakfast, Lunch, and Diner?
Do you need shoes to go to your work place, and good clothing?
Do you pay for your Room/Apartment Rent, how much?
How much does your bill cost, water and electricity?

Try to compute everything. Do you think a common Filipino (without a family) could still cope up in the days ahead with all these rising commoditiy?

Think of those people working in a blue collar job. Do you think they could all have those basic necessity in time?

I bet you wouldn’t understand because you are not one of them. Clearly, cause if you do you would think twice renting an internet cafe’ just to browse this site and sent such a comment.

That’s explains why they can’t join now… but don’t estimate their minds for “The Ants maybe small but should they strike altogether they could kill.”

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 5:19 pm

well that’s GMA’s problem, we have to be responsible for all the actions were doing.. kung me kasalanan pagbayaran nya

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DingG

July 15th, 2005 at 5:41 pm

Whether she goes by the quick route (resignation) or the long patch (impeachment) I feel it’s obvious that GMA’s de facto presidency will eventually come to a close. Perhaps to make it easier for her handlers, they should review this url: http://watergate.info/nixon/resignation-speech.shtml

A little rewriting would be necessary pero kabawasan na rin ito sa pagod ng mga nalilitong ayudante ni ginang arroyo

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 5:45 pm

wow Ding,.. thanks for this information ha.. tagal ko na ngang naghahanap where i could get nixon’s resignation speech eh.. maybe this should be read or hear by GMA.. this might englighten her

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juanbagwis

July 15th, 2005 at 5:52 pm

Gma should really step down now, she is the one behind those seccesion talks. Kaliwat kanan ang pananakot ni Gonzales na kakasuhan nya ng sedition ang mga tumutuligsa sa gobyerno pero nagbibingi bingihan sa mga nagbabanta ng secession. Maraming buhay ang nabuwis sa mga labanan sa Mindanao. Aywan ko kung paano tatanggapin ng mga sundalo ang ganitong pamamaraan ng gobyerno para takutin ang mga mamamayan na kahit magnakaw ng boto ang nasa Malacanang ok lang, pag ginalaw sila seccesion ang mga aw aw ni gma. I lost also relatives during the Mindanao wars because the govt then was exercising its rights to protect the republic from disintegrating. Now the present govt is encouraging seccesion talks just to divert public opinions.

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DingG

July 15th, 2005 at 5:52 pm

Further to my last blog, dahil naman mukhang hindi magbibitiw si Mrs. Aquino, pwede na ring gamiting burador ng kanyang writers ang url na ito: http://watergate.info/nixon/price-non-resignation-speech.shtml

This contains the draft “I will not resign” speech written for Mr. Nixon which he never got to read. Again. some revision will be needed to match GMA’s situation, given that a lot of cover up ops and squid tactics are being put into motion.

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 5:54 pm

I think Sec. Gonzales should be asked to resign eh, she’s not doing any good for GMA anyway, lalo lang nyang inaalisan ng supporters si GMA sa mga irresponsible actions nya..

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emie

July 15th, 2005 at 5:55 pm

oopps sorry “mali ang grammar ko, heheh not she, he pala”.. kasi naman parang babae eh pumapatol sa babae

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pleigh

July 15th, 2005 at 6:14 pm

from nixon’s resignation speech –>But the interests of the Nation must always come before any personal considerations.

then again –>But as President, I must put the interest of America first

wow..yan ang makabayan, inuuna ang bayan kesa sarili…kahit gusto nya daanin sa proseso,di nya pinaibabaw ang pansariling interes…tularan MO!

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FrodoBaggins

July 15th, 2005 at 6:16 pm

To all those still supporting their almighty QUEEN, please answer these basic moral questions:

Will you teach to your children or children to be the same character of that of your QUEEN?

Will you teach them that it is OK to cheat just to correct what you believe in is wrong?

Will you teach them it is OK to grab that is not yours if you think you could do more than they do?

Will you teach them that a sorry is OK but yet keep what you have stolen?

Will you teach them to shut up, and do nothing if they found out something is not right based on what the moral values they know?

If you people teach your children with these I would not be surprise if the Philippines will be the No. 1 Corrupt, Poor, Gangster, Lawless country in the world in the years ahead.

Where is your concience?

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pepper

July 15th, 2005 at 6:58 pm

Nixon who had a “lapse in judgement” when he was accused to be behind the watergate scandal took the higher road by sacrificing his own interests when he opted to resign so as to not cause further division in the country. Time has vindicated him — in later years, he was able to resurrect his political career and has in fact proven himself to be a great statesman (forging ties with China during Carter’s term). I hope that President Arroyo can take a cue from him.
Whether or not she is guilty of cheating (however, I cannot for the life of me imagine any sound person who after hearing the tape or reading the transcript can still not believe that she was guilty) is no longer the issue. True, the tapes can be tampered with but she was given the opportunity to explain herself and instead she gave a vague apology which sounded very forced. Her actions show plainly her guilt.
If she truly loves the country and her people, she should do a Nixon and resign. This is the best way for our country to begin a healing/purging process.
It would be naive to think that her leaving would eradicate all problems in the country. But I think it is the one necessary step that we have to take before we can tackle the other problems we have.

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tobebs

July 15th, 2005 at 7:51 pm

Pinagsabihan lang ni Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita ang tatlong mayayabang na miyembro ng gabinete na sina Defensor, Gonzales at Tiglao. Dapat sinibak na ni Gloria ang mga ito para naman sana madagdagan kahit tatlong puntos ang kanyang approval rating. Bakit kaya di sila kayang sibakin ni Gloria? Natatakot ba sya na baka mabulgar ang mga baho nya?

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ParengPepe

July 15th, 2005 at 10:17 pm

Gloria, kumapit kang mabuti. Daigin mo ang pagkapit ng isang milyong tuko. You know that as soon as you leave office, it’s just a matter of time before you, your husband, your son, your brother-in-law, and God knows who else, will go straight to jail, if you don’t leave the country first.

You will continue to lead a miserable life. You will be afraid, like now, of each waking day, thinking “is this going to be the day?”.

Karma is real. What goes around, goes back around.

Where to now? Hawaii? San Fran? Austalia? Macabebe?

Pwe!!!!

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zorros

July 15th, 2005 at 11:27 pm

Curios lang.

Ano kaya ang ginagamit na visa ng mga Arroyo going to the USA (tourist, diplomatic, green card, investor visa, asylum, H2)? Kung Green Card holder sila, they are obliged by US treasury to declare all there bank accounts here in Philippines as well as any financial matters outside USA. Also they are required to file to IRS all the taxable income.

Hinde kaya nag-file na sila ng Asylum?

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Naz

July 16th, 2005 at 2:24 am

Woah. 200+ comments. Well, to the “She will be thrown with eggs and stones and get runovered” sana wag naman. Were all just human with these feelings. We must still respect them. Even our enemies. But ofcourse, justice shall have its way! =) I just hated the fact when Ms. GMA said that another PeoplePower or Mass Rallying in the streets will be unforgivable to us, the country etc. What is she talking about? I may have been like 11yrs old when Edsa 2 happend. But I sure as did follow it! I still remember her position against Estrada, her opening speech in Edsa shrine. Her following speech on the people. And how she got that position in the 1st place. It left a very bad taste in my mouth. But again.. this is my opinion only.

Godbless! Ingats!

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chuckybolts

July 16th, 2005 at 6:38 am

Alecks, I owe you an apology for thinking you would be so unprofessional as to do the things I accused you of. In hind site, I guess I took some evidence that seemed to me to be clear, but actually misconstrued what happened. Kind of funny how that can happen, huh? Anyway, my full apologies to you, and I’ll try to keep my comments from hereon out as professional as possible, and will also keep my comments at least loosely related to the blog… lol God Bless, and Ingat… Charley

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chuckybolts

July 16th, 2005 at 7:04 am

Magandang Umaga, Philippines !!
God Bless you, from your comrade Charley in the USA. There seems to be alot of comparison between PGMA and our ex- President Richard Nixon, and Watergate. I feel the situation in the Philippines compares better to the US’ last election between our incumbant, Republican President George W. Bush, and the then Democratic hopeful Al Gore. Al Gore lost to President Bush because of Bush’s win in Florida. The initial tallies of the votes in Florida gave the win to Al Gore, but then reversed that statement hours later to declare George W. Bush our next President. I and many Americans were dumbfounded by the change in tallies, and there was a long, tense waiting period before the President was actually declared as George W. Bush.At the time I also found it peculiar that Florida, the state where the problems arose, is governed by none other than George Bush’s brother, Governor Jeb Bush. And now, looking back on it all, I find it odd that a close friend of our US President, and fellow college mate, President Gloria M. Aroyo, is going through something that is far too similar to what we endured in the US in our last election. I’m not making any accusations, but it is definately food for thought. I’m hoping that the situation in the Philippines can be resolved peacefully, and through legal authority, and not by violence and back stabbing. The people of the Philippines need someone they can look up to, to admire, a national hero… Someone who cares about the people as much as the people care about them.I pray for all of us, throughout the world, that we will not fall victim to the consequences of deceit and fraud that seem to plague our political arenas. Good day, and God Bless us all.

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korab

July 16th, 2005 at 10:57 am

sa US, ang mga kandidato tumatanggap ng pagkatalo..kahit privately alam nila na dinaya sila, di nila ito isinasa-publiko kasi ayaw nila mawala ang integridad ng mga institusyon nila gaya ng commission on election, pagkatapos ng election at may nadeklara ng panalo, move on at rally behind the winner, yes they criticize the party in power, but they offer alternatives…pero sa Pinas, walang kandidato ang natatalo, lahat dinaya, kritikal sa administrasyon sa lahat ng bagay pero wala namang ipinapakitang alternatibo…yan ang difference ng US at Pinas..saka sa US di ka makakakita ng mag-inang senador na walang ginagawa…only in the phils. :)

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ParengPepe

July 16th, 2005 at 11:05 am

Lito Lapid is such a waste of time and space. It’s not even funny.

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masha

July 16th, 2005 at 12:55 pm

siguro naman kung sa amerika ay nahuli ang presidente nakikipagusap tungkol sa pandaraya with the equivalent of their comelec commissioner, makakarinig rin tayo ng reklamo galing sa kanila.

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BullsEye

July 16th, 2005 at 1:16 pm

What a shame! All these circus-type activities happening in a beautiful country we all love and can hate at times. Did PGMA cheat? It sure sounds like it! Was she the only one that cheated? PROBABLY NOT! Should she go? It looks like those who want her out need to do it with the PI Constitution/laws and not the ol’ People Power approach which doesn’t have the current support it needs to oust PGMA. Is it the form of government? The bottom line is that it doens’t matter what form of government or system the PI chooses to undertake. The success of the chosen system heavily relies on the “players” and everybody’s respect for the rules of law and for humankind. If the current and future administrations including those who are suppose to enfore the rules of law continue the “ME-ME-ME” or “I am a politician to get rich/Kurakot” mentality, the future of the PI is bleak.

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Naz

July 16th, 2005 at 1:36 pm

Well shell have a rally later at 4pm Rizal. Its her turn now. This must be intresting. I wanna know what they have to say.

Godbless! Ingats!

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Maria

July 16th, 2005 at 2:22 pm

Since I work at US government let me tell you a little bit about our elections. It’s very difficult to cheat or doctor our votes. First of all, before we vote, we have to show ID and had to sign our name corresponding to the information that was already prepared by our country clerk. All our informations are corresponding to our Social Security numbers. Then after that, a voter stub paper at the edge of our information is given to us as a proof we have voted and no one will be able to duplicate my vote. Our votes is not counted by individual votes, it is by ELECTORAL VOTES. Electoral votes represents the population and the representatives of each states. That’s how we base our winning votes. If we have 6 representatives in one states like state of Illinois and this 6 had 4 winning by the republicans, they had already won the whole state of Illinois, etc.

Marsha, we didn’t go to war because of the gas or fuel prices. USA have oil reserve and we only rely 10% on foreign oil. We have our own oil supplies. Alaska is rich in oil as it was discovered lately. USA went to war to prevent terrorism and it seems we are policing every countries that are in dire need .European countries, Japan, India, china including Philippines are 90 % relying oil in Saudi Arabia. As the Bussiness World Magazine used to tell, When “United States sneeze, everyone gets the flu” What it meant, United States is the main hub for all businesses and investment in the world. Our economy is very critical all over the world, if we flop our economy, the whole world will start scrambling. USA is a very wealthy country aside being super power. We have oil and gold reserved. Closely guarded by our militaries because these are our lifesaver just in case our economy end up like the depression era.
We american just love to complain just for the sake of whining. European countries gas prices ranges to $5 -8. In my state is just $2.32 a gallon that’s around 4 liters, this is just my ballpark estimate.

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ParengPepe

July 16th, 2005 at 10:05 pm

Thank you for educating us about voting in the US of A. Take a look at these websites and see what your fellow “Americans” are saying about “your” elections.

http://www.betterworldlinks.org/book109h.htm

http://www.fraudfactor.com/ff2kelectionfraud.html

http://www.bopnews.com/archives/002328.html

I can show you more, if you like.

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homer

July 16th, 2005 at 10:09 pm

KAPAG PINAG ARALAN NATIN MABUTI, HALOS LAHAT NG SANGKAP PARA MAG REVULUSYON ANG ISANG BANSA AY NASA ATIN NA AT NANGYAYARI NA!

ANG WALA NA LANG AY ANG MGA TAONG MAGRE-REVOLUSYON!

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doctorT

July 16th, 2005 at 10:34 pm

ANG KAILANGAN SA PILIPINAS CIVIL WAR. TUTAL GAYA GAYA TAYO SA AMERIKA. DI BA NAGKAISA SILA AFTER THEIR CIVIL WAR. THEY REALIZED THAT GREED AND DIVISIONS HAS NO PLACE IN SOCIETY. TAPOS UMUNLAD ANG MGA BALASUBAS. LUZON VS VISAYAS. MINDANAO NEUTRAL LANG KASI PARANG WALA SILANG PAKIALAM KAHIT DUN NANGYARI ANG DAYAAN. MANILA VS CEBU MATIRA MATIBAY.

ITOY ISANG KATHANG ISIP LANG NA MAARING MAGING KATOTOHANAN!!!

KAYA GLORIA PARA SA KINABUKASAN NG 2 TAONG KONG ANAK MAG RESIGN KA NA LANG

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koj

July 16th, 2005 at 11:07 pm

funny doctor t….buti kathang isip lng…he he…

but seriously, it’s not gloria who can assure the good future of your kid…it’s you and your family who must be responsible for it…

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zorros

July 16th, 2005 at 11:43 pm

Sa USA, ang Vice Governor ay automatic na state election commisioner tuwing election. Kaya pag Republikan ang vice governor tapos Republikan ay gusto manalo sa state na iyon, eh medyo merong konti advantage pero konti lang (ie Gore-Bush), hinde obvious at hinde garapalan tulad ng ginagawa ni Gloria at GArci.

You can tinker with the voting machines but you can’t tamper the actual vote itself – its a no,no. Very sacred kasi yung One Man-One Vote. GMA desecrated that one principle. What a shame on GMA.

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koj

July 17th, 2005 at 12:36 am

the best thing the US has and some other countries is that they have a computerized election, one that can bring results in a day or two. in such scenario, it would be more difficult to cheat. it would take an efficient computer geek to cheat specially if the computer program have the best controls possible.

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masha

July 17th, 2005 at 1:24 am

the terrorists werent in iraq, were they? saddam was an evil person but there was no connection with al qaeda. your own 9/11 commission concluded that. i can send you the report if you want. but if you’re in govt, yo should be able to access that.

wmd daw reason for the war. failure of intelligence lang pala ng cia. you even ostracized france for opposing the war. di ba ni rename nyo pa sa capitol cafeteria yung french fries to liberty/freedom fries. nagsisisi a nga yung congressman na nagmungkahi ng pagpalit ng pangalan ng fries.

pero di bale na sabi nga ni sean hannity at least wala na si saddam ang justification ngayon for the war. diosme.

lalo lang nagagalit sa inyo ang mga tao. mas madali tuloy mag recruit ang mga terrorists. dami nyo kasing napatay na civilians sa war on wmd nyo sa iraq. at dahil sa mga abuso nyo sa abu ghraib at gitmo.

ang di ko maintindihan rin why you still hate the french when it has been proven that they were right and you were wrong? that is there were no wmds in iraq.

ang hirap sa inyo nun rin, yung NSA nyo ang expertise ay soviet issues. di niya nabasa ng tama ang al quaeda threat na binabantayan ni richard clarke. pero di ko rin maintindihan bakit di niyo alam yung project bojingka e gayung yung nbi namin ang nakaalam nito sa pag raid kay ramzi youssef sa josefa apratments sa quirino ave. e kahit pala gaano ka palpak ang nbi namin e mas palpak pala ang law enforcement at intelligence nyo.

if you have enough oil then why cant you stop the increase in gas prices? of course you may be talking of supply for the next few years. securing another source is more for when your wells dry up. the way you consume, your reserve will not last.

policing countries in need? sus guinoo. werent you guys the one who sold saddam weapons to counter iran?

if you treat the other countries better, or maybe even just learn about other countries and increase your general culture (the regular american is actually a nice person, just lacking in general culture), then you would understand the world better and be less arogant. america may be a 1st world country but it’s not necessarily perfect for ex. you guys dont have a good healthcare program for your citizens, unlike say, france.

there were reports before your pres’l elections last year that certain computer interfaces were “malfunctioning” that whatever button you push will lead you to bush. cnn made a report as well of how easily people can and have bought votes. people have sold their votes for 50$ nung napanood ko yun, uy sabi ko, di pala onli indapilipins. hehe.

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cheated

July 17th, 2005 at 1:58 am

Padinig niyo yan kay Mike Defensor at sasabahin niya na wala namang pandaraya diyan..that it is relative and depende sa interpretation ng nakikinig..sobrang bata at inosente naman nitong si Defensor at walang nakitang malisya sa mga pinagsasabi ng bosing niya. Well, intindihin na lang natin, mahirap yatang maging taga damage control. Biro mo di na yata yan pumupunta sa office niya bilang Cabinet Secretary ng ano ba Department niya..kasi pre-occupied na sa kakapainterview at depensa sa Queen niya and they have the yabang to claim na all is good and normal..ha ha ha…lokohin niyong mga sarili niyo. Sa tingin ko lang ha..ang pinkainam nilang dapat gawin ngayon ay mag conduct ng spiritual retreat…alalahanin niyo po diyan sa Malacanang na mga bisita lang tayo dito sa mundo..you will only pass this place once, kaya’t kung balak niyo mag leave ng mark, yung medyo maganda naman..bago pa mahuli ang lahat. Gets niyo po o kailangan ko pa ulit liwanagin..mahirap yatang mag isip kung under pressure.

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ParengPepe

July 17th, 2005 at 2:22 am

GMA’s lapdogs should get their acts together. They will surely go into infamy as supporting characters in this comedy of admissions and inadmissions.

Bunye, the “Presidential Spokesman”, first acknowledged that it was her voice in the recordings on day one.

Ermita denies this and drops Bunye like a hot tamale.

GMA then acknowledges it and says “sorry” (kasuk-asuka).

Defensor, who has been speaking in behalf of the Gloria’s administration, every day, in all major media network interviews, challenges the opposition to resign if the voices on the tape are authenticated or otherwise. The opposition calls his bluff.

Tiglao disowns Defensor’s statements as not the Palace’s official line. Defensor’s other statements are, but not this one.

We now laugh at these people. Their actions or inactions will go into history books. Our children and our children’s children will also laugh at them. “The Kapit Tuko Syndrome” will be a subject for political science students for generations to come.

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Maria

July 17th, 2005 at 3:32 am

Pareng Pepe, again we american love to complain for the sake of whining. :) Those websites are intitled to their opinion but they aren’t facts. This people are exercising their 1st amendment rights. Maybe you have seen Michael Moore’s 9/11 Farenheit. They are believable stories but they are maninly views but they aren’t substatiated truth in facts. FBI profiler use to tell, if people are telling lies they can SPECIFY DETAILS very clearly. But those who tell the truth, CAN’T REMEMBER the specific detail and scenario, because our brain CAN’T specifically store things like computer. I had watch (Bunye) the first time denying about the Gloriagate and the guy MOSQUEDA, they are aboslutely lying the way they answer questions. These guys have practice sentences before they face the media. I can see Bunye’s throat lump swell and swallowed before he answers too :) I don’t know these guys I just had seen them on TV replying to the questions from news media. I heard also, Gloria deliver her speech in radio instead of TV lately. Someone must have told her to refrain delivering speech thru TV because it’s hard to face people when you lied. This is true nature of human. Even the most hardcore criminals can’t look at you straight in the eye when they are trying to lie and convince you that they are telling the truth :)

Marsha, it had been years we are complaining about the war in iraq that there’s no link on Al Queda. Obvioulsy Zarqawi terrorizing Iraq and his followers had just bomb London 2 weeks ago. The mastermind was also link here in New york. He studied at North Carolina University degree in Chemistry. He was in pakistan and traveled to London and made several phone calls here in New York. This was disclosed by Scotland yard. G8 summit was mum because it had already proven that Zarqawi the al queda are everywhere. The 2004 was in Spain, don’t forget Indonesia killed 200 aursalians. The British people had already conveyed that THIS IS HOW AMERICANS FEEL, No wonder they won’t stoop down until they can get these guys responsible of killing innocent americans”. Americans are forgiving people but they can’t forget. They are very patriotic too, especially the people living in southern states. With all those twangs and southern drawls, they are there to fight and even go to other countries to protect others. The reason why USA trying to get extrremist so that they won’t build and dwell in other countries like Philippines because USA won’t allow other countries to suffer like afghanistan. We americans had suffered so much even bfore 9/11. The bombing of US embassy in Africa and the USS Cole, we didn’t act inspite of pleading of american parents who seek justice about the death of their sons and daugthers. We had finally awaken when 9/11 hit us hard. I’m also grieving, because I lost personal friends at 9/11.

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masha

July 17th, 2005 at 4:36 am

you’ve just made it easier for the terrorists to recruit by invading iraq. kund dati walang terrorists dun ngayon meron na.

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chuckybolts

July 17th, 2005 at 7:45 am

Although it is true that the US gave Sadaam weapons to fight the Iranians, it was necessary for us to do that at the time, as Iran had shown contempt for us, and had commited terrorist acts against us. At the time, Iraq had done nothing to us. I hear alot of people complaining that there were never any weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq. Sadaam killed millions of his own people to protect his iron fist over Iraq. I think that the US removed the key WMD… Sadaam. As far as Al Qada being in Iraq, they were always there, and continue to resist American and Iraqi troops and civilians. Most are insurgents from other countries… Pakistan, Syria, Egypt, etc., and they will not rest until they have either achieved their goals of being able to have total control, or until they are destroyed. The US and Britain, and many other countries in the world are in Iraq and Afghanistan to insure that these terrorists do not win… And they won’t win. We all live in free countries, where we are able to do what we want. Turning our backs on others who don’t have that priviledge is not an option. Radical ideology must end. And we are all responsible for its demise…

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Maria

July 17th, 2005 at 10:05 am

Marsha, we didn’t make it easier for them, we made the world aware that extremist or terrorist are scum of the society. Most of them live in the borders and moutain of Pakistan, Egypt, syria and Jordan. We have the biggest US base in Quatar in middle east, we have set universities and businesses there. Guess what? have you heard anyone US citizen getting killed or kidnap in Quatar? none, because the new installed prince of Quatar was educated in England and USA. He had defy the oldtime fashion of islam type of running their government. No terrorist are being allowed to enter his country he won’t allow any of this to ruin his country. As he always said “I build it, they will come” that’s what the US investor did, they come and invested in Quatar. If only Philippines could do the same thing the biggest investor we could have is USA. I felt pain when USA granted Singapore a free trade agreement between them. I’m extremely jealous of it because this will bring more money and job to Singaporean. Singapore have offered there country to US to set US military base for protection. Obvioulsy Singapore government is thinking over the safety of there beloved citizens and there country. I feel envy how there government tries to do this.

Chuckybolt, my sentiments is exactly like yours. This is very personal to me because this had happen to my husband’s family. When Old Bush was the Pres during early 90’s he didn’t finish the job when Saddam invaded Kuwait. US t evacuated the Kurdish people of Nothern iraq out of the country. This is really teary for all of us because my brother in law was in US air force. They evacuated the remaining 2,000 kurdish tribe of Iraq to Guam. Saddam perform genocide over the kurdish tribe in Nothern Iraq. It’s like killing all the Ilokano people and only 2,000 were remaining. The only way to preserve the tribe is to bring them to other countries and let them multiply. The Kurdish people in Northen Iraq are the descentdants of the remaining 2,000 who lives in Guam. They were be able to bring them back after Saddam’s ouster. This is what mostly people can’t understand why US pursue Iraq. First thing Saddam used biological weapon towards his own people the Kurdish tribe of Iraq.Do you think he is not capable of using the biological weapon to his neighboring countries? Either he have them now or not, it’s not a guessing game of “what if”. Second, the Kurdish and other Iraqis are angry at US, they were left behind to suffer the wrath of Saddam because Old Bush didn’t finish the job. We are finsihing the job that were left behind by the previous adminstration or else we will be answering this to Iraqis who have been hoping democracy in there country. I hope the same thing will prevail in the Philippines, the REAL DEMOCRACY.

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niniowongwy

July 17th, 2005 at 7:10 pm

most probably mr. randy david visits this site. i really want to get in touch with him.

i have always liked him. really found his writings in the phil daily inquirer very scholarly and enlightening but not lately….

lately, he has written a couple (which I read) on theories about conversations… they are really very enlightening as scholarly discussions…

but i am afraid that the good professor has started to mistake his theories for realities… these are two different things…. a law, such as the law of gravity, is a law because it is unmistakably true… a theory is called as such because it does not have absolute basis but a good framework in which to understand reality…

recently, i saw the good professor on television, expounding his thoughts (or should i say patronizing his feeling?) … but i am afraid that his emotions had gotten the better part of him…

i would like to urge him to remain scholarly… his emotional appearances on tv has betrayed his own scholasticism…. sayang, professor…

you could serve as light to many if you don’t let your emotions get the better part of you…

i wish you well…

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niniowongwy

July 17th, 2005 at 7:20 pm

let us not be to harsh in judging until all facts are in….

let us make our conclusions and decisions when the necessary facts are made available to us…

sometimes we are quick to judge because we are acting like pilate washing our hands… washing our own guilt away…

let us wait and see…

if pgma is guilty after a thorough inquiry, by all means, let us kick her out…. but until then, she is our president… let us support her not because she is gma but because she is the president of this country…

whether we like it or not, her fate, until this time, is intrinsically intertwined with our own fate as a country…

so, guys, cool it….

let us wait… and see… and if she ought to be kicked out, it will be a collective decision for our collective history…

but as saul bellow would say, let us seize the day… and until this moment, seizing the day means suspending judgment. let us do ourselves a favor…

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eyesWIDEopen

July 17th, 2005 at 7:25 pm

in the case of the GLORIAGATE, having heard it, no amount of wise lawyers can erase the truth. GLORIA cheated and I am glad RANDY DAVID is not afraid to speak up his mind even if inquirer is unmistakably pro-GMA.

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dong

July 17th, 2005 at 7:57 pm

Nakakatuwa talagang pakinggan YUNG DAGDAG!! YUNG DAGDAG!! na salitang usong uso ngayon . Alam nyo ba na matagal na natin nadidinig yan pero hindi natin pinaguukulan man lang ng pansin? DRIVER – YUNG DAGDAG na pasahe. UNIBERSIDAD- YUNG DAGDAG na matrikula. GAS STATION- YUNG DAGDAG na taas per litro. BIYAHERO- YUNG DAGDAG na taas ng presyo ng bilihin. Pero sa lahat ng yan dito maraming talo. YUNG DAGDAG ng sweldo!!!. ito kasing si GMA ang inatupag na madagdagan ay ang kanyang boto. At kaya sumasabit ang mga negosyante sa makati dahil ayaw naman nilang madagdagan ang sweldo!! ANU BA YAN !!!!!!

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eyesWIDEopen

July 17th, 2005 at 8:05 pm

hahhaha. Yung dagdag! Yung dagdag!

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eyesWIDEopen

July 17th, 2005 at 8:10 pm

Guys you can check out http://www.sunstar.com.ph/blogs. this is a blog of sunstar, a news paper in CEBU. the bloggers show that they don’t like arroyo. the news also shows that CEBUANO leaders are split in the idea of making a cebu or visayas republic.

it goes to show that a select group of pro-admin leaders are only bluffing to show that GMA is well-loved in cebu, but the truth it is otherwise.

so we don’t need to say CEBU vs MANILA because their is no “versus” here. Its clear that CEBU is feeling that same way as MANILA is feeling. Only their pro-gma leaders want to paint a different picture.

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KaBlog

July 17th, 2005 at 9:32 pm

Dapat ang pangalan ng CEBU kapag naging Republic ay REPUBLIC OF CEBUYAS! Cebu na Visayas pa! Mga amoy cebuyas ang mga MAYOR AT GOVERNOR dyan!

Kahit ano pang gawin ng CEBU wala kayong magagawa kapag ang MAYNILA ang umaksyon.

Ambot sa imo!

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doctorT

July 17th, 2005 at 9:53 pm

KAWAWA NAMAN MGA CEBUANOS. DAHIL SA MGA LINTA NYONG LOCAL OFFICIALS NASASAMA KAYO SA GALIT NG MGA ANTI-GMA. SABAGAY DEAD MA LANG KAYO. DI NYO MAAALIS SA AMIN ANG MANGHINAKIT SA INYO. KAHIT ALAM NYONG NAGKADAYAAN DYAN WALA KAYONG GINAWA. MORE THAN 90% TURN OUT NG MGA VOTERS, BULLSHIT!!!!!!.

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eyesWIDEopen

July 17th, 2005 at 9:56 pm

simple answer to your statement DOCTORT. cebuanos, or bisaya in general are peaceloving people. hindi sanay magrally.

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doctorT

July 17th, 2005 at 10:07 pm

PEACE LOVING DIN NAMAN KAMI. PEACE BRO. PERO KUNG ALAM MO NG LINOLOKO AT DINUDUGAS KA, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO FIGHT. NAALALA KO TULOY YUNG SONG NI KENNY ROGERS. SARAP NG CHICKEN DUN .
PHILIPPINE WAS MOLDED NOT ONLY BY RIZALS BUT ALSO BY BONIFACIOS.

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eyesWIDEopen

July 17th, 2005 at 10:14 pm

indeed. and it feels good joining the AYALA rally knowing that I was there because my conscience dicated so. since i have work, i had to walk 10 minutes away from my work place just to join the call of the voice.

thanks to the people who are reading PCIJ and all newspapers in the Phil. we are all made aware of the situation. impeach GMA.

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cheated

July 18th, 2005 at 2:05 am

I could see that there are a lot of minds here that has been longing for change..why not try to organize and turn into action our longing for change..ano kaya kung mag start tayo ng weekend run around the city..tatawagin nating “Takbo tungo sa Pagbabago”…naalala niyo ba si Mr. F. Gump?…di nating kailang sumigaw ng kung ano ano mang mapanirang bagay..sapat ng makapag create tayo ng awareness na wala tayong hangad kung hindi isang tunay na pagbabago para sa bayan at sa future ng mga susunod pang generation ng mga pinoy. We are a great race..may mga kakulangan tayo pero hindi tayo nahuhuli bilang tao kumpara sa mga mamamayan ng ibang bayan..kung tuwing umaga ng sabado..magkikita kita tayo..tatakbo ng ilang kilometro para maipahiwatig ang atig saloobin. Wala tayong kikilingan..basta tayo para sa tama, para sa katotohanan, para sa fairness, para sa ikakatahimik ng bayan…of course…hindi tayo sa side ng mandaraya, manloloko, gahaman at walang malasakit sa sambayan…sabi nila..wala daw boses ang middle class sa mga issues na kinakaharap ng bayan..well…andito tayo..padinig na natin ang mga boses natin….tingin ko naman..wala ng puwang ang apathy ngayon.

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masha

July 18th, 2005 at 2:44 am

magandang ideya yan, cheated. kailangan na nating ma-aksyunan ang ating mga saloobin. ok ang blog para mapahayag ang ating mga opinyon pero dapat gumawa rin tayo ng konkretong bagay para maitawid ang pagbabagong minimithi natin.

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xiao

July 18th, 2005 at 9:53 am

URGENT!!!

PCIJ Please take note. I think I heard something from the Paguia version of the tapes doon sa part na garbled. Yung naka capitalize po:

Garcillano: Ay wala naman, ok naman ang Namfrel sa atin. They are now sympathetic to us.

GMA (mumbling): Oo, oo … PERO WE MUST MAKE SURE Namfrel does not tally. Pero yun nga, yung dagdag, yung dagdag.

Please check. I do not know if heard exactly that or words something to that effect. Correct me if I’m wrong…

I don’t know kung may implication yun, basta yun lang naman po. Commendable pala i-report special ish niyo.

Thanks

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Gloriagate Watch :: Yung dagdag, yung dagdag :: July :: 2005

July 18th, 2005 at 2:48 pm

[…] Read more in PCIJ… […]

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initdisyerto

July 18th, 2005 at 3:50 pm

dito sa saudi last election, kahon lang ang ballot box… kung yong mga di padlock napapakialaman how much more yong masking tapes lang ang proteksyon…. and besides, parang kaya minadali na makaboto ang mga pinoy sa abroad para pang “dagdag”…

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ParengPepe

July 18th, 2005 at 9:37 pm

from Malaya.com.ph:

GLORIA . . GOLRIA… GOLIAR…. GO LIAR ..

nuf said….

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zorros

July 19th, 2005 at 1:04 am

I noticed maraming Prog-GMA banners along Marcos Highway and C5 (from Marikina towards the Fort). Seems like MMDA is behind this or if not a willing accomplish.

Diba MMDA = Presidential Social Fund?

GMA is indeed working hard – working hard to prop-up her image.

It is very typical of her administration to either shoot-back at the opposition or “use” high profile propaganda just to counter any Crisis hounding her administration.

Madam GMA hinde paba ubos yung Social Fund? Whats next.. raid GSIS coffer, Intelligence Fund, Local Goverment Allotment……. and by the way Jueteng fund?

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masha

July 19th, 2005 at 1:10 am

andaming nagugutom pero ang pera ng bayan ginagastos sa pag papaganda ng image ni ate glo. what kind of a country are we to let this kind of thing happen?

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emie

July 19th, 2005 at 9:50 am

ohayo everyone!

just read that another GMA adviser has resigned.. buti naman nagising na sila unti unti…sana sumunod na sina Defensor and Bunye na magising.. its about time for them to realize that the leader they’re supporting no longer enjoys the public trust..

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soledad t. tubay

July 19th, 2005 at 1:52 pm

you’re quite right emi. how i wish those still supporting her because they have chosen to back her up no matter what will realize that it’s not worth it. they should heed the advice of manuel quezon, “my loyalty to party ends where my loyalty to my country begins.”
i consider sec. bunye and tiglao intelligent people (sorry i can’t say the same thing for defensor). thus, i keep on wondering what’s keeping them from telling the truth.
but i give them the benefit of a doubt. most probably, they are actually talking to her (kung hindi tinatarayan) and trying to convince her to do what is best for her and for the people.
MRS. ARROYO, THERE’S LIFE OUTSIDE MALACAÑANG.

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drahcir

July 19th, 2005 at 3:05 pm

Now the TRUTH is beginning to emerge. See the link.http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index.php?index=1&story_id=44075

Calling all well-meaning citizens who knew something in part about the cheating in the 2004 elections. Come out and be heard so the people will know the truth. You owe it to the people to speak for the truth and the truth shall set us FREE!

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puretuts

July 21st, 2005 at 3:36 pm

Bert Romulo knows something. The appointment of Garcillano passed through his search committe. I know that Bert Romulo benefited before from the old network of COMELEC operators here in Mindanao. His contact is based here in Cagayan de Oro City. He gave this guy a 2 door pajero as a reward.

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puretuts

July 21st, 2005 at 7:58 pm

Bert Romulo paid millions before so to improve his standing sa senatorial elections.

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brulyo

July 22nd, 2005 at 10:39 am

GLORIA-GO LIAR!

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nagbabasa lang po

July 22nd, 2005 at 4:47 pm

For jt2k6,

im sure ndi po naman lingid sa inyo ang use ng “equalizer” di po ba? me component po ba kayo? sa computer meron din po. and if you say “Sound enhancement = Doctored tape”

ano masabi mo kung ayusin ko lang ang equalizer para marinig ko ang vocal frequencies ng isang record music or isang recording? I use the system enhancement para gumanda ang sound quality, and editing is far more different coz u need the specific location and perfect timing para mai”patch-up” ang isang word if you like.

I used to play around my winamp media player and most of you here knows whats the purpose of the middle most control pag itinaas mo yun ng sagad, ang boses na malagong titinis po at mas clear kesa garbled. hope you can experience to use your component equalizer in “V” position. try to pay with it.

– cheeeze

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korab

July 23rd, 2005 at 2:52 am

mga supporters ni ni erap (ie mga oposisyon)..weather-weather lang yan…;)kung di ba naman tanga ang sambayanang Pilipino, iboto ba naman ang mag-inang Estrada, pati na si Bong R at Lito Lapid….kung di tayo ganito kagago, hindi tayo gagaguhin ng mga nasa puwesto…yan ang ugat ng corruption sa atin

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Chihiro

July 23rd, 2005 at 3:33 am

ang ugat e ang walang respeto sa boto ng kapwa Pilipino. yan ang ugat ng lahat ng ito.

kung nanalo nang walang halong daya ang isang kandidato (artistang bobo man sya o mala-Einstein sa talino) e ano ba ang paki mo? e sya ang pinili ng nakararami e. kung nandaya sya, gaya ng gawa ni GMA, dun ka magalit.

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beijing

July 23rd, 2005 at 12:09 pm

I’d rather have cheating GMA than:

ERAP, JV, Jinggoy and Rez Cortez;

Imee Marcos, Ernesto Maceda,at Kit Tatad;

CCP, NPA, NDF, at iba pang militanteng walang makitang tama.

Fortunato Abat, Renato de Villa and the gang este Revolutionary Council. Anong diperensya ninyo kay GMA na hindi binoto ng tao?

Noli de Castro? Hmmmm, I want to hear him first. But he remains loyal to GMA which is the right thing to do in this madness.

PCIJ, please dont manufacture news. Do you have the expertise to claim even in the court of law your findings on the said tape, are you sure this is the authenticated tape? Are you sure this is the original? If not, dont add to more confusions please.

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penpenpen88

July 23rd, 2005 at 12:30 pm

I’d rather have cheating GMA than
by beijing
– Ganyan at ganyan po mentality natin kaya di tau umaasenso. Anu yan the lesser evil ?? Ang akin kahit na sinu ka pa basta you committed a crime dapat kang arestohin ikulong at ipagbayad ng multa. E tayong mga ordinaryong citizens nga pinagpapatawan ng mataas na vat sa halos lahat ng mga bagaybagay. Tapos lahat ng pawis at hirap ng binabayad mo sa guyerno na ito in the form of taxes iwawaldas lang nila ng ganun ganun?? Kung ok lang sau un kasi baka di ka naman ng babayad ng taxes eh sa amin hindi. Kung sau ok lang ung gumastos ng bilyon sa project ng computerization ng comelec na di naman nagamit, kung ok lang sayo na pataas ng pataas yung pagbayad natin ng buwis eh pababa ng pababa naman yung economy natin sa amin hindi po!!! I personaly don’t like all those u mentioned sa comment ko to lead our country. But im no idiot to let a cheating thieving president stay in power so that she could waste more of our money for personal gain!! Shame on you people who thinks otherwise.

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nagbabasa lang po

July 23rd, 2005 at 8:00 pm

beijing,

me pamilya ka na ba? or planing pa?

maituro mo kaya sa anak mong pde naman magsinungaling at mandaya then after ok lang walang kaparusahan at lalaking kagaya ng itinuro mo. palagay mo?

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sagiksikuryente

July 23rd, 2005 at 8:45 pm

kung sana yung dagdag na sweldong hinihingi ng mga mangagawa ang inaatupag ni Macapalgal, e di goodshot pa sana siya!

kaya naman naghihirap ang pilipinas dahil yung bad karma ng mga ginawa niyang pandaraya, sa bansa natin bumalik.

kaya ang napala natin, naghalal kayo (boykot kasi ako) ng huwad na pangulo, tayong lahat ngayon ang talo..

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INSIDE PCIJ: Stories behind our stories » The Bunye tapes analyzed

July 24th, 2005 at 4:42 pm

[…] The tape analysis shows that the portion where Pres. Arroyo mentioned "yung dagdag, yung dagdag" was present in both Bunye "original" and "spliced" versions. […]

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punisher

July 24th, 2005 at 10:15 pm

walang mangyayari sa atin kung gustuhin natin ung mandaraya at nagsisinungalin.kahit sino pa siya basta totoong nanalo ok lang.kaya pagnakita ko ng personal ung sumulat ng gusto nya ung nandaraya sorry na lang kaw na ang next target ng RAM.magdasal ka na.

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amungcal

July 25th, 2005 at 12:06 am

Whoever becomes president does not bring out genuine political, economic, social and electoral reforms.It is time to support a regime change not just a change of the guard in Malacanang.I agree with some experts that an extraconstitutional means of establishing a revolutionary government consists of multisectoral groups, e.g., civil society groups, business sector, academe, churches, and the ten dignified Cabinet members that would handle this transition government toward regime change until a new constitution is framed.Education and political awareness thru the media should be disseminated so that the public would not be afraid.The state does not die when there is a regime change. In fact, the laws, bureaucracy, social services, courts, schools, peace and order and businesses continue. Only the President, Congress are temporarily stalled so that a transition government can pursue genuine reforms.
For example, it is time for the hacienda system to go and genuine land reform be achieved.If we can transfer all lands to the farmers that would improve a lot of people’s quality of life and lessen the state’s burden and let the farmers handle food security.The hacienderos with all their money should instead industrialize to create more jobs and enterprises to help the government raise revenues to promote the economic growth and development and to pay our debts.America and Europe had given up these feudal lands to industrialize and they succeeded.
The political arena is characterized by patron client relationship which elect personalities rather than issue oriented groups.If we can shift to federal-parliamentary system in which people vote on issues rather than personalities, it will change the rotten system.To add,we should computerize the elections so that the system would be more transparent and impartial.
Do we really want a regime change so that we can give flesh and meaning to the real spirit of EDSA Revolution of 1986?

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ars

July 25th, 2005 at 12:45 am

mrs. arroyo guilty–parusahan

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amungcal

July 25th, 2005 at 1:33 am

Even without the Garci tapes, if you are literate in statistics, election data and survey samples, i bet you will agree with me that GMA committed election fraud.It is impossible and improbable statistically to get around 1,204,000 in Cebu alone and get around 122,000 nationally including Pampanga and Pangasinan, GMA’s obvious bailiwicks.What is special about Cebu that GMA got a skyscraper victory?Cebu is not an obvious bailiwick for GMA.It is even statistically improbable for GMA to get votes more than the local candidates in Cebu because as the electoral base narrows the votes for national candidates also narrows in while the local candidates’ votes widens.
The SWS and Pulse Asia surveys last year did not even matched with the official COMELEC results.According to experts, the idea of an incumbent president running in public office might prevented the survey respondents to lie about their real choices because of fear of reprisal from the government.The SWS exit poll was flawed because it asked respondents in their homes after they left the polling places.This means they took the liberty of time to do their usual chores and when asked on their choice,they might have bought time to think and lie.In the US,respondents are asked by pollsters immediately so that they might not buy time to think and lie.
The KNP filed a recount in the Supreme Court,however,we cannot verify it now because FPJ is dead so is the recount for President.Even the national board of canvassers in Congress did not verify the authenticity and due execution of CoCs when there are erasures and go back to the original election returns devoid of dagdag bawas.As the tallies and counting go up it is more susceptible to dagdag bawas because the handlers are reduced narrowly and bribery is possible.Election returns are the true will of the electorate because they are authenticated by public school teachers and it is impossible to bribe them en masse.
The KNP election copies did not match the COMELEC results according to them so they file a protest.Though NAMFREL has copies too, however, they stopped the quick count prematurely and until now we don’t know if their copies really matched COMELEC’s.Let us asked Guillermo Luz and MBC’s Concepcion.
This probably happened because when passions of desire to hold on to power run over reason, it takes control of the very soul of man.And this is very vicious as the ancient Roman philosophy proves to be relevant today.

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beijing

July 25th, 2005 at 10:55 am

penpenpen88,

IMHO. Yes, the lesser evil na lang ang choice between those who are waiting to grab power and those in power. I mentioned Noli de Castro, dahil siya ang constitutional successor pero kung yung gusto ng opposition ay yung mga plano nila, hindi pwede. Gulo lang lalo and you may pray later that you shouldn’t have ask GMA to resign. Simula noon pa hanggang ngayon may corruption na, hindi pa buhay si GMA meron na yan. Bat kay GMA lang kayo galit na galit, bat di kayo galit na galit sa mayor, congressman niyo na may malaki ring impact sa araw araw na buhay niyo ang mga ginagawa o hindi nila ginagawa.

If you can share a legal and peaceful alternative, i will support that.

nagbabasa lang po,

mahirap sagutin ang tanong mo, pero sa alternatives, personally, hindi ko sa kanya ituturo yon, alam ko mali, bat ko ituturo? hehehe. Pero sa ngayon, accept ko na yun dahil wala akong makitang alternative. If you people can give the alternatives na hindi magkakaroon ng gulo. Please post it here.

amungcal,

dyan ako kinakabahan sa revolutionary council, pano mo masisiguradong walang kanya kanyang interest ang mga nasa council, pano kung hindi sila nagkasundo? gulo na naman?

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penpenpen88

July 25th, 2005 at 11:10 am

Gulo lang lalo and you may pray later that you shouldn’t have ask GMA to resign.
Sorry if i dont share your views. Don’t think prayers are the anwers to our problems either. God can only do so much. Dapat tayo po ung magbago. Para we dont sit idly by and let criminals run this country to the ground.

Simula noon pa hanggang ngayon may corruption na, hindi pa buhay si GMA meron na yan.
I agree problema po kasi sa mga gunggong na leaders natin dito. Di sila proportional mangurakot. Sure kahit sa na states me corruption kaso they are i guess intelligent enough to know na pag mas malakas ang economy mo mas marami kang makukurakot. Eh dito pinapatay yung mga business sa sobrang excess taxes tapos la ka naman nakikitang improvements sa services nila. Lalo na po dito sa provinces. In short pataas ng pataas yung collection nila, wala naman silang tinutulong sa mga local businesses para lalong umunlad ang mga business nila. Pinapaboran parati mga multinationals, sina ayala, sina lopez, yung mga me monopoly at mga me cartel. They are bleeding us small businessess dry and for what?? do that they could waste money on vote counting machines which they dont use, bridges that lead to nowhere?? come on.. whose fooling who??

Bat kay GMA lang kayo galit na galit, bat di kayo galit na galit sa mayor, congressman niyo na may malaki ring impact sa araw araw na buhay niyo ang mga ginagawa o hindi nila ginagawa.
Precisely if we could start cleaning up our act di ba dapat sa top tau magumpisa?? Ako rin pabor sa pag prosecute ng erring officials kaso po me padrino sila sa malacanang eh.. kaya dapat po ung sa malacanang muna ung dapat alisin

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beijing

July 25th, 2005 at 12:02 pm

penpenpen88,

IMHO (ulit) Sa baba dapat, yung pila papuntang presidency galing sa baba diba? Kung sa taas mo puputulin tutubo pa rin ng tutubo, dapat sa baba umpisahan ng ayusin.

Kahit gano kagaling o kabait ang Presidente kung yung mga nasa baba niya o mga local officials ay iba ang interes, hindi siya susunduin. It will be a lameduck presidency.

Regarding muttinationals, thats part of the game kahit saan ka pumunta, we must accept this as a challenge.

At least, we agree to disagree.

Naghihintay ako ng alternatives from the oppostion, wala akong marining. Kasi maski sila, iba iba ang gusto nilang alternatives, ayaw lang nila magsalita ngayon dahil they will alienate each other. Hintayin nilang maalis si GMA before they fight each other.

Haay, in the end who loses out. Tayo. Either way.

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penpenpen88

July 25th, 2005 at 12:03 pm

cromwell
-One thing to admit to a problem. Another thing to being the problem. Big difference. Would just to point that out, baka kasi in the midst of your witty but really very hard to understand statements, and desire to come out like our other two distinguished eloquent posters here you might have missed that point. peace..=)-

Also, the Philippines “formally” adopted the US system, but substantively, it has always been different. by abinales
-I agree we are very different from the americans. And for all they’re faults one must point out that what we lack and that they have is a sense of nationalism or patriotism. Kaya siguro if ever me corruption sila di garapalan. Another is their sense of fair play. Pag me mali kailangan sabihin, di sila uto-uto in short.-

We’ve taken “freedom” to heart like the dumb adolescent that our country is. We use it as an excuse to elect fools to office only to flick them off the pedestal we helped them climb onto with even more foolish displays of street parliamentarianism exerpts from benigno.
-Don’t think we have the monopoly on that. If you try to extend your scope of research and look at most latin countries or to be precise those countries that the church or any sectarian organizations meddle in the political affairs of the state. You have weak democracies, weak institutions. Kaya nga po nakalagay yung seperation ng church at state eh. Precisely because church policies doesn’t necessarily jive with whats good for the country.- Forget all those macro or micro or whatever policies muna.. Focus on population control and the death penalty first then the others.

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penpenpen88

July 25th, 2005 at 12:13 pm

Sa baba dapat, yung pila papuntang presidency galing sa baba diba? Kung sa taas mo puputulin tutubo pa rin ng tutubo, dapat sa baba umpisahan ng ayusin.
-Excuse me how do u start from the bottom eh karamihan nga sa population natin poor di literate naka kapit sa patalim?? At sinong mag iinstigate ng change ang kasalukuyang administrasyon?? Mga mayors na gusto ganun pa ring status quo?? dati pa sinimulan na sana nila if they have those intentions na magbago tau fo the better.A country is like a business. You hire managers to run it. If your not satisfied with his/her performance dahil nalulugi ang company dapat syang palitan. Ex. Nissan was a loosing venture pinasok ng fiat yung new owner si carlos goshn di sya jap french-arab sya in just two years he turned the company around. Makes sense di ba?? Why should we expect any less?? ganun na ba kababa pagtingin natin a ating sarili na were willing to settle for a cheating lying president dahil ayaw natin yung alternative?? esep esep

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beijing

July 25th, 2005 at 1:35 pm

penpenpen88,

Sorry to again contradict your thoughts. You have a point and i believe I have a point too. This discussion will go no where because of the high emotions involved.

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penpenpen88

July 25th, 2005 at 1:47 pm

Nope its people in malacanang and those oppositionsists that are high with their respective emotions. Malacanang people kasi mawlala na ang power and money nila. People in the streets because frankly naalala lang naman sila pag malapit na ang eleksyon eh. Pag tapos na baliwala na sila. But personally its all logic to me.. or the lack of it. Command responsibility lang po, a manager is tasked to turn a business to profit. If he/she fails to do so he should be fired and replaced. Don’t you watch the apprentice? Dapat ganun ipairal natin sa lahat ng kawani ng gobyerno. Di yung wala nalng po tayong imik habang unti unti tayong nilulunon ng buhay…

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amungcal

July 26th, 2005 at 1:10 am

clarification: Regarding the 1,204,000 and 122,000 figures….

When you get the margin of votes between GMA and FPJ in the last year’s COMELEC final result, you will get about 1,226,000 votes in favor of GMA.Shockingly,GMA got about 1,204,000 margin of votes in Cebu alone.If we substract this on the total margin of GMA’s votes, then she only had about 122,000 margin of votes nationwide excluding Cebu.This is statistically improbable because Cebu is not an obvious bailiwick of GMA.Bigger margin of votes between two candidates is probable only in obvious bailiwicks like paternal Pampanga and maternal Pangasinan.

Bloggers please read my previous comment here.

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nhyak

July 26th, 2005 at 9:47 pm

Mga tol,
Gloria must step down!..Kakahiya sya! kapal ng mukha! Wag na dapat magantay ng kung ano-anong trial. “Delikadesa” na lang may nga anak pa naman sya at tatay nya ay dating pangulo ng pinas.
Gloria must resign! (wag na maging tuko)

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amungcal

July 30th, 2005 at 6:58 pm

SWS admitted last that its exit poll released by AMA and ABS-CBN was dead wrong.The review panel of SWS exit poll found discrepancies between the exit poll and official and NAMFREL results respectively.In statistics,to verify if survey is valid,we have to compute the absolute mean deviation of the exit poll results and official results.If the absolute mean deviation is less than 1 percent then the exit poll is valid or it is otherwise.In fact,I computed the absolute mean deviation to be at 2 percent,therefore,the exit poll is not valid.According to the SWS review panel composed of 4 academics and 3 MORES members,the sample size was erroneous due to non-response incidence of many respondents that cut short the required number of sample spread nationwide.Though the sampling techniques are sound and valid,however,non-response incidence affected gravely the exit poll results and the margin of error was understated at +,_ 1.5 percent when it should be at +,- 2.5 percent.
Curiously and curiously,the NAMFREL tally halted its count last elections at 79 percent only.If we compare the NAMFREL tally with the official results,I computed their absolute mean deviation at .4 percent,less than 1 percent to verify its validity.However,this is still incredible when you look at unofficial,partial,incomplete counting of NAMFREL at 79 percent when 21 percent was still unaccounted for.CAN ANYONE READ THIS!

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amungcal

July 30th, 2005 at 7:10 pm

Not to mention,TNS Trends is the only marketing arm of SWS and PULSE ASIA to conduct nationwide surveys and exit polls.It is headed by a pro-Arroyo named Mercy Abad.SWS Mahar Mangahas said last year that he was very unsure how did the exit poll commit grave error when in fact it applied the same sampling technique of multistage stratified sampling so he formed an independent review panel to investigate this discrepancy.The panel found out the non response incidence by respondents that cut short the sample size and affected the spread of the multistage stratified sample nationwide skewed the margin of error that resulted to this discrepancy between the exit poll results and official results.

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INSIDE PCIJ: Stories behind our stories » Mike Defensor’s offense

August 12th, 2005 at 6:05 pm

[…] Dickey’s findings were also only categorical as far as the track involving the time code 00:00:33.00 to 00:00:35.00, which is associated with a male speech, as being "inconsistent with the rest of the recording." Anomalies associated with the track referring to the part where “yung dagdag” is mentioned (time code 00:00:29.00 to 00:00:36.00), he said, will require further analysis. […]

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INSIDE PCIJ: Stories behind our stories » “Yung dagdag, yung dagdag” revisited

August 21st, 2005 at 9:50 am

[…] IN response to Anak ng Jueteng’s comments, his observation indeed jibes with the findings of our source with respect to the "yung dagdag" conversation. When our attention was drawn to this conversation a month ago, we couldn’t make sense of some portions as Pres. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo’s reply is garbled in the recording. Upon enhancement of a sound engineer then, all we heard was her telling poll commissioner Virgilio Garcillano this: “… Namfrel does not tally…pero yun nga, yung dagdag, yung dagdag (but you know, the padding, the padding).” […]

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rmac1522

September 1st, 2005 at 10:53 pm

i agree with leebundz. anti-gma forces have nothing to offer but their loud, dirty and bad mouth. its easy to criticize the government but all of the oppossition have been in the government before and they have done nothing.poor philippines. im in canada now and i can see the difference in the 2 countries. its sad that instead of helping the government to lift the country out of poverty.our politicians just do the oppossite.

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noelet

September 1st, 2005 at 11:18 pm

rmac1522, i’ll forgive you for being out of the country.

enjoy the snow.

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peacelabenpinay

December 13th, 2005 at 10:42 am

Have we gotten so confused about the difference between right and wrong? I do not care whether Ate Glue expressly asked Garci to rig the elections. I do not care about the details of their conversations. I do not care is she mentioned the word “dag-dag”. The only thing that matters to me is the fact that GMA-the highest offiicial of the Republic of the Philippines called up a well-known crooked COMELEC official during election time. What is wrong here is the mere act of calling a COMELEC official while the votes are still being counted. And this is how history will judge all of us- a nation which cannot comprehend what is moral from immoral and what is right from what is wrong. What a bastard and pathetic race!

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Filipino Librarian

February 3rd, 2006 at 11:01 pm

FO: MapCentral

Did you know that there’s a “Hello, Garci?” building?

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otcgov

February 11th, 2006 at 6:04 pm

It’s not what we know. It’s not what she did. It’s what we are going to do about it.
If we fail to get enough people to do the right thing, then we deserve the country we have today and the country I dread we are going to have tomorrow.
And no, I don’t mean that we all peacefully support the self-installed power hungry economist.

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hiiamdib

February 15th, 2006 at 1:59 pm

Kung mapapatalsik si PGMA sa government sa tingin ba nang bansa yun ang kasgutan sa mga problema. Let us say na napatalsik na sa PGMA, anu na ang mangyayari? Makakapagsimula ba agad tyo para sa bagong umaga? kala mo kasi magagaling ang mga tiga oposisyon… popular lang sila pero sa huli matutulad din sila kay erap… Mag sisimula nanamn tyo sa wala gaya nang umalis si erap lalo tyong maghahangad na yumaman agad at maiipit na naman ang bagong presidenteng inupo sa pwesto. Ang hirap sa atin mga balingbing tyo pag naiipit na ang isa, alisan na. Ang hirap kasi sariling interes lang ang pinag lalaban natin. Hindi na ba tyo natuto. Gusto nyo pa ba nang isa pang People power na sa isa pang people power uli hahantong, thats insane

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hiiamdib

February 15th, 2006 at 2:02 pm

civil war is mad. Nais lang yon nang mga taong wla sa katinuan

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otcgov

February 19th, 2006 at 10:53 am

A tragic revolt is mad. It is wrong. We can talk and talk about what is wrong for the Philippines.
Yet, we continuously move towards such a revolt.

Filipinos wake up! It isn’t about PGMA or a certain personality. It’s about a culture of corruption and a people that are so disoriented and fragmented that they fail to solve obvious and basic problems.

We can try to work with PGMA. But it isn’t optimal. It may not even be workable. Because we have a president that is a hostage of powerful groups that will back her in exchange for?? … (acts and favors that are good for nation building?) How we wish this were the case.

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otcgov

February 19th, 2006 at 10:54 am

A tragic revolt is wrong, you are right. We can talk and talk about what is wrong for the Philippines.
Yet, we continuously move towards such a revolt.

Filipinos wake up! It isn’t about PGMA or a certain personality. It’s about a culture of corruption and a people that are so disoriented and fragmented that they fail to solve obvious and basic problems.

We can try to work with PGMA. But it isn’t optimal. It may not even be workable. Because we have a president that is a hostage of powerful groups that will back her in exchange for?? … (acts and favors that are good for nation building?) How we wish this were the case.

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lagundi

March 21st, 2006 at 2:34 pm

I have a proposal. Simple, but efficient. Clean, and quick.

My proposal is this: abolish the COMELEC. In its place, let us put the DPWH. Afterall, all that is needed now to win an election is to buy votes. Money. So, ‘pag wala na ang COMELEC at pinalitan na ng DPWH, hindi na natin idaan sa botohan ang eleksyon. Ipapa-bidding na lang natin. Magaling ang DPWH dyan. Bidding. The position goes to the highest bidder. Invitation to bid lang naman ang kailangan nyan eh. Importante lang na nandun ang media sa opening ng bids. Lalo na ang PCIJ. Pagkatapos, ang lahat ng na-accumulate na pera ay pwedeng ipamigay sa masa, o di kaya’y gawing proyekto na nakabubuti sa lahat.

Advantages: Wala nang magulong kampanya. Wala nang siraan. Di na kailangan ng mga goons, so wala nang election-related violence. Afterall, sa ngayon, ang may pera lang naman ang nananalo. Sa mabuti pa, bidding na lang.

So I say: abolish the COMELEC, and let the DPWH facilitate the bidding.

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INSIDE PCIJ: Stories behind our stories » PCIJ blog turns one year old

April 4th, 2006 at 9:27 am

[…] On a less menacing note, an entry, “Yung dagdag, yung dagdag” generated over 300 comments that we’d like to believe is a record of sorts in the local blogging scene. […]

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doggone dong » Blog Archive » Citizens Congress’ verdict: Gloria guilty

May 15th, 2006 at 11:57 am

[…] The President cheated her way to the Presidency in 2004. The Hello Garci tapes probe provided evidence and led to more evidence of cheating. […]

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jonas

July 7th, 2006 at 12:00 pm

Hindi sagot ang pagpapatalsik kay Greedy Gloria pero dapat pa rin siyang patalsikin.

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Palaweno

July 16th, 2006 at 11:47 pm

If the Garci tapes are fake, then why did GMA say sorry after the tapes came out? The problem with this government is Honesty. It is lie covered by another lie. Even if there is already a direct evidence, they will deny it to the end. The Secretary of Injustice Raul Gonzales is to be blamed, because he acts as an accomplice. He helps delay cases forever or have them dismissed based on who is the one on trial,if is he GMA’s ally, not base on evidence. Our government needs a “general cleaning”. I hope it happens this 2007 elections. There is hope, but we must choose wisely.

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La_Luna

July 28th, 2006 at 4:33 am

Kung nag-Gay language lang sana sina GMA and
Garci, eh di sana walang gulo ngayon…
GMA: Hallooo Gracia!
Garci: Yes mother! Nachukchak ko na po yung mga
chuva ek-ek!
GMA: Bonggacious! Eh yung mga tienes-tienes,
carry na ba?
Garci: Winnie santos mama! Wiz na worry!
Eclavou na ever!
GMA: Ang tarush! Babush!

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INSIDE PCIJ » CBCP calls for credible, orderly polls

January 29th, 2007 at 3:53 pm

[…] The Hello Garci scandal, irregularities in the number of registered voters and tallied votes, and fabricated election returns are among the issues that remain unresolved. […]

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i-site’s 2007 Election Files » CBCP calls for credible, orderly polls

February 20th, 2007 at 4:59 pm

[…] The “Hello, Garci” scandal, reported irregularities in the number of registered voters and tallied votes, and allegedly fabricated election returns are among the issues that remain unresolved. […]

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