LAWYER and blogger JJ Disini, director of the University of the Philippines Law Internet and Society program, blogs his reflections on the legal liabilities that those distributing and in possession of the tapes face with respect to Republic Act No. 4200, or the Anti-Wire Tapping Act. JJ, however, makes a case for the primacy of the people’s constitutional rights of free speech and expression, and the freedom of the press, which are ‘core values of democracy’, over the right to privacy of the public officials involved. So at least, there’s one lawyer whose services “violators” can tap in case things go awry.

For the benefit of those concerned, JJ also compiles in his blog some Supreme Court cases involving the anti-wiretapping law.

Exercise your Constitutional Rights and Distribute the Tape

I’m still amazed that the local Internet community has not seen it fit to distribute Atty. Sammy Ong’s infamous tape at all. So far, only the PCIJ bloggers have risen to the occasion by posting it here. It must be a resource issue. At more than 160 megabytes, hosting the tapes on-line means using up one’s monthly bandwidth in a day.

I understand traditional media outlets have succumbed to pressure from the government and have resigned themselves to discussing the existence of the tape without giving the public the benefit of hearing its contents first-hand.

In this case, the government pressure has taken the form of a threat of prosecution emanating from the Justice Secretary himself. The charge? A violation of the Anti Wire Tapping Law (R.A. 4200) which prohibits not only the unauthorized taping of private conversations, but also: (a) the possession of such tapes with the knowledge of their nature as illegal wiretaps; (b) the replaying of the tapes to any person; and (c) to communicate the contents thereof either verbally or in writing, such as the provision of transcripts. The potential jail term, if convicted, ranges from six months to six years.

Additional pressure has come to bear from no less than the National Telecommunications Commission which has threatened to cancel TV and radio network licenses if they “use their facilities to broadcast or telecast false information or willful false representation.”The NTC reasons that the unauthenticated tape constitutes false information.

Under the circumstances of this case and given the issues involved, I believe the proposed prosecution by the Justice Department and the threatened action by the NTC against media outlets and all other persons engaged in the distribution of the tape would be unconstitutional. These acts of the government are, in my view, violations of our basic freedoms as citizens of this Republic.

Of course, this assumes that the tape contains indeed illegal wiretaps. As of this writing, none of the persons whose conversations were recorded have come forward to categorically admit the authenticity of the tape. Press Secretary Bunye has withdrawn his initial representation that the conversation between the President and “Gary” took place but the tape was doctored. At least Commr. Garcillano can be credited for his consistency — he has from the beginning denied that it’s his voice on the tape. These series of denials on the part of the administration leaves the Justice Department without a complainant. Legally, the threat of prosecution is a hollow one unless the DOJ can present someone who can assert that the tape is indeed an illegal recording.

Still, empty threats have been very successful in suppressing the distribution of the tape and like the unauthorized biography of Former First Lady Imelda Marcos a quarter century ago, the CDs will have to go from person to person in innocent-looking discs. Eventually, enough people will hear it and draw their own conclusions.

I find it especially disturbing that the NTC has added more obstacles to the tape’s dissemination by acting effectively as a censor.Since when has the NTC been the arbiter of content on the air?I thought this was the job of the MTRCB.

In no uncertain terms, I take issue at how the government has reacted to this issue. Since it was Malacañang itself that released the tapes and played portions thereof to the media, then criminal liability should first be placed at its feet and the NTC should question the Press Secretary for disseminating “false information.” That aside, it should be stressed that the government’s reliance on RA 4200 or upon the NTC’s regulatory authority over broadcast companies cannot be taken solely at face value. There is more here than a violation of a penal statute or broadcast policies.

While the President, Comelec Commissioner Garcillano, and others can invoke their Constitutional right to privacy of communications, the courts have already held that a public official’s right to privacy is diminished when the subject matter is one impressed with public interest. There is no doubt that the tapes fall squarely within that category because they tend to assail the integrity of the 2004 national elections and impose criminal liability upon Garcillano for violating anti-graft laws.

Moreover, the privacy claim must be taken in the context of other Constitutional rights in particular, free speech and the freedom of the press. Since the tapes implicate the sanctity of the vote — a core value in a democracy — its distribution and public discussion is absolutely necessary. The distribution of the tapes forms part of political speech and should be entitled to the highest form of Constitutional protection. Free speech was designed precisely to encourage an unfettered discussion of matters involving the State because an informed polity is vital in a functioning democracy. The political fortunes of one administration cannot trump the people’s inherent right to discuss and debate about matters that affect them and their government.

Our courts have upheld the rule that the State is not permitted to impose prior restraints upon the media except upon a “clear and present danger” of substantive evil lawmakers that the State has a right to prevent. The administration has not demonstrated that a “clear and present” danger extends beyond its own survival. The prior restraints employed by the government are the threatened prosecution under RA 4200 and the potential revocation of broadcast licenses.In both instances, the Secretary of Justice and the Chairman of the NTC are abridging free speech and press freedom.Since they are both lawyers, one can only assume that they are fully aware that their acts violate their sworn oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.

We must also remember that the right to suffrage is also involved here insofar as the results of the previous elections may have been determined by things other than the votes cast. I would think that the Constitutional right to suffrage, free speech and the freedom of the press would far outweigh the President’s, a Constitutional Commissioner’s or any person’s claim to privacy.

Constitutional values at stake here and the administration’s various efforts to restrain the distribution of the tapes trample upon Constitutionally-protected rights.When the Constitution says “(n)o law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of expression, or of the press,” it means neither Congress nor the Executive can promulgate any law or executive order to limit the exercise of such rights.To the extent that RA 4200 is being used by the government to restrict the people’s freedom of speech vis-à-vis the tape, it violates the Constitution.To the extent the NTC seeks to impose penalties upon the broadcast industry if it airs the tape, this also violates the Constitution.

In addition, various government officials may also be personally liable under other laws.The Civil Code for example holds any public officer or employee liable for violating a person’s Constitutional rights and liberties.Administrative penalties may be imposed under the Code of Conduct and Ethical Standards which requires public officials to “uphold the Constitution and put loyalty to country above loyalty to persons or party.”Other potential liability may involve the breach of that official’s oath to uphold the Constitution and in the case of the President, a ground for impeachment.

In conclusion, the distribution of the tape in question is not a criminal offense simply because this is an exercise of one’s freedom of expression and any attempt by the government to prosecute a person for violating RA 4200 in this instance would be unconstitutional and invalid.The same would be true for any sanction the NTC may impose upon broadcasting companies which air or play the tape in public.

Now, can we move on and figure out other ways of distributing the tape?

196 Responses to ‘Exercise your constitutional rights and distribute the tape’

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masha

June 15th, 2005 at 1:10 pm

we’ve been trying to inform people where they can download the tapes and read the transcripts. the mainstream news media, however, is a major stumbling block. they have yet to report on the contents of the tapes even though it is clearly a valid news item. have they been cowed or are they on the take?

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journeyist

June 15th, 2005 at 1:17 pm

The MTRCB may have not been used this time because its credibility is still heavily tainted by its illegal gag order imposed on all tv networks which was later withrawn by the same MTRCB…

…Then there’s the banning of a personality (bro Eli Soriano) from appearing on any tv program, be it free tv or cable, on any kind of tv program. Imagine banning a tv personality instead of a tv program! How absurd can this government get?

Were they thinking so low of the Filipino that they thought they can impose an undeclared martial law?

I suggest the CD vendors in the street should be allowed to sell the Glori-Garci tapes as well so all who have no access to the internet can listen to it at their own convenience…

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BoyG

June 15th, 2005 at 1:31 pm

I don’t think the local internet community has been lacking in “redistributing” the tapes. But resource is an issue and most of the distribution has been going on through the P2P Networks. Downloads have been brisk on Bit Torrent, I hope it stays that way. I wonder how the mainstream media will handle this?

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Atty C

June 15th, 2005 at 2:17 pm

I am also distributing copies of the transcript and CDs of the audio files I got from your site. I am sharing them with my friends so that they too will be informed of how we were cheated by GMA. By the way, GMA is in the June 13, 2005 cover of Time with a caption “The Lord Put Me Here”. I think the more appropriate caption should be “Garcillano Put Me Here”.

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long71

June 15th, 2005 at 2:41 pm

the really best way to distribute this to the ‘common tao’ is through selling it on the streets.i saw last nyt at the news student activists selling the gloriagate for 5 pesos per cd.i hope to see more activists from cause oriented groups selling the cd( either the audio cd or the vcd version with subtitles) all over the streets of metro manila and in the provinces.

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ryan1818

June 15th, 2005 at 2:54 pm

media should be allowed to broadcast the “true” tape

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journeyist

June 15th, 2005 at 3:19 pm

TIME Magazine should have been more inquisitive.

When Gloria said “The Lord Put Me Here”, they should have asked “…which Lord, madame? …the Jueteng Lord or the Dagdag-Bawas Lord?

Sorry. I think this should be more appropriate in the humor thread…

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crd_web

June 15th, 2005 at 3:23 pm

The truth about President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo

I wish someone would download the mp3 version and record it on tape recorder and distribute to all bus and jeepney drivers.

quote: Atty C
By the way, GMA is in the June 13, 2005 cover of Time with a caption “The Lord Put Me Here”. I think the more appropriate caption should be “Garcillano Put Me Here”.

I think the more appropriate would be “The Jueteng Lord Put Me Here”. As she allegedly use the jueteng funds for her wide spread election fraud.

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nhoonon

June 15th, 2005 at 3:37 pm

Im very interested about that contrversial CD… where ca i download it?
So i can practice my constitutional rights!

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Ted

June 15th, 2005 at 4:03 pm

I do not see RA 4200 as a legal bar to media outlets playing the tapes over and over again. It is not so much a function of freedom of expression but a duty on the part of responsible media (not paid media) to let the people know the truth. Besides, if Totoy Wangwang (as Arnold Clavio so felicitously names him) so much as lifts his pen to sue any responsible media outlet that airs the tapes, you can count on me to defend you.

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jammer

June 15th, 2005 at 4:23 pm

saan ba pwede mag download?

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Alecks Pabico

June 15th, 2005 at 4:59 pm

Thanks, Atty. Te. We know we can count on you. :-)

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Alecks Pabico

June 15th, 2005 at 5:02 pm

Jammer, check this post.

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parge_3000

June 15th, 2005 at 5:03 pm

i’m very interested with that conversation, please help me to download,anyway i’m using limewire now but it can’t start downloading it need’s more sources.

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claymore

June 15th, 2005 at 5:10 pm

ang mga tao gutom hindi tanga. naiintindihan nila ang nangyayayri. ano ba ang kaibahan ng rehimen marcos sa ngayon? sabagay mas maganda pa noon, ang tao supil pero busog. Napakalaki ng hinanakit ng taongbayan sa diyaryong Phil. Daily Express…ayy Inquirer pala, isang diyaryong inaasahang magsasabi ng katotohanan sa harap ng ano mang pagsubok. Pero masdan mo ang nagmamalinis na pahayagan, ang pahayagan sandigan daw ng katotohanan, ang pahayagan lumalaban sa ano mang katiwalian. Paki paliwanag po sa kanila, Mr. Conrado de Quiros, na kasama sa katiwalian ang pag poprotekta ng pangsariling interes. Hindi sa laki ng ibinabayad ng mga advertisers itinatapat ang katotohanan. Tinagurian isang institusyon ang inyong pahayagan, sinisira ninyo sa paggawa ng mga bagay na inyo ring dating kinamumuhian. Nasa harap ninyo ang katotohanan……anong halaga ng salapi o pangsariling interes ang katapat niyan upang maging isang kasinungalingan. NAPAKALUNGKOT!!!

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Alecks Pabico

June 15th, 2005 at 5:11 pm

parge_3000, try the torrent file.

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scout

June 15th, 2005 at 6:26 pm

hi Alecks!

there is a shorter (30-minute) version of the tape in http://www.stexposure.tk. the mp3 file is less than 2MB, and should take no more than 10 minutes to download. i think those that have dial-up connections will find this more convenient.

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scout

June 15th, 2005 at 6:29 pm

i think the link was somehow screwed. again, it’s http://www.stexposure.tk – please click.

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floyd

June 15th, 2005 at 6:49 pm

the point here is if it is still possible to prove if the voices are authentic or not notwithstanding the fact that the media is being held against its will and right to air the contents of the tapes. we should turn our eyes towards our lawmakers, senators, congressmans, civil society and cause oriented groups to stand for what is right. the cd is no different from the sex scandals being featured in a number of documentaries in different channels. the difference only is that it lacks the sex… (but we’ll never know maybe thats what ong is really hiding)

as i see it the NTC is trying to pry our eyes away from solutions by placing a lid of confidence that we only question its authority to censor the stations.

the next stage would be in the senate and the other departments as the fourth state is already being demonized and nobody, no one would stand against it but the internet community. it is not far from reality that they may hire certain hackers and curtail our freedom in the web…

this time the revolution is done through the net.

i just hope that everyone has access to it.

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floyd

June 15th, 2005 at 6:54 pm

theres a problem with your comment page… it wouldnt confirm my comment but when i track back its already there sorry…

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Naz

June 15th, 2005 at 10:43 pm

If it is ok. I have no malicious intent or any sort. But currently iam already distributing the audio. And heck no! No price on it! Iam distributing it for, YES FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS! And i thank PCIJ and everyone here for making it truly possible. Ofcourse before I give out these recordings i explain to my friends one by one why this and why that. And yes, I have prepared myself how to deal with the authorities. Ofcourse NO violence involved but to simply why i can. And my duly rights. Although I go against selling these recordings. My goal is to share to people what really is going on. What bad and cheating has been going. Corruption… yeah.. I do pray. I belive in God. Faith.. We need a new system.. I know God will takecare of it. :) Godbless, and takecare!

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SICK of us...

June 15th, 2005 at 10:44 pm

We as Filipinos do have RIGHTS…but then again we have a notion that our rights are absolute and tend to forget the RESPONSIBILITY each right entails. I am so disheartened about all the fuss about the so-called taped conversation. I believe that the main issue that we should all be concerned with is, if the PRESIDENT of the Philippines’ call was indeed tapped, what happens to common citizen’s security. Do we not have the RIGHT for privacy too!? First of all, I believe that the motives for bringing this out is so doubtful since the said conversations could have been brought to public attention even before the elections. I guess the people behind this needed some time, expertise and equipment to stage this. First, ERAP now we are too boot out another President!?!? I guess then the best thing to do is to not have any Presidents anymore and rule ourselves. Which is what I believe every FILIPINO wants anyway. PGMA is by far the only PRESIDENT we have had in years that is really working to ensure our future and she is somehow succeeding (stock market is growing, the PESO was stabilizing, more jobs are being created, investor confidence is getting better)….WE AS A NATION NEED TO ACT STRAIGHT!!! WE NEED TO USE THE THING IN BETWEEN OUR EARS MORE RATHER THAN WASTING OUR AUDITORIES FOR GOSSIPS!!!

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archer

June 15th, 2005 at 10:49 pm

A relative of mine was able to get an mp3 copy of “gloriagate scandal” distributed in Baclaran by KADAMAY. I just hope copies of which proliferate the sidewalks within the week for public consumption. For once, piracy should be widely advocated. Bisidi! Bisidi!

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archer

June 15th, 2005 at 10:53 pm

Aww.. some unnecessarily long “sick” comment eh!

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Naz

June 15th, 2005 at 10:57 pm

And one more thing I want to share… alot are asking about this.. but there is NO SUCH THING as a SOFTWARE that can MANIPULATE VOICES of HUMANS. Unless you want to manipulate Darth Vaders or Yodas voice.. maybe.. but there is no such thing! Thats one thing there. Just my two cents. Godbless and takecare everyone!

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long71

June 15th, 2005 at 11:13 pm

SICK OF US–HELLO GARCI? :-)

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archer

June 15th, 2005 at 11:20 pm

Sick of us…-Hello Ma’am? :)

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juanbagwis

June 15th, 2005 at 11:20 pm

Why dont the PCIJ sent the tape themselves for investigation or authentication ( not to the NBI of course), at least you will be acceptable to both sides. Sabihin nating ok ang pag aauntheticate ni Lacson at Tatad, sasabihin lang nila na taga-oposisyon yan eh katulad din ng pagiging biased nila Belinda Cunanan ( asawa ay nasa PNOC) at Amado Doronilla ( naghihintay ng post ng ambassador) . Hope also that the media wont be a party to the ongoing cover up na nangyayari. Change strategy sila ngayon, they will deny na may nangyaring usapan nuong eleksyon, opinyon pansarili ni Bunye daw yung pinalabas nya. Naghahanda sila ng script para kay Doble naman. Sisirain naman ng NBI ang kredibilidad ng mga whistle blowers. kakahol naman sa kongreso ang mga Doberman ng palasyo.

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silhouette

June 15th, 2005 at 11:39 pm

I have a copy of the hello garci ring tone. Just direct me where i should email it to have it posted here for download of everybody.

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juls2002

June 15th, 2005 at 11:54 pm

media should help..anyone here knows alladin bacolodan of abs-cbn i think he’s doin his job right…keep up the good work…

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everlive

June 15th, 2005 at 11:58 pm

i’m giving my friends copies of the mp3s. i’d upload them, if i can. but i only have 50mb of webspace. sooo.. i’m going to go the pirate’s way. :)

and i’m still wondering why the tapes were released just this time. not earlier, like just after the elections, or pgma’s oathtaking or something.

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masha

June 16th, 2005 at 12:31 am

sick of us, so ok lang sa yo na ang presidente mo ay nandaya at from all accounts ay willing mangidnap? pakitingnan nga uli ang ibig sabihin ng gossip. the existence of the tapes is a fact, the contents has not been contested by gma. yung mga chuwariwap niya nagsasalita pero siya hindi. that to me is tacit acknowldegment.

yung mga sinabi mong gains ay illusory. tumaas ng konti ang peso dahil mahina ang dolyar. ano ang indicia mo of investor confidence. sa alam ko naglilipatan na ang mga investors.

naisip mo ba yung mga pobreng taong niloloko ng mga arroyo sa jueteng? so ok lang sa yo na tuloy ang ligaya ng mga arroyo? na tratuhin ito na parang walang nangyari? ikaw, kung gusto mong i kompromiso mo ang iyong pagkatao, nasa sa iyo yan. ako, di ako papayag na ganun-ganun na lang.

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The J Spot

June 16th, 2005 at 2:14 am

Exercise your constitutional right

Alecks republishes on INSIDE PCIJ Atty. JJ’s blog post on distributing the tape.

Things are getting hotter by the minute as copies of what are allegedly the President’s conversations with a Comelec Commissioner…

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marubdob

June 16th, 2005 at 3:11 am

isa si sick of us sa mga taong napipiringan ang mga mata o sadyang nagbubulagbulagan sa mga pangyayari. tulad na ng nabanggit, hindi si gloria ang dahilan ng pag angat ng piso kundi ito ay dulot ng mahinang dolyar ng estados unidos. kung si glorya nga ang himalang galing sa diyos bakit ang mga dayuhang mamumuhunan ay nagkakandarapa pagtatao ng negosyo sa mga karatig nating bansa tulad ng vietnam at tsina. kung mayroong umunlad sa loob ng apat na taon ng kaniyang nakaw na pagkapangulo iyon ay dili iba ang kanyang pamilya. patunay? ayon na rin sa inilahad na SAL, si iggy pidal at mikey pidal ay kabilang sa 10 pinakamayayamang mambabatas sa pilipinas. kaibigang sick of us, gumising ka at napag-iwanan ka na sa pansitan!

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g3

June 16th, 2005 at 3:22 am

Sick of Us,

Your first premise is totally derailed. The conversations took place after, not before, the elections. How can Garci and Tita Glo repair the damage when it has not been inflicted yet? Siguro sa galit mo nakkalimutan mo ang mga importanteng detalye, ano?

Sabi mo we as a nation should act straight and use the thing (gray matter tawag doon sir) between our ears. To act straight and use our gray matter, we first have to be objective and rational. At tsaka, calmado pare. Relax ka lang. Nanggagalaiti ka sa pag-tanggol kay Gloria. Do you stand to gain anything by just standing on the wayside and watching things happen as if Gloria is immaculately clean? No amount of achievement and scholastic background can justify a crime against public trust and, more importantly, against basic morals. That is why people like us would like to dig deeper to give Gloria as much chance as possible to explain herself because we believe in the basic prnciple of due process. Kaya lang, nakakabingi ang kanyang katahimikan. Sabi nga ng isang joke. Bakit kaya siya tahimik? Sagot: Baka daw mabosesan! Joke lang yan ha at di ako ang author. Sharing lang ‘to.

Relax lang ha. Huwag mag-iinit. Discussion lang ito. Whatever happens to the Garci-Gloria tapes and the juetengate scandal, love for neighbor should prevail. Regardless of the events that are unfolding now, I want to say that I like Gloria. I really like her. To step down.

Peace!!!

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g3

June 16th, 2005 at 3:42 am

everlive,

I can’t figure out where you stand. Are you for or against what Gloria -Garci and company did as heard in the tapes (or perhaps as seen on print)? In any case, yung tanong mo sa dulo ng message mo, nagtataka ka bakit ngayon lang nilabas.

My God, you expect that well-guarded document to be immediately available soon after they were taped? Remember, they were produced (the tapes) after the election and shortly before the hasty proclamation of The Gloria. If you are the bugger, you’ll know that Gloria will win kasi pinag-uusapan yan sa tapes di ba? So pag-ikaw ang wiretapper at alam mo mananalo si The Gloria , maglalakas loob ka bang gumawa ng kakaiba like divulge the tapes or maybe sell them?

Siyempre alam ng ISAFP ang kakayahan ni Gloria. Nakita na nila yan sa maraming mga rallies na kung saan maraming nahaharang, hinahabol, napupukpok or nasusugatan. Mismo sina FPJ at Mayor Binay naranasan yan sa Welcome Rotonda after the elections. Sa EDSA III nga may mga napaslang pa. Ngayong mukhang marami na ang nawawalan ng gana kay The Gloria, lumabas na rin ang mga tapes kasi may po-protekta na sa mga wiretappers na lumantad. May mga bagong kakampi sila at dumarami ang kakampi.

Yan ang aking pananaw diyan sa concern mo kung bakit ngayon lang inilabas ang mga tapes. In short, this is the right time sa palagay ng mga taong sangkot tulad nila Atty. Samuel Ong, T/Sgt. Vidal Doble, Atty. Allan Paguia, Senator Lacson and Former Senator Kit Tatad.

As for me Everlive, I am clear where I stand. I like Gloria. I really like her. To step down.

g3

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masha

June 16th, 2005 at 3:47 am

gloria is now asking mike velarde to help her. makikita natin ngayon what this mike velarde is made of. he did not give his total support to gloria. parang nasa fence pa siya. pinag-aaralan ang pulso ng mga tao siguro. baka iwanan siya ng mga followers niya pag garapalan na. pero kung tabula rasa yung mga el shaddai members he might just go on ahead and fully support gloria. he has much to gain personally by it. remember he got a reportedly favored multi m/billion peso housing loan from gsis which is headed by a brod of fair-haired boy mike defensor.

so again the goal is to reach as many people as possible.

nb. pansin ko lang andaming mike na characters na involved sa mga issues ngayon.

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masha

June 16th, 2005 at 3:59 am

everlive, may theory na nagsasabi na kaya ngayon lang lumabas ito ay dahil unang-una, kampo ni gma ang nagpa tap ng phone ni garci para i-check kung babaligtad siya. so since di naman bumaligtad, wala namang use for it. remember isafp under orders from the admin ang may hawak ng tapes. bago maka biyahe itong mga tapes na ito at makarating sa atin kailangan (1) ang mga nakakaalam about the tapes sa isafp ay konsensyahin or ma-disgruntle tapos (2) makaabot ito sa isang taong may personalidad (yung papansinin ng mesia) na makapaglabas ng ganitong uri ng scoop.

it is highly likely that had FPJ’s camp known about this tape at the time the tapped conversations took place, we would have known about it sooner.

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Maria

June 16th, 2005 at 5:54 am

Why people are threaten to dowload or distribute the tapes? this material wasn’t acquired illegally. I’m a filipino/american citizen. I’m aware of my first amemdment rights and the intellectual property Law that was pass and sign by President Clinton. Whoever wants to takes my right as a US citizen they have to answer to my federal government. I was reading the news about Justice Secretary Raul gonzalez, threatening everyone of lawsuits downloading and broadcasting the Gloria tape. Gee, duh! he needs to go to federal court to obtain subpoena to be able to file lawsuit to each individuals who downloaded the tapes. They won’t issue him at our federal court if Gonzalez can’t substantiate his allegations. Our judicial system here are based on proofs not specualtions. How he could get copies on our Ip’s on website without obtaining subpoena? he need to go to federal court. he he he he Gonzales have to work his behind to do all of these and by the way, I hope he can afford to pay for all of these individual lawsuits. There are millions all over the world in Europe, US, Asia and other countries combined who acquired and downloaded the tapes. How in the world, he can trace and track all of them! I think Gonzales need to get a life!

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Caren

June 16th, 2005 at 7:11 am

This is the only site where the tape can be downloaded. I first saw the downloadable tape in the inquirer site, but was shocked to see that it has stopped doing so because of the KBP’s ban. Im not surprised for the order of the KBP…I know the president and her administration would do all the possible (as well as the impossible means) to hinder the distribution of the said tape.

I’ve seen last night in the news that the students were distributing the tapes. But I’ve also seen one incident in the news wherein the police “supposedly” stopped the heavy traffic of people in Baclaran, where in fact the people were just buying (others were just looking) for the tape that a young man was holding. After the man was sent to the headquarters of the police, the man was not holidng the CD anymore. When the reporter asked for the CD, he answered he gave it to his “kumpare” ; but, it’s obvious the police confiscated the CD.

I’ve read in the newspapers this morning that the police sent three people who were putting up posters to jail for sedition (where in fact, their first offense was tumults and other disturbances).

With these incidents, I’m just curious, are we still in a democratic country? Where are our constitutional rights that we are proud of? I agree with Atty. JJ Disini, we should exercise our rights and distribute the true tape.

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Atty C

June 16th, 2005 at 8:18 am

Don’t be afraid to distribute the tape or cd. I am also distributing them including photocopies of the transcript (which I limited to 15 pages with the most interesting and incriminating parts). The people are not doing anything now because they do not know what’s going on. So the least we can do is to have this blown wide open, and I congratulate PCIJ and you guys out there who share this same obligation. I have asked my friends and students, and most of them have not even heard the tape or conversations yet. I am sure once they hear it, they will feel the same outrage we are now feeling, of how this shameless president will stoop down so low, just to win.

By the way, if ever you are caught in possession of the tape or cd, the government cannot charge you with violating the anti-wire tapping act, because first, they have to prove that what you have is indeed from a wiretapped material. Since GMA is not coming out to deny or admit it is her voice, even Garcillano denied it is his voice, then there is no complainant. And do you think GMA will ever admit it is her on the tape? (The government is indeed in a dilemma!) The person who wiretapped the parties, presumably agent Doble, is likewise mum, so there’s no way they can prove that what you have is wiretapped. Raul Gonzales and Wycoco are just trying to intimidate the people so that they will not listen to the tapes or cds. And judging from the silence of some media outfits, I think they have partially succeeded. But let us not be intimidated by Gonzales, Wycoco and all the puppets of GMA. If they are really serious, how come they haven’t charged Atty Ong and Atty Paguia with violation of the anti-wire tapping act? By the way, I am offering my free legal service to support this claim.

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everlive

June 16th, 2005 at 9:53 am

g3,

i am against gloria. never liked her. but still, if she steps down, then the person most likely to take the presidency would be noli. which i believe would be worse.

are you confused about my stand because of my question? i was just wondering, because the tapes were so timely, at the height of a jueteng scandal involving the arroyos.

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archer

June 16th, 2005 at 11:11 am

PCIJ,

Once again, this is what you call journalism at its best! Indeed, you are the epitomize of responsible and no-nonsense reporting, sana dumami pa kayo! Your uncanny handling of the issues is already snowballing, congrats in advance.

Atty C,
Mabuhay ka! If only all the lawyers would act your way, one week woul already be too long for Gloriagate. Indeed, malacanan is too desperate to shun the issue by preventing circulation of gloriagate to the point of treating the public na para bang walang kakayahang magisip. Kung babasahin mo mga pagmumukha nina Gonzales, Wycoco and Bunye it is pretty obvious sila mismo di convinced sa pinagsasabi nila, napakapathetic. In time, in due time, chips would fall into their right places.

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archer

June 16th, 2005 at 11:14 am

epitome..:)

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Maria

June 16th, 2005 at 11:35 am

ATTY C I admire your courage and explaining the law to the filipino people. I’m watching the TFC channel here in USA, the filipino lawyer had explained exactly what you had said. She said, GMA and Garci have to file complain against someone wire tapping them. She said exactly how you explain it, there’s no way that these 2 characters will come out and file complain, it is just like admitting to the whole world ” Yes, we rigged the election, that’s me and Garci talking and I’m angry that someone wire tap our conversation. I’m here to submit my complain or suit against John Doe et al” ha ha ha ha ha ha
I feel sorry for the filipino people for the ” threats” using by a person in authority like Gonzales. Threat here in USA is a crime. Anyone who makes a threat to a US citizen to “intimidate” is a violation of our federal law. If he truely wants to file suit, “cheap talk” doesn’t work to intimidate, send a lawyer and make sure there is a legal teeth.

We’ve posted this site to our website to dowload and read the transcript of the tapes. Filipinos are appaled to learn these. More power to this site!

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journeyist

June 16th, 2005 at 1:17 pm

Ang laki talaga ng nagawa ng PCIJ in these days of seemingly “undeclared martial law”. Kahit Inq7.net naapektuhan at ngayon pati abscbnnews.com nag bukas na rin ng download!

This is already People Power: The Blog Edition!

more power PCIJ and more power to all bloggers and posters here!

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Gracia

June 16th, 2005 at 1:24 pm

please e-mail me a copy of the controversial tape at gracielle_llanes@ yahoo.com

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Alecks Pabico

June 16th, 2005 at 1:44 pm

Hi Gracia. The files are too huge to be attached to an email message. Try downloading them from any of the links provided in this post.

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blue_eagle

June 16th, 2005 at 3:05 pm

Been making cd’s to distribute to friends here in North America. Not everyone has an internet connection or if they do… they hardly use it. For a lot of them, it’s easier to just listen from CD’s. It’s my small way of helping our country go over the martial-law like regime of GMA.

Sobra na…. nakakahiya tayo if we don’t do anything.

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lawspeak_007

June 16th, 2005 at 4:01 pm

Obviously GMA is enforcing a strategy maxim of ” the best defense is offense” by using all her resources including once-disbarred legal claw : Boy Wangwang– to intimidate ordinary folks that the publication or airing of the Gloria-Garci conversation is illegal—including the possession and spread of the ring tone.

On the rate things are going, It will not be a surprise if any moment from now, Gloria will declare martial law— with or without basis at all.
Ganyan na sya ka praning.

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g3

June 16th, 2005 at 4:04 pm

PCIJ Guys,

I admire you. Very timely this job you’re doing. May I suggest that those who are pro and anti Gloria be given separate slots in your website so that government officials who take a peek just to satiate their curiosity, baka sakaling marami pa silang na-u-ulol, will see that thier lot is dwindling and the antis are growing and growing fast. Parang yung pagmultiply nong monster na si Godzilla!

Kasi napansin ko lang parang halu-halo yata ang points of view sa isang hanay.

Salamat po,

g3 (galit kay gloria at garcillano)

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adrl

June 16th, 2005 at 4:11 pm

Can someone who has listened to the whole complete tapes mention wheich set and track contains the “Hello Garci” conversation. Thank you.

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carmel

June 16th, 2005 at 4:16 pm

adrl,

there several conversations between gloria and garci, but if you want to hear the specific phrase “Hello, Garci,” then go to tracks 25 and 27.

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mpolicarpio

June 16th, 2005 at 9:08 pm

i live abroad, and would definitely share the download links to everyone that i know…

also, concerning the TIME magazine article, could someone please write the editor and tell them about the tapes?

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Naz

June 17th, 2005 at 12:50 am

Oh my gash! Thankyou so much Atty C. Youve helped all of us! Well, just in case aswell. Read the laws and everything. Bit by bit. Well, currently distributing the tapes in my school. Ofcourse without causing distruption or kabastusan to the country. My reason, fighting for justice and for good. I want the people to know whats going on. Im praying real hard. Cause I know that there is chance for great change. I mean GREAT change. Yes, no government is perfect. We were all built humbly from dust. But there is still such thing as good! The Philippines still has hope! I belive so! Iam quite serious about this. And I hope more people in my age circle are willing to know. The truth. IF, IF then she cheated on the elections. Some say.. ahh.. it doesent matter this.. ahh.. may sweldo wont change.. ahh.. balewala yan.. But IF, IF then.. its is morally unjust, constitunally unjust, unlawful. And whats this about jobs? With great leaders, many good things will happen! Change for the better is everything. makes the diffrence! We really need something new. Iam praying to God that everything in the Phil will change to the better. It really makes the diffrence. Godbless, and takecare!

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Bro_Moises

June 17th, 2005 at 4:58 am

Isa ako sa mga milyon milyong ofw, Wow grabe na talaga jan sa atin, do we really have a democracy, another laughing issue na we think that we are a democratic government, sana hindi tayo matulog sa mga isyung ito, at maresolba ng mapayapa.

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braddock

June 17th, 2005 at 8:49 am

Bugsey, magaling ka lang mag english eh, pero utak mo, mas malabnaw ka pay Noli De Castro.
1. Its was GMA and Comelec who cheated. Yong accusation mo na ang opposition also cheats, pananaw mo lang yon..walang basis, yong kay GMA, in admit na ni Bunye and even you, admitted it.
2 . Noli so called ” cheatting” on his appearance on TV has nothing to do with his political life. Hello? ganyan ba kababaw ang utak mo. If you consider that cheating, ALL of us are cheaters. WHY? we all put perfumes, does it mean we cheat on our smell? Women put make up, do they cheat on their appearance?
3. If you feel like running for a position is bidding for Comelec to win, ikaw na lang, wag mo idamay sa iba. Ndi ako pinalaki ng ganon. IF ever i run for a government position, I let the people decide for my win, not the Comelec, besides, thats the essence of democracy.

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Abe N. Margallo

June 17th, 2005 at 9:46 am

I would like to post the following piece as my contribution to this exchange. Many of the thoughts in the essay are actually recapitulations of commentaries already featured in my recently published book BUILD or PERISH! that are proving to be quite relevant to the present crisis.
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If not GMA, who? And what’s the alternative?

by Abe N. Margallo*

The mother of all our problems

Former President Fidel Ramos Ramos speaking before the Makati Business Club on August 27, 2003, cited the “unholy alliance” and “perverse symbiosis” between politicians and a few families, powerful, wealthy and “greedy rent-seeking,” to whom many of the former are beholden—which makes the unequal alliance and symbiosis doubly unholy and perverse—as the “mother of all our problems” throughout history.

The sad state of affairs looks more to be a present-day embodiment of the same friar system Spanish era reformists like Dr. Jose Rizal intended to dismantle: a network of entrenched power relations among the friar surrogates, mostly landowning families of Chinese descent who originally had served as stewards for the estates of the monastic orders, morphed into hispanized hacienderos, then transitioned as mutually-buttressing guilds or factions of Marxian bourgeois and cosmopolitan elites.

At the turn of the last century, oligarchy was re-imposed upon the Filipinos after the Americans, in the Madisonian tradition, had recycled the role of the ilustrados plucked out of the ancien regime upon the racist pretext that the Filipinos in general were not fit to govern themselves. The Americanized system has dominated Filipino nationhood ever since down to what it has become today.

Not too long ago, or in December 2003, Romulo Neri, the Philippine government’s chief economist, described the current form of the “unholy alliance” and “perverse symbiosis” as “booty capitalism” practiced by a well-ingrained oligarchy that invests in politicians to curry policy favors and “capture economic power.”

Neri certainly was apprehensive this oligarchy would again control the outcome of the May 2004 elections.

People Power Democracy instantiated

When institutions (civil society), which mediate between families and the State, assert their primacy, the result could be their collectivization into Civil Society. Whereas elitism is the rule of the “privileged minority,” civil society governance is the rule by “minorities.” Civil Society, on the other hand, is a monopoly of the legitimate use of power by the “great majority.” In this context, Civil Society equates with the sovereign will—supreme and absolute. Therefore, Civil Society, theoretically, no less than People Power, empirically, is the conception of the State itself.

To illustrate this, the political system instituted in the American constitution by its founding fathers was a compromise, based on distrust, between, on the one hand, the numerical majority (the masses) together with the minorities (some idealistic elites and middle-class Americans who supported the “leveling” sentiments) and, on the other, the privileged minority (the merchants, financiers, manufacturers, and certain wealthy landholders) as to who, what and when to exercise the monopoly of the powers of Civil Society. The paramount question then was whether to vest the monopoly of those powers in the many at the expense of the few or vice versa.

People Power democracy, on the other hand, is the exercise by the people—the Civil Society—of the republican principle of the “last say” which may result to replace (as in People Power I) or keep (as in People Power II) the existing system. It does not decide particular issues for that would notionally be “direct democracy.” The triumph of People Power democracy should be measured not upon its physical manifestation that successfully brought about the immediate change desired, which is an end in itself, but when the consensus formed by civil society or civil societies—those politically informed, active and diverse minorities groups such as the business sectors, political alliances, labor unions, religious organizations, and the like—is brought to be reckoned with by those formally vested with policymaking. It is thus a continuing “transformative” citizenship. Whenever civil societies are marginalized in the governance process, the result could either the rule by the privileged minority (or the oligarchy) or by the multitude, irrespective of the agreed upon formalities of governance.

In another breadth, the conception of people power represents a critical challenge from civil society groups who have asserted their misgivings with inefficient and ineffectual institutions in our version of democracy and with the rank subservience of those institutions to the dominant segments of our society. In such regard, people power configures an oppositional culture that has affected a broad spectrum of the civil society. The dimension of the challenge is as significant as that of the threat of a rival ideology such as communism or authoritarianism or as real as the menace of terrorism. The concomitant fear that it is a malady in the body politic rather than a curative force in a dysfunctional structure is then understandable from the standpoint of status quo defenders.

Writing more recently about the state of affairs of the “politicized middle class” in the Philippines (inq7.net, January 10, 2004), Prof. Randy David has deplored that its “activism is however weakened by the lack of sustained follow-through . . . (folding) its banners as soon as a crisis has passed, leaving the traditional politicians to mismanage the political investment they have made.” Prof. David however believes that the “politicized middle class could be the key to the transformation of the poor into a potent force for peaceful and meaningful change. And this can happen, in Randy David’s opinion, “(t)hrough popular organizing and education, and through the formation of mass-based political parties . . . (to)help the poor recover their voices and expand their participation in the nation’s life.”

Tracking the political storm

For the purpose of tracking the political storm that is perilously brewing in the Philippines, knowing the difference between the two most recent people’s movements, People Power II and EDSA Tres, is both critical and essential.

Whereas the People Power II coalition made a judgment call only after thoughtful deliberations and reflections among the various groups and individual participants, EDSA Tres was sired through manipulation and instigation by some people who had no intention of treating themselves as co-equal partners in their contrivance. Thus, while People Power II was an exercise of empowerment, EDSA Tres, on the other hand, was a sad shrill of powerlessness.

However, far from being unsettling, insurrections of the EDSA Tres kind are on the contrary stabilizing. It is only when repressed that such movements could become liable to boil up into dangerous intensity.

Today, the GMA regime must not be lulled into believing that a “people power” that has fizzled out is less harmful than the eruption that was EDSA Tres. Remember that having spent its steam during the Palace siege, the EDSA Tres “hothouse” has cooled off relatively uneventfully. In fact during the assault, the EDSA Tres horde has become as rudderless as a decrepit craft and ultimately petered out. Nonetheless, now as then the state of being of the EDSA Tres “rebels” has remained within the tradition of their powerlessness, and kept within that bound, they pose no threats of exploding like Mayon any time soon.

The volcano theory

In the Philippines, the poverty or volcano theory has been often cast, and quite unwittingly, to justify the clamor for societal changes that directly affect the health, safety, property, liberty and general well-being of those who are ensnared in the “hothouse of rebellion” of PCIJ’s Sheila Coronel. At a closer look, those political and societal anxieties thus trapped are no more those of the “cultured” people’s than of the Great Unwashed. Thus, as long as the beautiful ones don’t start preaching armed revolutions, such a clamor could only be taken as earnest attempts to maintain order, not to sow anarchy, and therefore similarly tranquilizing.

It is when cultured people found themselves “at the end of (their) tether” that worries about Sheila’s hothouse would make some sense. Otherwise, there would have been nothing to deprive those, as former Manila Times editor Ms. Malou Mangahas puts it, “toothless, shoeless and shirtless” people, whose mode of survival is “scavenging through other people’s trash,” to incense them to launch a great social revolution.

Didn’t Alexis de Tocqueville warn that “generally speaking, the most perilous moment for a bad government is one when it seeks to mend its ways” and in the process creates unfulfilled promises and expectations?

The Promise

Just to revisit, the promise was that after Marcos things would be better. Cory Aquino, although given the benefit of the doubt perceived as she was by many to be just a transition leader, was not spared of coup attempts precisely due to the failure of the People Power revolution to meet the expectation. Then President Ramos began to deliver. NIChood was at hand under his leadership but the constitutional term limit prevented him from going further. The constitutional water was in fact tested possibly at the thought his most likely successor, Erap, would be unable to keep the benefits he had the best momentum to pursue. Ramos, a good soldier that he is, did not think of himself to be indispensable. Upholding the rule of law, he stepped down at the height of his achievements.

Erap promised to let market and welfare improvements go hand and hand. There was also the perception he would assume rather a rubber stamp than a “directing” role to give his team of experts a freer hand to manage the economy and continue the Ramos’ initiatives.

The loss of “moral ascendancy” of Erap’s government abbreviated GMA’s route to the presidency. But, not wanting to be a magician, the explicit promise of GMA was first to restore moral authority in governance.

After EDSA Tres, there was also engendered an implied promise on the part of GMA’s government to institute social and economic reforms for the benefit of salus populi.

The breach of the promise

While not as severely damaged by the Asian crisis as Thailand, Malaysia, and South Korea, Philippines was slower to recover. Even politically torn Indonesia was not far behind. Meanwhile, the ghost of Marcos was back in Eduardo Cojuanco, Lucio Tan and company.

Erap also foolishly courted a near shooting war with China, cheapened the nation’s morale with jueteng and other indignities, allowed his official family to stab each other in the back, and “Binabalaan ko sila” became a part of the Erap jokes. Erap paid dearly for the breach.

As the specter of the jueteng controversy (confounded by the more serious charges of tampering with the electoral will) begins to be cast upon the doorsteps of the First Family of GMA, a direct breach of GMA’s express promise might be perceived to have taken place. On the other hand, four years of peripheral economic and poverty alleviation programs from a leader who professes to know her economics would likely constitute relative deprivation NOT on the part of those whose violent expression of powerlessness the GMA government had easily quashed during EDSA Tres but of those who would continue to see others being forever rendered powerless.
More and more the country looks like a laughingstock again.

Under the theory of “accelerated relative deprivation,” both expectation and capabilities increase at a steady course, but the former outpaces the latter. A breach of the promise is thus implied from the relative deprivation.
Upheavals happen as a result of relative deprivation.

The Jury is out

Just as reciprocal checks and balances within government are required in a “procedural” democracy, so also are social checks and balances (upon governmental decisions) within the larger society in “people power” democracy. Hence, “manufacture of consent” by the power of suggestion, sinister or otherwise, through television and media politics or through “legal gobbledygook” can claim success only when society acquiesces in it as a rational one.

Therefore, in the current crisis, it is not enough for GMA to tell the people that her opponents are engaged in “dirty politics.” The allegations of her regime’s wrongdoings or “betrayal of trust” in the constitutional sense are very specific. She must in turn disprove them in specific terms. The accusations unanswered, the legitimacy of her government — just as that of the regime of Marcos’ notwithstanding the attempt to legitimize it by the Philippine Supreme Court and the U.S. support — will remain badly tainted to say the very least.

It should be remembered that as the process of legitimization of Macapagal’s ascension to power had taken its course (eventually, it became the subject of the first impeachment against Chief Justice Davide and seven other Supreme Court justices for allegedly conspiring at the height of the EDSA II uprising to put the first legitimizing imprimatur by swearing in Macapagal as Estrada’s successor), people power practitioners like Cory Aquino and Jaime Cardinal Sin began to warn against the habit of resorting to people power. Aquino and Sin conveniently reversed themselves and invoked people power in defense of Chief Justice Davide.

Bad habit or not, people power democracy is not as ready now as when it was summoned to help Davide preserve his seat as the Chief Justice.

On the contrary, to preserve the Constitution and to spare People Power from being sullied unnecessarily, GMA either must seriously consider the still patriotic option of resignation (if not out of sheer Filipino delicadeza) or like Estrada (but unlike Davide) she must submit herself to the constitutional process of impeachment in deference to procedural democracy. However, unlike Estrada, GMA must complete the task of proving her innocence in such a process that also puts on trial the very system in place.

All participants in the constitutional process are called upon to exercise no less than their Solomonic wisdom. If recent experience is any measure, a reasonable perception of failure of the process is likely to oblige the Ultimate Arbiter to weigh in the facts by itself and render its verdict accordingly.

A constitutional coup d’etat

The purpose of impeaching a president is to override his election. It therefore assumes a political dimension beyond mere legality. As a legal process, the procedure and the grounds for impeachment as provided in the Constitution must be complied with. Otherwise, an impeachment is no more than a coup d’etat, albeit a constitutional one.

The political legitimacy of an impeachment process thus rests in the justification of what in effect would be the annulment of the election of the impeached president. Hence, in order for an impeachment to be both legitimate and politically correct, not only that the legal grounds for the impeachment must be proved, it must also be shown that the president no longer deserves the election she is supposed to have won.

Like any democratically elected president (assuming arguendo now that GMA has been democratically elected), GMA (as Erap then) is charged to lead the nation and serve as a symbol of national unity and stability. As such a symbol, the Filipino people look up to her as the national embodiment to inspire confidence in the authority and legitimacy of the political system; she is also expected to marshal her influence within the system in order to initiate the public policies she promised she would do when elected president; and as chief executive, the people conferred in her the trust that he has the competence to supervise the conduct of the government and the economy, and in time of crisis, to reassure and calm the citizenry.

The political goal of a potential impeachment proceding is also to answer whether the President, given the seriousness of the allegations involving her government and her family, can still effectively discharge the high office of the presidency? If not, then un-election through impeachment must carry on.

What’s sauce for the gander is sauce for the goose

The test given by Jaime Cardinal Sin was simpler: Had President Estrada lost the moral ascendancy to govern?

Even more specifically: Was GMA involved, directly or indirectly, in fixing the results of last presidential elections? Did her family receive jueteng payoffs in a manner reasonably knowable by her? These are matters that GMA can easily refute if she is squarely standing on the side of truth. Wiretapping is technically illegal, but are the contents in the tapes substantively true?

Once again, if the impeachment process is pursued, the members of Congress must remember that the Great Beast enters the public arena when procedural democracy fails. Hence, permitting legal technicalities to derail the search for truth is likely to trigger a constitutional breakdown potentially similar to the Dirty 11’s refusal to open the infamous envelope during Erap’s impeachment trial.

It goes without saying that when it comes to the exercise of People Power, the people has the last and final say, not the media, the military, Congress, the President or the Supreme Court.

Beyond a business-as-usual approach to change process

The Philippines is essentially a modern nation and by sheer instinct for growth, it cannot possibly remain a basket case forever.

However, to author its own destiny, the nation has to look into the inner structure of its being: as a community, by rediscovering the public realm that informs it and the strands of solidarity that hold it together; and the individual member, by defining the tasks he assigns to himself, his goals he aspires for, and the values his life rests on, and then determining how his tasks, goals and values are identified with public.

Historical accounts abound about how societies perished or self-destructed when those in a position to exercise the power of governance, by deliberate intent or sheer imprudence, had failed to act, or if they had acted, to account for the consequences of their actions.

Well-meaning citizens normally rise to the occasion and raise fundamental issues directly challenging the underlying assumptions of the established political and economic order when lapses in governance threaten the very existence of a nation. These citizens, sometimes operating inconspicuously, are often perceived as change-agents.

The threshold question on personal leadership and the power of consensus

On the matter of personal leadership the threshold question is: Who among those eagerly waiting in the wings to assume the national leadership has the singular qualification of the power of the will to break up the long-standing “unholy alliance” and “perverse symbiosis” of the wealthy and powerful without breaking the nation apart?

The crossroad issue is not so much about the potential of another transition political leader of a third-rate caliber as the lack of will of any leader to confront the continuing crisis of citizenship among those whose decisions really matter to take the risk of transforming the nation into an economic powerhouse, thereby allowing the country’s full potential to compete with neighbors in the region and in the other regions of the world. If the Philippines needed such a leader at all, she must be one of nearly mythical character and empowered by the people’s faith in her to whip up the wealth producers of the nation; and reining them away from unproductive rent-seeking economic activities, to get all the needed capacities they could muster dedicated faithfully to an economic development plan, strategy and ambition upon being so forged in a broad national consensus.

On the other hand, unquestioning reliance upon the “directing class” has muffled any such an idea of attempting to reach a national consensus (in which the voiceless, through their genuine representative, should be granted a voice) as to what the country really needs to accomplish in order to compete.

In the context of “communicative” people power, one possible alternative proposition is: Whether the gateway to equitable accumulation and ultimately national development could also be accessed by way of the power of consensus of people power democracy that’s willing to learn from the best practices that work and, based on ongoing experience and rising above ideologies, eschew things that don’t, or change even established notions and practices when concrete realities and the complex necessities for change in the service of the common good require.

The Taiwan example

The Taiwan model is an excellent case in point. At the time Marcos placed the Philippines under martial law supposedly to address what the dictator declared was a national emergency and to create a New Society, Taiwan was also struggling to exorcise the twin demons of imminent international eschewal (having lost its seat to the UN) and the crippling energy crisis, and appeared on the way to economic catastrophe. Taiwan emerged triumphantly after BOTH government and private business intensified efforts to implement on schedule economic “grand designs” first by launching development projects aimed at energy production and creating an efficient transportation infrastructure network, while continuing to stimulate the growth of SMEs (Small and Medium Enterprises). Specifically, the projects were for: the development of an integrated steel mill, a shipyard and a petrochemical complex; the building of highways, railways, waterways, airports and harbors; and the construction of nuclear power plants. On the other hand, Taiwan Industrial Technology Research Institute was established in the same period as a non-profit R&D outfit for the purpose of handing down its data and findings for commercial use by private enterprisers.

What’s more, both the government and the family in Taiwan have always believed in investing a great deal in education. Taiwanese are among the best educated people in Asia second only to the Japanese, with only about five percent of the population being considered illiterate, mostly the elderly. The persistent pursuit of universal education and the adoption of flexible and continuing educational policies to meet changing requirements accounted for much of Taiwan’s economic growth.

The elites of Taiwan opted to take enormous risks and bring on ambitious projects because of their “will to develop” driven in large measure by the exigency to showcase the Nationalist regime’s nation-building ability in the midst of the Communist specter from the mainland.

Accelerating the economic development efforts in the following decade, Taiwan targeted the machinery, equipment and information sectors as strategic industries. And through the Industrial Development Bureau, substantial R&D subsidies were directly provided to selected firms while others that did not allot and invest on R&D a prescribed percentage of their annual earnings were penalized. The elites offered real opportunities to the Taiwanese.

What had been earlier treaded as a re-distributional path through broad distribution of land ownership and via the so-called “decentralized industrialization” approach (the latter, as a late-industrialization strategy, being in stark contrast to the high aggregate concentration of the South Korean chaebol model), providing high returns to labor (and consequently household savings and capital accumulation) initially in agriculture and then in countryside export-oriented industries and by what’s now known as singular, solid and sustained efforts in the direction of technology-intensive industry, proved to be the major reasons for the “miraculous” transformation of Taiwan into an economic powerhouse. Even so, Taiwan’s trajectory to pursue “accumulation” ahead of (political) “participation” was essentially in line with the course taken by the other tiger economies in the region.

Other neighborhood paradigms

It seems that the problem today in the Philippines is rather behavioral (especially on the part of private business) than fiscal, bureaucratic or anything.

The Japanese, to cite another neighborhood paradigm, have clearly defined national purpose. Economic growth ranks high as a national goal in Japan to which labor and business are expected to subordinate their private interests. Japan’s MITI is the agency primarily responsible for this coordinated arrangement to ensure the attainment of the industrial development objectives vis-à-vis other economic and social goals.

The South Koreans have the same high sense of national purpose. While business conglomerates were allowed by the State to thrive in protected domestic markets, they also strived to produce for the export market so that during the giant stride by South Korea toward industrialization, which was heavily bankrolled by foreign loans, the ratio of foreign debt to GNP remained virtually the same.

Building a strong republic through entrepreneurship

To build a strong republic the atavism of the political class must be consigned to their caves to make way for the entrepreneurial zeal to take the lead in the pursuit of aggressive growth-oriented strategic “goals.” Specifically, such goals are: aspiring not only for the short-run objective of a domestic market patronizing Pinoy products but for such products with fewer export components to attain the competitive edge for the export market; taking the risk to explore the nation’s great potential for sustainable alternative sources of energy to produce those products without undue reliance upon imported sources; investing enough in our human capital, through quality training and education, as part of the goods of the future; or essentially, producing the right goods the right way doing the best with what we have or potentially should have so that the national “vision” informed by the consensus upon such societal aspirations as decent standard of living for the greatest number, supported by high-income employments that keep our “best and brightest” home, could come into fruition.

Once again, the goals and vision afore-cited demand high levels of capital, human, social and cultural investments and vigorous entrepreneurship with a great sense of national purpose on the part of the economic elites first and foremost.

*Abe N. Margallo writes a column (Red’s Herring) for New Jersey-based Filipino-Asian Bulletin and is the author of “BUILD or PERISH! People Power Democracy Liberating America’s First Empire” (UST Publishing House, 2005).

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Abe N. Margallo

June 17th, 2005 at 9:58 am

Sorry for the duplicate post. I’m just learning how to do it. Pls. just delete it. Thanks.

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bugsey

June 17th, 2005 at 10:25 am






Dear Sick of us –
You’re right. You’re HOT. Yep… I agree. I am also too sick of changing presidents and it seems that there’s always domething WE find wrong with them anyway so why change THIS one? I agree, if we keep changing presidents we might as well NOT have any— that would be cool! Who needs presidents anyway? I mean they only steal from us aside from boring us with endless speeches. But gee.. I love GMA (condontionally) because at least- she’s cute. At least, when I watch her on TV she doesn’t make me TOTALLY sick…there .. there… I agree with you. I am sick of Noli de Castro, I am sick of Ong (he looks like…. some hood) , I am sick of all those oldies in the Senate and House.. I am so sick of ALL of them, and I am so sick of all of us , and I am so sick of the news — I wanna watch Batman!
Do you want a gmail invite? No kidding (gotta get rid of some)
I also have a Valium of you’re really so sick of us and frankly – I do not blame you.

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jun2001

June 17th, 2005 at 10:01 pm

1. There may have been cheating in the elections. GMA cheated, FPJ cheated, both of them have supporters and watchers on the field who wanted their candicates to win – at all cost. Most of the supporters – supported their candicates because – they were hoping for something: a position, a promotion, money whatever. Of course, there will be losers and winners.

2. Are the number of voters on those places mentioned in the tapes = to 3 million votes? Was GMA able to cheat more than 1 million votes there?

3. Granted she resigned, who is going to replace her? Noli de Castro? Rez Cortez? Granted these persons become President, would they take the hard decision on VAT? Or would they just let the budget deficit ballon and declare national bunkruptcy in 3 years? or would they stupidly legislate the prices of oil to 10 pesos per liter to accomodate popular clamor?

4. Why was GMA tapped? who tapped her? Are there FPJ tapes also? Who would do this and why? Are these exposures related to recent events? i.e. US is worried with the warming relationship of Manila and Beijing? GMA pulling out of Iraq.

5. The events are obviously orchestrated – obvious ba? Who are the brains behind this? Why? Whats the bottom line? A national crisis? Peso down to 100 per dollar? A coup d etat?

6. Are we all being played like an ” organ ” by a master?

Who’s interest are being promoted, who is gaining out of this scandal, and who is losing? Is this all for the good of Juan de la Cruz?

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jun2001

June 17th, 2005 at 10:03 pm

1. There may have been cheating in the elections. GMA cheated, FPJ cheated, both of them have supporters and watchers on the field who wanted their candicates to win – at all cost. Most of the supporters – supported their candicates because – they were hoping for something: a position, a promotion, money whatever. Of course, there will be losers and winners.

2. Are the number of voters on those places mentioned in the tapes = to 3 million votes? Was GMA able to cheat more than 1 million votes there?

3. Granted she resigned, who is going to replace her? Noli de Castro? Rez Cortez? Granted these persons become President, would they take the hard decision on VAT? Or would they just let the budget deficit ballon and declare national bunkruptcy in 3 years? or would they stupidly legislate the prices of oil to 10 pesos per liter to accomodate popular clamor?

4. Why was GMA tapped? who tapped her? Are there FPJ tapes also? Who would do this and why? Are these exposures related to recent events? i.e. US is worried with the warming relationship of Manila and Beijing? GMA pulling out of Iraq.

5. The events are obviously orchestrated – obvious ba? Who are the brains behind this? Why? Whats the bottom line? A national crisis? Peso down to 100 per dollar? A coup d etat?

6. Are we all being played like an ” organ ” by a master?

Who’s interest are being promoted, who is gaining out of this scandal, and who is losing? Is this all for the good of Juan de la Cruz?

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jjc1384

June 17th, 2005 at 10:44 pm

jun2001, yeah maby FPJ also cheated in Last year’s presidential polls but the point now is who was caught cheating…why not give Noli a chance to be GMA successor? Didn’t we give gloria a chance before? Was she worthy of her position as leader? The scandals of Arroyo is of bigger magnitude as compared to the issues of President Estrada.. Maybe Noli has lesser political exposure compared to Arroyo, but who knows? He might really be our savior…. Gloria has a lot of exposure in politics considering that her father was also a former president but she ended up as a failure and she was a national disaster… A lot of people are laughing at her yet she still acts as a respectable leader..considering the famous ringtone “Hello garci”, people really lost their respect to the leadership of Arroyo and she should step down now with dignity or step down without one….

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YDRG_8691

June 17th, 2005 at 10:46 pm

Hello to everyone. Thank you PCIJ for this site. This is very new to me but I truly enjoy the humor and the food for thought which appear here. I am saddened by what is going on in our country.Sometimes it makes me think… I hope that the other countries arent saying that WE deserve a government like this. Our history is very short but it seems that our people never learn from the lessons of the past. I refuse to be called an INDIO ( do we still remember this “nickname” given to us from long ago and what this name connotes? ) forever. I will not get old accepting that we Filipinos, should ” be kept ignorant and illiterate”. No, no…I dont think Filipinos should stay glued to this. We are good workers, we are diligent students, we are honest community members. We should not allow dishonesty, graft, corruption, false leadership to continuously destroy this Land, for it has been gifted with numerous promises to greatness. We can not be puppets again, we should not remain as avid onlookers and screaming “uzi’s” (usisero and usisera). We must educate ourselves and find involvement on how we can all rise from these rubbles and make a better future for our children and grandchildren. We must seek a leader who is righteous and God-fearing (and I mean the real GOD please…at hindi yung ginagamit lang ang pangalan ng Diyos to look saintly).
I am sure I am not the only one who feels disappointed and disheartened. But I am not losing hope. One day soon, I hope that a good and capable leader will soon rise to lead us all to a better tomorrow. The exodus of good professionals is rising by thousands. Nawawala na ang mga nurses, teachers, doctors at engineers natin dito. I cant blame them. It is extremely difficult to see the light when we are hooded with leaders in dark cloaks and governing us with continuous threat and false leadership. Kawawa naman ang bansa natin. Let us pray that God will lead the way for the sake of our country. Salamat po!

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juanbagwis

June 17th, 2005 at 10:54 pm

Unpopular candidates like GMA needs to cheat heavily to win elections and it has to be done systematically like conditioning the minds of people to the SWS surveys conducted before the elections ( corrupting the surveyors in the lower level) while on the other hand the rotweillers kept on attacking the nationality of the fallen “would be” President even fabricating documents.
They are calling it Karma. the original destabilisers. are now being destabilised. The country is going to the dogs because we have unrighteous leaders.

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juju

June 18th, 2005 at 4:37 am

Palitan na si GMA…………..

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Abe N. Margallo

June 18th, 2005 at 9:48 am

“An impeachable offense,” according to former US President Gerald Ford, “is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history.” Thus, former President Clinton was impeached for “lying under oath,” a misconduct the US Congress has determined to have risen to the level of an impeachable offense regardless that, if so proven, it had any bearing at all to Clinton’s ability to perform his office.

“Electoral fraud” is doubtless an impeachable offense within the constitutional definition of either “culpable violation of the constitution,” “other high crimes,” or “betrayal of public trust.”

Now, if the voice in the tapes is ascertained by credible experts to be that of GMA, then she is liable to be impeached assuming that the moral and political will of the required number of votes of the House (at least one-third of all its members) supports the impeachment. By the way, when the House impeaches a public official, it only means that it has reached a prosecutorial decision to charge that official; hence, in the instant case, the issue of admissibility of the tapes by virtue of the Anti-Wiretapping Law does not enter yet at the House stage of the proceedings.

The inadmissibility of tape may only be raised as a technical objection at the impeachment trial before the Senate AND only after GMA and “Garci” admit that the voices in the tapes are theirs and that the wiretapping was without their consent. Nonetheless, it does not mean that should the Senate rule against the admissibility of the tapes, the impeachment trial on the charge of “electoral fraud” would then be over. On the contrary, the trial should proceed which may result in conviction if there are other admissible and credible evidence than the excluded tapes, e.g. those “doctored” election returns the resolution of which has been voted down during the canvass or possibly buried six feet under as a result of the dismissal by the Supreme Court of FPJ’s election protest. (PCIJ has some digging to do here now!).

Some other points for the impeachment prosecutors to develop:

1. Communication between the President and a COMELEC commissioner on election matters are invested with public interest and therefore not covered by the exclusionary rule under the Anti-Wiretapping Law.

2. “Garci”(if he is also to be charged) may not invoke the rule on admissibility because he denies the voice of the other party in the communication.

3. The wiretap is considered “authorized” (if done by Isafp), Isafp being presumed to be in the conduct of its official function.

4. PGMA may not object to the admissibility of the tapes since Isafp is under her command responsibility.

5. Impeachment strictly speaking is not a “legislative” but more akin to a “constituent” function and therefore not covered by the Law.

6. Instead of presenting the tapes, call Bunye as witness and let him explain why as GMA’s spokesperson he admitted that the voice in the tapes is 98% that of GMA. Is GMA bound by that admission?

Anyway, impeachment as Filipinos should know by now is both a legal and a political process. It is a legal process because it is one of the checks and balances mechanisms prescribed in the Constitution. It is political because it is basically an un-election process.

Remember too that while impeachment is a “numbers game” that may be played rather on partisan lines, it is also a public perception trial wherein the Ultimate Jurors are watching on the sidelines to judge the judgment of the Senate Jurors.

Here’s what I’ve “blogged” and predicted (now memorialized in BUILD or PERISH!) when it was Erap’s turn to face impeachment:

It is likely then the Narvasa team will try to reduce the impeachment contest to a court trial where its expertise is well known. On the other hand, the prosecution, as a countervailing move, must be able to steer the process to accord it with the aura of an election challenge even within the confines of the impeachment proceedings. This is so because what will transpire in the hall of the Philippine Senate will be broadcast live to the nation as if it were the trial of the century. Merely showing, for example, that the President is guilty of “graft and corruption” as defined by statute may not be sufficient. After all the public perception is that none of his jurors or prosecutors is as clean as a saint. For the impeachment proceeding to succeed, or, at least, to serve as a catalyst for the civil society to react accordingly in the event of a decision on a purely partisan lines, the prosecution must be able to show that the impeachable conduct of President Estrada is such as to make him simply “unviable” to continue serving as the leader of the nation and that his continuance in office poses a clear and present threat to the Republic.

Now, based on the sheer power play of numbers, Senator Miriam Defensor-Santiago’s open prediction of acquittal for President Estrada, while callous and small-minded, smacks of candidness. It is callous because it betrays her brazen insensibilities to the emotions the nation has invested in the constitutional process it has opted to pursue for now. It is small-minded because, except to unduly heighten the national discord, it doesn’t serve any practical purpose to any party or anyone including herself.

But why would one still claim that Sen. Santiago is nonetheless candid or, perhaps, even more honest than Sen. Francisco Tatad (that good-looking Marcos altar boy who read the martial law proclamation while millions of Filipinos watched him in awe in their living rooms) who pretends that justice could be dispensed with by the Senate with the supposed impartiality of an apolitical jury? One answer could be that Sen. Santiago might have already settled with her conscience that as an impeachment juror she would be unable to exercise that same measure of scrupulousness and fairness she had been known to possess as once an honorable trial judge. The smarter side of Sen. Santiago knows quite well an impeachment trial is a political process that is couched in legal formalities. Therefore, politics not justice would be her guide in this political challenge to unseat her man from the presidency. Can Sen. Santiago, as an impeachment juror, make a decision based on purely political consideration? The proposition could be advanced that Sen. Santiago may not be deprived of this prerogative. But would she have the “right” to acquit the president, as she is perceived by many she would? That is the burden the House prosecutors must answer and pass.

President Estrada’s legal defense team led by Narvasa will attempt to take the legalistic route that by the test of “proof beyond reasonable doubt” (the other tests which are rather less exacting are “preponderance of evidence” and “clear and convincing proof”), the prosecution will have failed to prove its case such that juror like Sen. Santiago, by such a test, will have the “right” (i.e., “moral certainty”) to remain partial with her bet. What has been suggested earlier in this forum is that the House prosecution must not fall into the trap of confronting only the defense within such a legalistic frame, but must also address the ultimate issue that should the individual senator-juror fail to do the “right” (i.e., the “politically correct”) thing, then he or she would face the final arbiter, the people, to whom they are ultimately accountable. The political dimension of this accountability, it must be articulated, would be in the form of making the senators answerable to the electorate in the next election or the people taking the potentially dangerous and uncertain extra-constitutional means because their representatives—in failing to unseat the president before their (the people’s) turn to be jurors themselves comes—have failed the system itself.

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swerty

June 18th, 2005 at 12:33 pm

My take on this:

PGMA is in a lose-lose situation. Even if she pass through these allegations (highly doubted), no one will ever believe in any words she says. As long as she is our president, people will absolutely lose faith in the integrity and honesty of the agencies of the government including the AFP. She still have 5 years left to serve, so I wish that she will be hunt by her conscience, if she has it.

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prof.deepthinker

June 18th, 2005 at 2:07 pm

THE SOUND OF SILENCE SHOCKS THE CORNERPLACES OF MALACANANG PALACE… Sadly, the President shut her mouth instead of explaining the issue. It means, the truth is always the truth. DOJ secretary is like a bobito in Philippine laws. Sa lhat ng lawyers, yan ang pinakabobo kc d marunong mginterpret ng batas. C Wycoco, isa pang tuta ni GMA. Laguardia of MTRCB is also a horrible thing. Magresign na kau, ANG KAKAPAL NG MGA PAGMUMUKHA NINYO…

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carmel

June 18th, 2005 at 2:10 pm

sabi ni raul gonzalez, wag na daw pakinggan ng house yung tape kasi violation ng anti-wiretapping law. pero, ok lang daw kung memoryahin ng mga congressman yung transcript at i-recite. kasi, yun daw galing sa bibig nila so protektado sila ng freedom of speech. sinabi niya to (napanood ko sa tv patrol).

ang akin lang, saan ba nag-aral ng law ang mokong na yan? at naging justice secretary pa sa lagay na yan. utak hito.

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jjc1384

June 18th, 2005 at 2:18 pm

Hehehehe, baka utak ostrich…kung mag tago e ulo lang ang tinatago..hahahaha for short, super bobo!

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carmel

June 18th, 2005 at 2:22 pm

actually baka nga mas matalino pa ang hito sa mokong na yon. sorry sa mga hito….

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Mang_Romy

June 18th, 2005 at 5:34 pm

Totoo ba ang balita na diumano kaya pupunta si Gloria sa HK is to record another version of the tape this time with Bong Ruado? Any posters who heard of this?

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Rocket

June 19th, 2005 at 12:42 am

I recently downloaded the 160MB mp3 file on a dialup connection. It took me a total of about 9 hours. It was brutally long but I really wanted to know what it contained.

Grabe!! The recording confirmed my long-held belief that GMA really cheated on FPJ. Totoo pala talaga. Nanalo pala talaga yung binoto ko. I was cheated. Everyone was cheated. Then I remember the pre-election surveys, the failed poll computerization, the wanton spending of govt funds, the forged birth/marriage certificates produced by National Archives Director Ricardo Manapat, the railroaded GMA proclamation. Talagang gahaman sa kapangyarihan itong si GMA. Mandurugas!

Well, since cheats cannot be trusted, can we still trust GMA to govern? Dinugas na tayo noong nakaraan na eleksyon, malamang nandudugas pa rin ngayon at totoo nga! No less than her son was reported to have received jueteng money considering she took over Erap because of the jueteng issue. What nerve! Kapal muks talaga.

Madame GMA, iwasan na natin ang gulo. Let’s prevent another coup or another Siege of Malacañang from taking place. Madame GMA, bago mabaon sa hukay ang bansang Pilipinas, mag-resign ka na.

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brulyo

June 19th, 2005 at 11:46 am

GMA cheated in the election period. Kaso namatay na si FPJ. Just imagine kung anong gulo na ngayon ng bansa natin pag buhay pa si FPJ? Di po ba may purpose or destiny ang lahat ng events na ito? Asan na si Raul Roco? May sakit at kumampi na kay GMA bilang Consultant. Si Brother Eddie Villanueva? Nagtatago dahil may warrant of arrest for estafa galing sa kamag anak ni Mike Arroyo na mga Tuazon. Si Panfilo Lacson (www.888.ph)ang natitira among the aggrieved or interested parties sa last Presidential election. May legal basis ba for him to file a complaint?

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boybastos

June 19th, 2005 at 12:26 pm

I am putting the 3 hour tape for download at limewire just search for CompleteTape_set01.rar
CompleteTape_set02.rar
CompleteTape_set03.rar
CompleteTape_set04.rar

for those who have ears let them hear!!!

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Naz

June 19th, 2005 at 9:31 pm

Hello! Greetings! Uhm, if it would be ok. I would like to ask a few questions about the recordings and etc. Just right now, very confused cause everything is coming out left and right and i lost track suddenly. And if it would be ok with someone here if i could ask some questions? Thankyou.

Uhm.. first
1.) Arent wiretapped conversations inadmisable to the court? Just IF ever you know..

2.) I have distributed some copies and I do have some.. Am i subject to arrest? And to the people i distributed the tapes to. Are they in trouble? (Just so scared, because i do not want to get my friends and family in trouble. Just concerned.)

3.) Will there be any action taken? Or will it be like this for a long time? Or will it be forgotten? (In your opinion) cause my dad said alot of jobs and etc got hold up because of this.

4.) Incase, just incase! Iam taken to custody, or iam confronted by law enforcers. What should I say? What is the right things to say? (I have read the law, the part of the constitution, the freedom of speech act but still, at my age they might not take so easy at me because iam only a teenager. So just wanted to also ask professional advice and the sort. Ofcourse my parents and older people are also there. But since Iam here, i think I would benefit alot from here. That kind of thing.)

I hope i dint cause trouble or ask any bad questions. Just very concerned. Thankyou so very much! Any answer will be very appreciated! Thankyou!
Godbless all! :)

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Naz

June 19th, 2005 at 9:56 pm

Please someone help. I need help. Thankyou very much! Godbless and takecare!

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Naz

June 19th, 2005 at 11:42 pm

Really dont mean to be a nag to the people and the people of PCIJ but any answers would be greatly appreciated. Thankyou so so much. Sorry again for the disturbances.

Godbless and takecare!

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apollo

June 19th, 2005 at 11:56 pm

:p naz… read on….

wiretapped conversations are inadmissible as evidence between two litigating parties in court. becaused said taped conversation acts in violation of either parties right to privacy (mr.tanada filed that law to that effect). but with regards to the midget and garci’s “alleged” communication and you being in either – possesion, broadcast, listening, distribution or talking about it…(yep even talking about it)… you are in deep shit (like the rest of us) because the st*pid justice secreatry [he's now a p*ppet along with the judicial body] has been saying that they will persecute and litigate people doing the aforementioned things above…

anyway, lets just hope that the justicesec wakes up and is not that serious about litigating people [maybe he'll sue every one of us - imagine the heading of the case People of the RP vs People of the RP]….

anyway, in points of defense
1.) no one has admitted to being the parties in this taped communications and thus no one has commented that they are indeed illegally procured. hence, it can not be considered (yet) as illegal wiretapped communiques. (libre ka na for possesion until gma admits to it)

2.) because they haven’t been declared illegally procured and hence not yet under the awt [anti-wiretapping] law you can fucking distribute them to your damned hearts content until someone admits to and effectively bans the distribution [padalhan mo lahat ng kaibigan mo ng copies and lahat din ng taong nami-meet mo - para lahat tayo masaya sa jail later on - lol]…..

3.) re: broadcasting & talking about it… hell yeah! you can also do that… we still have FREEDOM OF SPEECH the last time i check although as i said above the justicesec & the NTC is trying to suppress it with suggestions and threats….

if they ever hold you in jail, that would be illegal detention they dont have any charges that can stick on you…. tawagan mo human rights advocates to make abiso if ever they hold you in jail & make sure you have their number….

tangina feeling ko tuloy its like pre-edsa 1 all over again…

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Abe N. Margallo

June 20th, 2005 at 5:26 am

There is a growing perception in the Philippines (in fact even shared by many members of Congress, including Senate President Drillon himself by his recent public pronouncement as regards the proposed congressional investigation of the wiretapping controversy) that Congress can conduct investigations only “in aid of legislation.” This to me is very unfortunate because it would seem to show that our lawmakers appear to be not fully aware of the true scope of their functions and responsibilities as the people’s representatives in a republican form of government. The June 20, 2005 editorial of Philippine Inquirer also reflects this perception in a general sense. I have a couple of occasions to blog on this issue before and put it together into an essay (likewise featured in BUILD or PERISH!) which I want to share with you through this thread.

Please note that the “privacy” concern is also discussed in the essay, something that is likely to be raised in the event GMA admits that one of the voices in the wiretapped conversation is hers.

‘. . . in aid of the nation’

by Abe N. Margallo

The exchange surrounding the “Jose Pidal” controversy about the alleged “money laundering” activity of Mike Arroyo, the husband of President Gloria-Macapagal Arroyo (GMA)—it was in turn spawned by a privileged speech that Senator Panfilo Lacson delivered in the Philippine Senate in the midsummer of 2003—has pushed the envelope containing the conflicting constitutional claim of congressional power of inquiry “in aid of legislation,” on the one hand, and of an individual’s right to resist it, on the other. And while dilettante political wranglers have not been quick enough to connect the dots, a simultaneous probe by the Committee of Public Information in the Lower House of a remark made by a TV morning show host Korina Sanchez has been expected to stretch the scope of the debate even further. But whereas journalists, complaining that the House investigation abridges free speech, have come to the succor of Korina, no counterpart grouping has expressed similar support or sympathy for the assertion of Ignatius “Iggy” Arroyo (the presidential brother-in-law, a.k.a. “Jose Pidal”) of his right to privacy. Not even after Senator Aquilino Pimentel has declared that the right is “nonexistent.” One really wonders whether this position taken by Pimentel, a human rights advocate during the Marcos dictatorship, is a principled and informed one—or something whipped up only in the heat of an exchange.

If thoughtfully reflected on, we should find without question that the investigatory power of Congress is as broad as its power of policymaking itself. On the other hand, the duty of all citizens to cooperate with the function of Congress to obtain information about any matter that may be the subject of potential legislation or of proper legislative purpose is equally unquestionable.

At the time when Senator Lacson was the one at the receiving end of a congressional investigation, I wrote a piece on the matter to argue in favor of the investigatory power of Congress versus the right of Lacson to resist it on due process ground:

ANM: One of the main objections to the conduct of the congressional hearings about the possible involvement in what could potentially be some polity-shattering high crimes (which include drug trafficking, kidnapping, political assassination, murder, and money laundering) of newly elected senator Panfilo Lacson, and other personalities several of them are high ranking officeholders, was the supposed violation of the due process requirement. The other concern was that the hearings were taking time away from the Legislature’s task of lawmaking.

My observation about the due process issue being raised is that it is more or less based on the procedural aspect of the requirement. By Daniel Webster’s definition, “procedural” due process is “a law which hears before it condemns, which proceeds upon inquiry, and renders judgment only after trial.” It also requires that, by a widely acceptable standard, the judge should be indifferent and upright.

I believe invoking the application of procedural due process requirement at this stage of the (Lacson) inquiry is premature. As it is, the investigation is being conducted by the appropriate congressional committees not with a view to depriving those involved of their life, liberty and property but only “in aid of legislation.”

The more relevant issue to consider therefore is whether the Senate committees conducting the inquiry are pursuing the matter “in aid of legislation” within the context of the Constitution (Article VI, Section 21 thereof) or for other purposes that infringe upon the fundamental concept of fairness or “substantive” due process.

Substantive (as opposed to procedural) due process—straining what I, as student, have learned from then Justice, and later Chief Justice, Fernando—is not a narrow or pedantic concept. As a restraint on official action, it is more or less rooted on societal values rather than technicalities. While it is also a check on both the means used as well as the ends sought to be accomplished, it does not however bar fresh approaches to solve problems menacing the very foundation of society. If both the ends and the means do not “outrun the bounds of reason,” to quote exactly Fernando’s favorite phrase, as the community understands them, the requirement of substantive due process is met.

It is noteworthy that Justice Fernando’s framework of substantive due process is in terms of individual rights’ protection. That is to be expected, Justice Fernando being first of all a civil libertarian. It should therefore be distinguished from the inaugural logic of the development of substantive due process in the United States whereby the unelected US Supreme Court has infused laissez-faire arguments to protect economic rights of big business and use judicial veto of social and economic legislations enacted by the people’s representatives—however skewed the representations might be.

Is it unreasonable or oppressive on the part of the Senate committees to conduct the inquiry on Lacson under the claim of “in aid of legislation”?

The scope of policymaking by Congress, the most representative of the three branches of the government, is exceedingly immense. National security and defense, economic development, environmental protection, health, education, foreign relations, world trade, peace and order, social justice, terrorism, insurgency, public morals and ethics, social welfare, poverty alleviation, graft and corruption, and many others.

In the name of legislation, Congress can also examine power and resource distribution such as the proper role of civil society and progressive groups, and the clout of well-entrenched factions in governance or, under pressure of the loudest, go as far as to strike at the core of the system and the ideological assumptions upon which it is based.

In sum, the purpose of legislative power or policymaking is the preservation of the commonwealth itself and of every person in it, which is the first and fundamental natural law. The entire legislative process thus provides an avenue where the conflicts of public life or of society itself are debated and deliberated in public view even without making laws . . ..

There is no question that as an express grant of constitutional power, legislative inquiries “in aid of legislation” are subject to the requirement of due process. However, legislation per se could also be an exercise of the “power of doing public good without a rule” except, possibly, the law of preservation of the society. In the latter instance, it is in the nature of the Lockean prerogative 1 “in aid of the nation.”

In a nation badgered incessantly to founder on the rocks by widespread graft and corruption, military mutiny, and subversion, procedural due process—which includes the full opportunity to avail of the technical rules of procedures such as to exercise the right to bail, have access to competent counsels, or basically not to be condemned without proper hearing—could increasingly become a luxury. As such, the right is available only to those who could afford it. If a society caves in totally, individual liberty could be rendered meaningless as it becomes exposed to the invasion of others in a natural state where “man is equal to the greatest, and subject to nobody.”

As the Senate investigations of Senator Lacson unfolded, there were telltale signs we could have trifled with this dreadful state of societal enfeeblement. Fortunately, no one has come forward to claim that the extent of the drug menace in the country as thus far unveiled was nothing but a product of an “overactive imagination.” While much remains to be desired in terms of pinning down individual culpability, the magnitude of the problem of narco-politics in the Philippines could downgrade the conflict in the South, the presidential plunder trial, or the country’s economic woes, to play second fiddle to such a monstrosity as has been creeping insidiously into the national physique and psyche.

Now, the US Constitution—from which were drawn or copied many of the provisions of the colonial Constitution of the Philippines of 1935, the Marcos Constitution of 1973, and the People Power Constitution of 1987—does not expressly grant investigatory power to the US Congress. Judicial decisions have merely implied the power of inquiry as an incident to lawmaking. The power not being expressly granted, there are also no express limitations to it in the US Constitution. One of the court-fashioned limitations to the power that may be relevant to the public clamor now in the Philippines against senatorial “grandstanding” in the current congressional investigations is the one pronounced in Watkins v. US (1957) where it was held by the US Supreme Court that “Investigations conducted solely for personal aggrandizement of the investigators or to ‘punish’ those investigated are indefensible.” The punishment, the Court noted, could be in the nature of “public stigma, scorn or obloquy.”

By contrast, the present Philippine Constitution (Article VI, Section 22 thereof) expressly limits the power of Congress or its committees to conduct inquiry by mandating that the “rights of the person appearing in or affected by such inquiries shall be respected.” There is no doubt that foremost of these “rights” are the same rights safeguarded by the “due process” clause under the Bill of Rights—the right to “life, liberty and property” and other more specific rights such as the right of free speech that Korina Sanchez is relying on to resist the House’ probe about her questioned remark.
Going back to certain constitutional developments in the US, there are a number of US Supreme Court decisions that have placed a premium upon certain protected rights such as the right to free speech, the right of association, and the right against self-incrimination as against the investigatory power of Congress. Hence, as a form of governmental interference in the liberty of individuals, congressional power while broad and encompassing is not absolute.

The politics of constitutional interpretation (and according to Justice Felix Frankfurter constitutional interpretation “is not at all a science, but applied politics”) involving congressional power has allowed the further development of implied and cognate powers of congress—almost akin to the so-called “penumbral idea” of component rights flowing from certain rights of the individual expressly enumerated by the Constitution—such as the aforementioned power to investigate or inquire (now expressly recognized in the Philippines Constitution) or the power to inform flowing from such power of inquiry. “(T)he State has the power,” said the US Supreme Court in Gibson v. Florida Legislative Investigation Committee (1963), “adequately to inform itself—through legislative investigation, if it so desires—in order to act and protect its vital interest . . ..”

Indeed, the “informing” function of Congress has manifold salutary purposes (if only its context is properly communicated by the media), e.g., to inform itself in order to effectively carry out a legislative task, or pursuant to the speech and debate clause (Article VI, Section 11 of the Philippine Constitution) for the legislators, as in the Lacson exposé of the Jose Pidal accounts, to inform and educate their constituents about matters supposedly affecting the affairs of government; in the process, the whole exercise is then expected to allow voters to learn firsthand how effectively and competently their representatives have been performing their jobs. If differentiated from the technical aspect of enacting laws, the informing function of Congress has assumed greater significance as a result of the rather “popular” character of the 1987 Constitution.

As a fundamental drift from a purely “representative” government, the 1987 Constitution, a product of People Power uprising, under the very first section of the article on Legislative Department (Article VI, Section I in relation to Section 32 thereof) has reserved to the principal, the sovereign Filipino people, a provision for initiative and referendum as an express legislative power-sharing mechanism co-existent with that so delegated by the same sovereign to the agency of the Legislative Department. This populist sentiment further finds expressions in the Constitution (Article XIII, Sections 15 and 16 as well as Article II, Section 23 thereof) recognizing the national role of people’s organizations, NGOs and community-based organizations and facilitating “the establishment of adequate consultation mechanisms.”

Needless to state, the provision for initiative and referendum would be better served by an “informed” citizenry, thereby making the informing function of Congress flowing from its investigatory power “in aid of legislation” to be of even broader and greater significance than the function of pure lawmaking itself.

WHEREAS the cognate powers of congress are the products of the politics of constitutional construction (interpretation), the penumbral right to privacy of the individual is supposed to precede the Constitution, the Bill of Rights or, perhaps, politics itself. Its “nonexistence” in the express language of the fundamental law in fact proves that it underlies the Constitution because the right is “rooted in the tradition and conscience of (the) people” (Concurring opinion of Justice Goldberg in Griswold v. Connecticut [1965]). It is to be so because the enumeration of specific rights in the Bill of Rights does not deny the existence of certain other rights as the right to be let alone that is too essential to the integrity of the individual and too fundamental in the people’s conscience to require express recognition in the letter of the Constitution. The significance of this right is now deeply sublimated in the Filipino soul as a result of their painful and cruel experience under the Friar regime, the American conquest, the Japanese occupation, and the Marcos dictatorship.
The right to be let alone gives life and substance to all the other specific rights the Constitution enumerates. By acknowledging its existence, a “zone of privacy,” paraphrasing the majority opinion in Griswold, not otherwise spelled out in the express language is deemed to radiate from it as a matter of common sense. Thus, the “penumbras, formed by emanations,” as the Court put it. For example, the right to believe presupposes the right not to believe, or the right to speak includes the right to be silent or not to be compelled to speak. While the realm of the first right is absolute, the latter right of the individual as a member is however subject to regulation by the State so as to protect the equal rights of others or to preserve the very existence of the State itself. In Morfe vs. Mutuc (1968), the Philippine Supreme Court speaking through then Justice Fernando, apparently went beyond Griswold when it said the right to privacy is constitutionally recognized “independently of its identification with liberty.” If only to underscore it anew, in between individual liberty and governmental regulation (or interference) lies the requirement of due process, which demands fair play or the absence of arbitrariness from governmental power or its exercise

Whether Iggy Arroyo is being arbitrarily compelled to break his silence despite his plea for the right to privacy or Korina Sanchez unfairly treated about her remark notwithstanding her assertion of the right to free speech could ultimately be resolved by the Supreme Court in the exercise of judicial review. Interestingly, judicial review (the employment of which by the Philippine Supreme Court especially vis-à-vis People Power was examined more closely ikn the book) is just another power that is “nonexistent” in the express language of the fundamental law but which had been deemed to be there by an earlier exercise of courtroom politics in the Unites States relying upon the supposed logic of the operation of a tripartite government.

With all the “bickering,” the “grandstanding,” or “the poisoning of the air,” the undeclared winner in the “circus” atmosphere, I suppose, is People Power democracy because the vitality of the political process has allowed the citizenry to exercise its liberty to participate (whether as an active player or passive onlooker)—which could just be another penumbral right rooted in the very essence of true and genuine republicanism—through the “telenovela” of livingroom politics or the public forum, now more commonplace in the Philippines than ever, of text messaging performing in some way the task of public cross-examination. This assessment (which we will attempt to develop further) should be seen in contrast to the perception of one notable political analyst and newspaper columnist, Alex Magno, to the effect that the “epidemic” attendant to the Jose Pidal controversy is “(harming) all our institutions.”

On the other hand and quite unfortunately, Joker Arroyo—one of the few remaining quixotic senators (and yet was seemingly exasperated by the turn of these events)—has expressed fears about the supposed perception of the people (and perception could be managed as will be argued later) that the Senate is “neglecting the law-making part of our job.”

I believe Congress is a public space for exchange, a debating society first and foremost. And laws are just the end products of the majority views.

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1 In Concerning Civil Government, Second Essay, John Locke defined prerogative as the “power to act according to discretion for the public good, without the prescription of the law and sometimes even against it.”

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brulyo

June 20th, 2005 at 5:50 am

Paano mag prosper ang Jose Pidal investigation eh si Ignacio Ignacito Iggy Arroyo aka Jose PIDAL JR used to be a staff member of then Executive Secretary Joker Arroyo after Iggy Arroyo sold his Y101 share and resigned as one of its directors in 1986. Ubusin ang mga corrupt daw sabi ni Joker. Joke lang pala yun. Check http://www.josepidal.isonfire.com

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Naz

June 20th, 2005 at 6:26 am

Ok, thankyou very much apollo! ^_^ Not that I dint read about it or prepare myself. Just that, everything is coming out left and right. Media and all. So i got so confused and stuff. Thanks again apollo! :) Uhm any another answers would muchly be appreciated! Thankyou very much! :) Godbless and takecare!

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apollo

June 22nd, 2005 at 4:49 am

oy, to the people comparing nixon to the evil midget… shit please don’t….

at least nixon has the chutzpah to resign after he realize that the scandal that shook his government had left him without moral power to govern the usa… afterwards he became a respected statesman for his act and other contributions…

The evil midget doesn’t have anything akin to nixon…. all she did was put us in a constitutional crisis by making the executive branch her very own image – corrupt, cheat & liars …. upps, sorry, of course she will always have her contributions [from jueteng]….. lol

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likawa

June 22nd, 2005 at 5:20 am

We are all living in fantasy.
Who really wants GMA to be ousted or be forced to resign.There are too many I think especially after her alleged voice was heard in the garci tapes. But those many are the same people who were outraged after the Jose Pical expose, after she reneged on her vow not to run again, after the alleged execessive spending duirng election campaign and after the railoroading of her proclamation.
Those are enough issues to make them repulsive of the regime and throw all thier might to unseat her.
But where are the people? In silence or waiting for others to satisfy their wish.
We deserved the fate that we are in now because we, as a people, are not that really ready to sacrifice one’s limb to oust a very unpopular president.
We waited for 400 years to kick out the Spanish conquistadores.14 years to realize that dicatarship is not good for us. Perhaps we can also wait up to 2010 for another election. and be fooled again by those politicians.
We are doomed. After accepting this tape scandal as just like any other.

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tobebs

June 22nd, 2005 at 8:33 am

I watched yesterdays hearings at congress and I agreee and disagree with cong. Migs Zubiri on his insistence that the hearings should not be held in the session hall.

AGREE: because some congressmen are just being mayabang infront of their kababayans invoking all parliamentary procedures which ordinary citizens watching them dont comprehend.

DISAGREE: because it is our right to listen to the proceedings kaya nga may gallery ang session hall. Bakit nahihiya ba silang magsinungaling sa harap ng kanilang mga kababayan

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lawspeak_007

June 22nd, 2005 at 8:42 am

Naz, this may be of help to you :

1.) Arent wiretapped conversations inadmisable to the court?

Answer :

Yes as a general rule ( See Art.III,Section 3 of the 1988 Constititution)
But not until the Supreme Court will rule otherwise in the near future.

For purposes of the “Gloriagate”, Lawyers may differ on legal theories,depending on what fence they are in, however, I’m more inclined to subscribe on Atty.Disini’s theory ( see top post)

To further aid of your legal research and understanding, You may read Cruz’s Political and Constitutional Law as well as Reyes’ Criminal Law. Every law library carries these aforementioned books. But if you have a dime to spend, you could check the Central Lawbook or NBS nearest you.

2.) I have distributed some copies and I do have some.. Am i subject to arrest? And to the people i distributed the tapes to. Are they in trouble?

Answer :

Please read top post, Atty. Dissini clearly explained the nuances of the applicable law and its effects. Kindly read his blog too.

But before your “actual” need arises, try to scout for any friendly lawyer in your neighborhood and enlist their services on pro bono basis. In their absence,you may also try your school’s College of Law–Office of Legal Aid to bail you out of trouble.If these is not yet available, try the NGO’s who are subscribing to your political beliefs and causes.

3.) Will there be any action taken? Or will it be like this for a long time? Or will it be forgotten? (In your opinion) cause my dad said alot of jobs and etc got hold up because of this.

Answer :

Kindly clarify these queries for better understanding of anyone who like to comment. But let me try if my readings on your queries is correct : I presumed you want to read an Opinion on the short and long term effects of the Gloriagate. I advise you to read the opinion page of all the major newspaper. Try also to research on the background of the columnists, they too have their own biaises.

4.) Incase, just incase! Iam taken to custody, or iam confronted by law enforcers. What should I say? What is the right things to say? (I have read the law, the part of the constitution, the freedom of speech act but still, at my age they might not take so easy at me because iam only a teenager. So just wanted to also ask professional advice and the sort. Ofcourse my parents and older people are also there. But since Iam here, i think I would benefit alot from here. That kind of thing.)

Answer :

Even if you are a teenager, you are still assured of your basic rights.
Kindly refer to your Question No.2 for answers.

God bless!

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jonas

June 22nd, 2005 at 8:46 am

I disagree with Cong. Zubiri for insinuating that the hearing could turn out to a circus if they will hold it in the session hall. Firstly, there’s no reason for his concern because the House has an adequate and capable security personnel to deal with any development that might arise; and secondly, why be afraid of the people whose main purpose is only to be inform and be enlightened by the events that are unfolding in our midst?

But seriously, I would like to commend him for accurately predicting the ‘circus’ atmosphere of the hearing when some of the administration clowns outdid each other in the first two hours of the hearing by raising issues one after another for dilatory purposes.

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leatherneck

June 22nd, 2005 at 9:40 am

The good congressman said that the hearings should be moved to the smaller committee rooms because in the Session Hall, it could turn into a circus given the crowd that could be gathered by “both sides”. It insinuates that it is the people in the gallery that will make it a circus.

The fact is that no matter where the hearings are held, it will still eb a circus because it is not the crowd in the gallery that are the clowns. The congressmen on the floor are the ones who perform the antics and make fools of themselves.

Kahit na ilipat sa mas maliit na kuwarto, dahil nandun pa rin ang mga camera, kanya-kanyang pa-porma pa rin.

Better off na sa kung saan nagsimula, dun na tapusin. Baka ma-akusahan pa na may cover-up.

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tobebs

June 22nd, 2005 at 9:49 am

1000 % Agree that the congressmen on the floor are the clowns in this percieved circus particularly those in the administration

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tobebs

June 22nd, 2005 at 11:08 am

I was listening awhile ago to Cong. Migs Zubiri at ANC saying that he just wants to preserve the integrity of Congress as an institution and does not want it to turn into a circus. Remember congressmen come and go after their terms end but Congress will be there to remain as an institution. As long as there are clowns like Zubiri and his allies in the administration Congress will always turn to be a Circus.

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crd_web

June 22nd, 2005 at 11:18 am

it’s the third time that i’ve been reading this post, somewhat convinced me to distribute and upload the complete recording along with the transcript on my main site.

I uploaded all the files at http://www.philippine-islands.info/Wire_tapped.php

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Atty C

June 22nd, 2005 at 11:47 am

Congressman Zubiri and others (Mike defensor) were once known as the spice boys of Congress. But that was during the time of Erap. Now, they are reduced to lap dogs of GMA.

I admire Congressman Roilo Golez and the other chairmen of the committees like Congressman Gilbert Remulla. Despite being identified with the administration, they still proceed in the interest of the people’s right to know. I find Congressman Golez’ remarks about how former Presidents Carlos Garcia chose to leave malacanang than cheat, and of Diosdado Macapagal to do the same, as directed to GMA. It’s a shame that the honorable Diosdado Macapagal has a cheat for a daughter! History will honor those who really are deserving of the trust of the people. To all the lap dogs of GMA, mahiya kayo! Kung hindi naman, just donate your thick skins so that our soldiers can use them as body armor, similar to the kevlars, which our government cannot afford because of rampant corruption. With your thick skins, our soliders will be safe from bullets. I will bet that the thickest and most effective against any kind of sharpnel will be that of GMA’s, Bunye’s, Gonzales’ and Wycoco’s.

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Maria

June 22nd, 2005 at 1:10 pm

ATTY C, I remember Roilo Golez during the early 80′s in PI he used to be the postmaster general on that sort to the government. My dad wrote him a letter becasue there are many US pensionados in Urdaneta Pangasinan that there monthly US pensions was stolen by one of our postman. Since this pensionado’s widows can’t speak or write english, they will come by our home to ask my father to seek help from the government. My dad wrote Roilo Golez a letter. It didn’t take him long, he travel all the way from Manila and he had investigate the problem himself. The postman who stole most of the check was fired and the stealing of personal letters and pensions had eventually stop. This the the lasting impression he had left in me. If every politicians in the Philippines think of themselves as public servant to the filipinos, there integrity is always remembered. I noticed the root cause of poverty in the Philippines is corruption. The bucks stop where the President, the president’s men, the politicians, the government employees, militaries, govenrment agencies department bureaus dwell.
The lowly job such as farmers, fishermen, salesman and ladies, maids, construction workers, janitors, homemakers etc.. had no way of getting bribes like the one I mentioned on top. They are stuck to meager salary to get by. While those public servants who supposed to serve the filipino people are thieves.

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jammer

June 22nd, 2005 at 1:21 pm

too bad people. for another edsa to succeed, it needs (1) people, (2) media, (3) military.

disabled na ang (1) dahil to the benefit of gloria, cardinal sin died. sa tingin nyo ba papalampasin ni cardinal sin yan? kaya nga sa tuwang manalangin ni gloria eh, “take (cardinal) sin away from us” at ayun.. dedo si sin. (sin is a prime author of edsa 1 and 2)

(2) media… iniisa isa na kayo, by DOJ and NTC.

(3) military… he he he. nasa payola ng jueteng, droga, arms sale, black mail, at iba pa yang mga yan so what makes you think sasama yan. they enjoy a better life with gma. nasa posisyon sila eh. kaya lang naman sumama sa edsa2 yan dahil sa pera nila sa retirement, commission, etc… (ramos… baka maimbistigahan pa ang amari, fort boni at ang mga pier na pinagawa niya sa south america… all of these are true.)

sayang lang, the tape was too late. dapat sinabay sa oakwood mutiny para may military component sila.

anyway, to the mutineers, tama kayo. its just that you gave up so soon. susuportahan kayo ng taong bayan, subukan niyo lang mag-aklas ngayn.

as for me… dapat ethics lang eh. pag kampanya.. pangako. dapat tuparin.

nagsisimba… (1)may asawa na, may anak pa sa iba… (kay vicky toh), dalawa pa. cguro naman alam nyo na ito.

(2) pasimba simba. diyos pa daw ang kaharap, cnungaling naman (ULOL!)

(3) di tumanggap ng jueteng money? (ULOL!)

(4) Nasaan na pala yung account daw ni erap na gnamit sa plunder case at yung account ni pidal… lost touch tayo lahat ano… kasi may terorrist attack… guess from whom?

(5) judge… justice system… you still trust them? buti nga nanjan ang mga human rights lawyers eh. eto ang tunay.

gma being president after edsa 2 is unconstitutional. she knows it.
gma winning the election last year is illegal. (nangdugas nga eh). she knows it.

and what the heck are these priests taking her inside their chapel. benepisyo rin malamang.

ethics lang talaga.

THE BEST MOVE?

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jammer

June 22nd, 2005 at 1:24 pm

swerte ni gma… sin died.

or was sin murdered para wala edsa 4?

what do you think? we already know gma is a cheat.

would she go that far?

if she says no, why would we believe her? she is a liar in the first case.

she cheats!

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jammer

June 22nd, 2005 at 1:24 pm

or cardinal sin died the same way fpj died.

sama ng loob sa gobyerno.

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almondreign22

June 22nd, 2005 at 1:47 pm

kung sakaling buhay pa si cardinal SIN di na sya dapat pang makialam sa pulitika dahil kung tutuusin di naman nagbabayad ng tax ang simbahan at saka there’s a separation of power of the state and church. Look, andun sya nung Edsa 2 di ba, what happened dun sa iniluklok nila wala rin, trapo din pala, simbahan silang naturingan pero kumilala sila sa huwad na presidente.

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jammer

June 22nd, 2005 at 1:53 pm

kaya pala hindi mahabol ng simbahan si gloria.

check this site. champion nila si gma. ha ha ha.

http://www.macapagal.com/gma/acc.html

binigyan pa nila ng reward.

kung ito ang class ng outstanding sa kanila…. eh di pareho na lang sila. ha ha ha. hindi susuporta si sin laban kay gma.

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ben_denr4b

June 22nd, 2005 at 1:56 pm

its about time the little girl from lubao speaks out and stop suppressing the truth,lets honk our horns to a deafening roar until we all drive GMA away from the palace she never deserve to be in the first place, may God be with us all..!

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jammer

June 22nd, 2005 at 2:05 pm

problema si noli papalit eh. pwede ba change officers?

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almondreign22

June 22nd, 2005 at 2:14 pm

No choice tayo kung si Noli ang papalit, puwera na lang kung mapapatunayan na nandaya din sya ibig sabihin di rin sya deserving na mamuno.

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jammer

June 22nd, 2005 at 2:29 pm

can anyone relay this sa congress para itanong:

bunye showed a cd/tape na recorded from palace saying “gary” instead of “garci”.

this is a case of fraud on their part. its a falsification of government record. as he said, “the palace has its records”.

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swerty

June 22nd, 2005 at 2:33 pm

snap election! i-shuffle ng COMELEC lahat ng officials. Dapat higpitan na at may civilian volunteers na magbabantay hangang matapos ang election, lalong lalo na sa lahat ng nabangit sa tape na mga probinsyang laganap ang “dagdag-bawas” pero wag naman sanang ipa-kidnap yung pamilya.

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dsaint

June 22nd, 2005 at 4:22 pm

Hey Jammer, Swerty, Almondreign22 and Friends,

There’s still hope for the Philippines. Kahit na kinuha na ng DIYOS sina FPJ, Teddy Benigno at Cardinal Sin ay mayroon pa ring mga deserving leaders ang Pilipinas na maaaring mamuno para sa pagbabago sa ating bansa.

May isang presidential candidate last 2004 na hindi nagconcede at nananatiling lumalaban para sa katotohanan at kapakanan ng mga Pilipino.

Si BRO. EDDIE VILLANUEVA, the best alternative to GMA.

Check out http://www.bangonpilipinas.org to see and join ang ating mga Kabangons.

As i’ve said,

THE ONLY THING NECESSARY FOR GOOD TO TRIUMPH
IS THAT GOOD MEN AND WOMEN DO WHAT IS NECESSARY.

BANGON, PILIPINAS, BANGON!!!

GOD BLESS THE PHILIPPINES!!!

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jammer

June 22nd, 2005 at 4:27 pm

actually… mas mataas ang votes ni lacson sa kanya if i remember right. yah maraming hopes…

pero all 1st world countries, bago naging 1st world killed almost half their population for a real regime change.

you think villanueva can do that? i bet lacson can. he he he

ninonominate ko ba si lacson o sinisiraan ko? he he he

may pag asa pa talaga ang pilipino. get out of the philippines… they say.

then again… mga 100 years to be optimistic. halos 20 years nakikialam si sin sa politics… it went worse…(as compared to marcos)

then agen… weather weather lang yan.

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dsaint

June 22nd, 2005 at 4:42 pm

Jammer,

Si Lacson ay nag-concede then kay Arroyo at nag-voice pa ng support kay GMA pagkatapos ng election. Di ko alam kung anong reason pero tinitira ni Lacson sina Arroyo noon pero biglang tumahimik.

Magkaiba naman si Sin at si BRO. EDDIE VILLANUEVA. We just need to give him a chance to prove himself and serve our country.

Kailangan lang ay wag tayong mawalan ng pag-asa at maniwala sa magagawa ng ating DIYOS at ng ating pagkakaisa.

Sabi nga ni Bro. EDDIE VILLANUEVA
“MANIWALA KA! BABANGON ANG PILIPINAS!!!”

Tulong-tulong tayo kapatid na Jammer.

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jammer

June 22nd, 2005 at 4:53 pm

i believe… we need to use villanuevas faith and dedication, lacsons methods and cunning, gils comedy and laughter, roco’s compassion, fpj’s fame and conviction to have a real life away from the lies and corruption of gma.

face it.even her supporters knw she is on the tape and the case of wire tapping is negligible as compared to the votes we filipinos cast during election that she stole.

boto na lang meron ang common na tao… pilipino… d na nga nya mabigyan ng trabaho, health benefits, retirement, education, pagkain… pati ba naman boto nila nanakawin pa?

grabe… ganyan ba ang sinuportahan ni cardinal sin na mailuklok sa edsa dos? kung pwede, para hindi masira ang pangalan ni cardinal sin.. pakialis yung edsa dos sa line up ng achievement nya dahil failure yung resulta ng ipinalit nung sinuportahan nya.

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jammer

June 22nd, 2005 at 4:54 pm

si bunye pala kailangan ikulong. sinungaling eh. does anyone agree?

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pleigh

June 22nd, 2005 at 7:35 pm

as to bunye spending time in prison?i agree….of being not consistent to his press releases….as to zubiri, don’t you read newspapers?tabloids?watch news?the speaker approves the usage of the plenary hall to accomodate the public…that’s what you can clearly call a “delaying tactics” as you from administration bloc always accuse the minority….to sec gonsalez, i have no doubt he can do this(defend the president)…very obvious with his participation in the presidential canvassing…yeah, where did you study your law(i will not enroll in that school)….to mr wycoco, be consistent, man….please do not make fool of yourself….to the leaders of the church, instead of being divided, make a single stand…this is now a moral issue, you have to do it now or you’ll regret this when you face the Almighty…isn’t it that because of moral issue, too, that the church stands against mr estrada and was forced to leave the malacañang?where are your morals now?

and since garcillano denied the accussation, is it now the right time to authenticate the said tape?i don’t know what the legalities but, is it possible now?

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dsaint

June 22nd, 2005 at 10:16 pm

I agree with you jammer… di lang sinungaling, pinapaikot pa ang mga Pilipino… ikulong si Bunye!

Kanino ba naman magmamana yan di sa boss nya na sinungaling din!

Hanggang ngayon ginagamit pa rin ang pangalan ng DIYOS sa kanyang kalokohan (check the news about the freed accountant, Mr. Tarongoy, in Iraq). Malalaman at malalasap mo din ang tamang panahon ng DIYOS, GMA. Wait ka lang…

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jammer

June 22nd, 2005 at 10:52 pm

dapat nga death penalty yang mga yan eh. kaya naghihirap mga (low class) pilipino… nauuwi sa krimen dahil sa kahirapan na sila ang promotor or dahilan. accessory to crime dapat yang mga yan.

isama na rin natin ang DOJsec. biased sa implementation ng batas. pag regular na tao ang nagdistribute… may kaso ng wire tapping. pag congresista o senador… iba na ruling. kalokohan ang batas sa pinas.

sa bagay. si davide man violator din eh. unconstitutional ang pagkakaupo ni gma nung una… siya pa ang nagswear in office.

dapat isama na rin yun.

eh yung mga jueteng? sa laganap ng nagpapa jueteng sa pinas… walang nahuli ni isa? governor pa yung isa dba?

ewan lang… cultural revolt ang kelangan…

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masha

June 22nd, 2005 at 11:31 pm

if and when (i hope) gloria resigns, the constitution states that noli as veep takes her place. i dont like noli but i’m all for respecting the constitution. we put it in place for, among others, succession of leadership, and to flout it would be thwart the will of the people. to implant a new person into the position of president without legal basis would not be credible. it would be the same as setting up a revolutionary govt or junta, and that would create instability. an administration headed by someone that our law does not contemplate would lack the credibility to govern and would be a denigration of democratic processes of which our constiution is a part.

now, i like bro eddie better than any other candidate in the last pres’l elections, but there is no legal way for him to take over.

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dsaint

June 22nd, 2005 at 11:35 pm

Dapat unahin ang namumuno sa gobyerno. Yung pinaka-ugat ng problema dito sa Pilipinas. Pag naparusahan si GMA, matatakot na ang ibang tao na gumawa ng pangungurakot sa gobyerno. Sa Korea, kinulong nila ang dati nilang presidente ng mapatunayan na nagkasala. Isinama nila sa karaniwang bilanggo. Ganon kaseryoso ang mga koreano sa pagpapatupad ng kanilang batas. Kaya tingnan nyo ang bansang ito, isa sa mga developed countries sa Asia.

Huwag ka pa ring mawalan ng pag-asa Jammer. May pag-asa pa rin tayo para sa pagbabago ng Pilipinas. BRO. EDDIE VILLANUEVA at mga Pilipinong may tunay na pag-ibig sa bayan! Sama na sa pagbabago!

Tanong ko lang kung bakit nag-declare today sina GMA ng “FULL ALERT” – the highest alert level sa buong Pilipinas ng dumating si BRO. EDDIE VILLANUEVA galing ng Hongkong at pakiusapan siya to make the “necessary decision” so that “history will be kinder to her.” Ganon na ba ang takot ni GMA kay BRO. EDDIE VILLANUEVA?

E mag-peprayer rally lang naman sina Bro. Eddie Villanueva to “appeal to heaven and for Divine intervention for the good of the nation” on July 1 at the Araneta Coliseum in Cubao, Quezon City.

Palagay ko ay magkaiba talaga ang lord ni GMA at LORD ni BRO. EDDIE VILLANUEVA.

Sama na kayo sa pagbabago! BANGON, PILIPINAS, BANGON!!!

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Naz

June 22nd, 2005 at 11:36 pm

Thankyou too mr. lawspeak_007! Thanks for the advice! I appreciate all your advices! ^_^ Thanks! But…
Unfortunately.. To my question of arrest and everything.. (by the way, thankyou again! ^_^) well.. i guess i have that challenge.. i dont really have much resources because.. 1.) Iam still in highschool, 2nd year highschool to be exact. 2.) Yes there are other branches of the school that have colleges (DLSU and its other branches, iam currently studying in zobel.) 3.) Well, to be honest. I read the whole thing above plus other things to support my belief. My belief is set in me. I pray alot on this. Iam not turning back. Iam even ready to face the authorities. (Yes.. iam serious.) The only thing I would not want is to bring my friends and family into this. I just dont want them to get in to trouble because of me. Because I gave them cd coppies. IAM ready to accept if it is for me. Okay, fine.. I admit.. Iam a destabilizer. But I do not want my friends/fam to get introuble. Well thats all. My beliefs are set. Not just doing it because people are doing it. But I belive there is possiblity of change. Change in a good way ofcourse. And that certain good change can turn around the country. People will be helped. Hoping of less poverty. (We must admit, this is a hard one to overcome) and all the other good factors. Well, im sure there is a way. I will leave this up to God. ^_^ Thanks again Mr/Ms. lawspeak. Godbless and takecare everyone!

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jammer

June 22nd, 2005 at 11:42 pm

guess again. kung minor ka, parents mo ang may sala.

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masha

June 22nd, 2005 at 11:43 pm

as to cong zubiri. really, what has he done for the country? i dont even find him moderately intelligent. well, he did use vina morales to propel him into the national consciousness. wais.

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dsaint

June 22nd, 2005 at 11:48 pm

Naz and Fellow PCIJ Bloggers,

Maging malinaw sana sa atin na HINDI TAYO ANG DESTABILIZERS ng ating bayang Pilipinas.

SINA GMA, Jose Pidal Arroyo, Garcillano at iba pang nangungurakot at nagpapahirap sa ating mga kababayang Pilipino, SILA ANG MGA DESTABILIZERS ng ating bayan!

I understand your fears and sacrifices kapatid na Naz. Ganoon din ako, di rin ako maintindihan ng misis ko kung bakit ako nagtatagal sa pag-iinternet although in-explain ko na sa kanya na para sa ating Inang Bayan ang lahat ng ito. Marerealize din niya later na para ito sa kanya, sa aming mga dalawang anak at sa ating mga kababayang Pilipino.

WHATEVER GOOD WE DO TODAY
WILL DETERMINE THE FUTURE GOOD OF OUR COUNTRY.

THE ONLY THING NECESSARY FOR GOOD TO TRIUMPH
IS THAT GOOD MEN AND WOMEN DO WHAT IS NECESSARY.

BANGON, PILIPINAS, BANGON!!!

GOD BLESS US ALL!!!

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masha

June 23rd, 2005 at 12:19 am

i agree, dsaint. it is in fact gma who is doing the destabilizing the country by continuing to stonewall any investigation or by explaining her role in the tapes. once she resigns, she would have effectively stopped the further destabilization of the country.

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tobebs

June 23rd, 2005 at 6:10 am

Kahapon sa harap ng milyon-milyong Pilipino ipinakita na naman ni Bunye ang pagkakatulad nya sa kanyang amo na sinungaling. Even simple questions that requires plain answer of yes or no ay di masagot di Bunye ng diretsahan. He tends to explain first before answering the question halatang may itinatago. For almost 8 hours walang ginawa si Bunye kundi magsinungaling.

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tobebs

June 23rd, 2005 at 6:20 am

Masha,

I agree with your observation re Zubiri, dapat mag-artista na lang siya para mabawasan naman ang mga clowns sa kongreso na sabi nya ay nagiging circus.

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jonas

June 23rd, 2005 at 6:49 am

I agree that we should follow the Constitution, if ever, and respect its provision regarding succession in the presidency. Dahil si Noli ang legally mandated to take the place when GMA steps down I think every Filipino should respect that process.

However, the problem, I think, is with Kabayang Noli himself. He has been very vocal in his unwavering support on GMA’s innocence since the start of the tape scandal giving an impression that either he did not listen to the tape or he is now the number one loyalist of GMA.

Dapat ma-realize ni Ka Noli na siya’s naluklok sa kanyang posisyon dahil sa kanyang imahen na siya ay makabayan (kaya nga Kabayan eh!) at hindi corrupt. Nahalal siya hindi lamang sa dahil siya ay malinis kundi dahil pinahahalagahan niya ang bansa kumpara kung sa anupaman. Kaya dapat lamang niyang ipakita na siya ay tunay ngang maka-bansa at hindi maka-Gloria. He should also realize that GMA is in trouble right now because of her own undoing and there’s nothing wrong in distancing himself from her unless she confronts and raging issues against her and be truthful about it.

Noli has to remember that he owes GMA nothing in his position right now (the campaign funds in not hers actually, it’s the people’s). This is the right time for Noli to prove that his “Kabayan” title is not just like that, a meaningless title.

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Naz

June 23rd, 2005 at 6:49 am

haay.. bunye.. :(

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apollo

June 23rd, 2005 at 6:51 am

If u have seen the evil midgets face…. while she was visiting cardinal sin’s wake…. you’ld see something not akin to sadness… neither can it be described as being sad-eyed…

I saw “relief” in her face… relief that the cardinal was dead… and won’t be able to call out against her ouster….

tsk.tsk.tsk…. makiramay naman sana ng maayos instead of smirking like the devil ate something….

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apollo

June 23rd, 2005 at 7:03 am

hay…. naku…. selective amnesia na naman…
who the f*ck gave Bunye some Haldol….?

it’s zarzuela time in congress[f*ck]…… investigation/probe to aid in legislation daw[sh*t]…..

are these the people you voted for? [antatanga]….

we don’t need legislation[ukinas nyo amamin idta congress]….

hayyy… i guess it’s back to the streets again to call for her ouster…..

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jonas

June 23rd, 2005 at 7:08 am

Picture this:

Thousands/millions of Filipinos now have already heard the tape converstation between government officials, starring GMA and Comm. Garcillano and private individuals relating to the elections held last year.

The government has warned that listening and actually possessing the CDs/tapes is a crime because it would be in violation of the anti-wiretapping law. However, inspite of this, almost everybody has listened and acquired such CDs/tapes with no one being brought to jail. Some prominent people are even challenging the government to arrest them for going against its warning.

Here comes now the GMA lapdogs in Congress, led by Pichay among others, pontificating that congressmen should not listen and talk about the contents of the the CDs/tapes because they would be violating the anti-wiretapping law and they (adminsitration lapdogs) don’t want to be hurled in jail. He, he, he!!! Ang tindi talaga ng karma! Imagine, our legislators now suddenly becoming angels, este, law abiding citizens by professing to respect the law which nobody seems to care?

In EDSA 2, this people discarded the Constitution because it’s no use for them in their quest for their agenda. They opted to take the extra-constitutional means to achieve their goal. Now that the tables are turn, they are now hiding behind those laws they once ignored and disrespected. Ang Diyos talaga napakahilig sa kape: Hindi natutulog!

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tobebs

June 23rd, 2005 at 7:55 am

KUDOS to administration congressmen Remulla, Golez, Locsin and Martinez you’re on the right side and to Zubiri, Pichay Baterina, Defensor and the rest DAMN YOU

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carmel

June 23rd, 2005 at 8:39 am

I dare any of the TV channels to set aside 3 hours of their programming to air the full tape.

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jammer

June 23rd, 2005 at 8:42 am

try this!

http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index.php?index=1&story_id=41225

pero si bunye di kasali for destabilizing the govt. siya nag expose eh.

i have no idea of the tape until he showed it. since he is a man from a supposedly respectable institution, nakinig ako… at bumaba ng sobra ang pagtingin ko sa institution na kinabibilangan nya.

mas mataas pa tingin ko sa mga nakakulong sa preso.

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jammer

June 23rd, 2005 at 8:45 am

do you all knw the reason why the administration doesn’t want a real investigation for the tapes and the fraud? mauubos ang congressmen and women and senators nila kasi kadamay, kapuso at kapamilya eh. very derogatory to the two TV channels yung tema ng admin.

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lawspeak_007

June 23rd, 2005 at 10:01 am

To Naz, you hit it right when you called me Mister.

I understand your worries as a teenager confronted by legalities surrounding the Gloriagate.

Allow me to presume that your queries on “arrest and putting your love ones in trouble” are akin to seeking an advisory opinion. In legal jargon it means “a response to a legal issue posed in the abstract in advance of any actual case in which it may be presented ’

Thus, It is my opinion that any legal theory that I may posit to you will remain a theory (and later be hotly contested by other legal minds) since there is no actual case yet to speak of.

I still have to hear from any media sources that a minor got arrested and incarcerated on the basis of Gloriagate CDs . And if ever there’s one, Bunye should be the first one to go.

This bring us back to our senses that Totoy/Boy Wangwang’s legal bullying is nothing but a crap and worst part — he enjoys doing it like a thug.

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tobebs

June 23rd, 2005 at 11:27 am

Could anyone please advise me if it is possible to petition to change somebody else’s name to another? Gusto ko kasi papalitan pangalan ni PICHAY to KALABASA.

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pleigh

June 23rd, 2005 at 3:26 pm

bakit KALABASA??AMPALAYA na lang…hehehe

i partially heard the news this morning about the press con of sen lacson…i think its about the launching of be not afraid thing….raising the issue of cheating of 2004 national election….then there goes the puppets of the arroyo government immediately reacting to the forum this morning…if i am not mistaken, his name is gabriel claudio questioning the timing of this forum…he said why now?why not during the election, why after a year or so…now, my question is…why not now??are they afraid to face these accusastions now??what are they afraid of if they have nothing to hide??another program i’ve watched in ANC this morning with mike defensor and another young lawyer as their guest….as mike challenge the detractors to show them where irregularities took place…show some evidences and, yes, the same issue raised by that guy claudio, why now??and this lawyer said that speaking to a comelec commissioner is not illegal…what??!!not illegal??ok then, its IMMORAL!!!they quoted ERAP calling the then chairman monsod…my goodness…as what mr monsod said, he was just asking for the right process of filing his candidacy because he originally filed for precidency and wanted to change it and file for vice-presidency…its the process he is asking, not the status of the election….and the call was done BEFORE the election….even BEFORE the campaign, if i understand it right….so, what’s the comparison for??and if i’m not mistaken, the alleged voice of GMA in the tapes happened during the height of the canvassing….not illegal, maybe, but IMMORAL….can you read this guys??…IMMORAL….mike defensor also said that there are no evidence to prove that their boss cheated…that is because the opposition never had the chance to present them, and in fact, those dogs who chaired the canvassing insist of saying “NOTED”….and finally, all they can tell is let GMA govern this country…questioned if the malacañang will react on this matter…all they tell is that GMA will continue to govern….they are misleading us and not answering the single question asked to them….

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apollo

June 23rd, 2005 at 7:29 pm

guys and gals, we may shout to high heavens and hell…
call it out, say and damn everything and everypoint….

but nothing will happen….

until all of us get up and off our butts and start walking the streets again… until we see each other… and be the torrent and the storm in the streets….

nothing will happen….

‘lam mo ba kung bakit?

The evil midget and her family and their evil cabal at that, doesn’t have any honor at all…. they have never serve you or me and our people… they only serve themselves and their vested interest….

now they have a chokehold on things…[ parang isang grupo ng LINTA na naka-kapit sa kalabaw]…..
do you think they will just let go of power and all its amenities? nah…

if you have ever seen a leach [linta]… the only way you can take it out and off is to put a burning stick on its body until it lets go…..

and that’s the only way we can oust this so called leaches in the government…..[dapat sunugin]….

everything boils down to getting back on the streets and a new revolution to set everything straight…

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apollo

June 23rd, 2005 at 9:12 pm

are we really that stupid?

I can barely contain myself from the anger & disdain i feel from the idiotic fallacies being spun by the government lapdogs now….. see below…

1. Sec Claudio – to qoute says [of the formation of the "be not afraid" movement] – “is this is the right forum to air their grievances, one year after the election? they’re out of time and our of place.

2. Bill Luz & the bussiness community – “stop protesting. its bad for business and is doing the economy harm.

3. Pichay & the tongressmen – “gma didn’t really commit a sin and doesn’t need to be punished like erap”

4. gma’s amuyongs – “no one can replace gma. imagine a noli de castro presidency. boooo!”

5. Spin doctor dept. – “don’t believe bishop cruz. he’s gay. he’s a womanizer. he’s a jueteng beneficiary.

6. justicesec gonzales – a.)”stop talking about the tapes. or you will be prosecuted” b.) We cannot file a case against ong. we dont know where he is. c.) why file against ong if you can’t file against pimentel and gen.abat?

and there will be more, no doubt about it….let’s try to answer each one in turn….

1. what do u mean about being out of time and place? we have already endured a year of her evil presence… the justice we are seeking now? a redress for the evil she did of stealing our right of suffrage doesn’t need any specific time or place… how stupid can you get?

2. [omgulay]… mr. luz and joecon will have to step up after all of this is over… bad for the economy? gma is bad for the economy.. investors will get scared of investing? they are already scared – doing business in a corrupt government like ours is just way crazy…hurts the economy? ulol.. we are already hurting….I remember that time you called up against erap [i liked you then]… what makes things different that you can’t call against gma [you lost the respect i have for you - assh*le]… its the same thing – you always have to call your shots against evil… engot

3. to steal people’s right of suffrage is not evil? [dapat dalhin kayo sa mental mr.pichay et al]. even comparing it to erap…tsk.tsk.tsk….
erap stole money… gma is stealing money and has stolen our rights of suffrage…
[no contest...- dapat double life imprisonment or death penalty]

4. mga gago… i think noli’s capable to replace your amo…. that is if he really had won it – since we are still waiting for ms.legarda’s case to be settled….

5. ‘ay naku! puwede ba? hintuan na ninyo yan…. it’s not bishop cruz that’s your problem… it’s the WITNESSES…. antatanga talaga…..

6. mr.justicesec… you are losing your common sense…. lol…. any one can file a criminal complaint against person/s even if they don’t know the whereabouts of the accused… [tanong mo sa mga 1st year ng law]…

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apollo

June 23rd, 2005 at 9:20 pm

naputol… eh tuloy natin…

#6… selective application of the law? justice sec ano ba yan….. if you can file a case of “inciting to sedition” against Ong, you have to file one against Pimentel and Gen.Abat… or else you are definitely committing “dereliction of duty” cause you are violating the law[makukulong ka niyan]….lol

What else can we expect from this people?
When will we be sufficiently roused to take actions?

hmmmm…. tawa muna tayo sa katangahan nila…

there’s a time and a season for everything under the sun……

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swerty

June 23rd, 2005 at 9:52 pm

Napakasinugaling talaga ni Bunye. Huling huli sa kanyang mga bibig lahat ng kasinugalingan tapos nangdadamay pa! Kung ako si GMA, nung presscon pa lang, pinatalsik ko na itong mokong ito! if he still will be the presidential spokesman ni GMA sa darating na buwan, katawatawa na talaga ang administrayon, para bagang nagpapalabas sila ng pelikula pero may halong comdey.

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Naz

June 23rd, 2005 at 11:15 pm

Thanks once again for your advice Mr. lawspeak! Greatly appreciated! ^_^ But once again, i stand on my beliefs, i aint turning back. Unless Ms Gloria Arroyo becomes Darth Vader then maybe.. hehe.. Thanks again!

Godbless and takecare! :)

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jammer

June 23rd, 2005 at 11:37 pm

try CDR king, 3-6 pesos per cd… burning… dali lang. i-ty na kayo ng mga computer shops jan.

download for free.

pwede rin isegment to be sent via email.

or… recommend this site. thats what i did. tutal andito na ito, public domain so its free.

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magbobote

June 24th, 2005 at 2:51 am

Download the 3 hour tape and paguia tape

http://www.defensive-thinking.com

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apollo

June 24th, 2005 at 6:13 am

WARNING!!!!

THE POLICE FORCE HAS BEGUN TO ACTIVELY “INVITE” PEOPLE WHO ARE DISTRIBUTING THE GLORIAGATE CD’S…. THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN CHARGED WITH “INCITING TO SEDITION”….

WE HAVE AN “UNDECLARED – MARTIAL LAW” IN EFFECT…..

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tobebs

June 24th, 2005 at 7:48 am

Once again GMAs defense boys came to the rescue e.g. sec Claudio and Defensor. Have you noticed Defensors lips parang namamaga na sa kakadepensa sa kanyang amo

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tobebs

June 24th, 2005 at 7:54 am

If some of my comments are considered spam I would like to apologize for that I just could not help to express my frustrations over those people who dont want us to find the truth.

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jammer

June 24th, 2005 at 8:27 am

investigate fvr…. in every account.

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manggagawa

June 24th, 2005 at 9:30 am

ang hirap sa mga nasa malacanang lalo na si bunye at si wycoco at yung mga nagdidinig sa kaso sa kongreso, minsan nakakalimutan ang basics. simple lang kung paano malaman kung madali bang ma identify and nasa sinasabing tape. patugtog ka ng isang tape ng kanta na paborito ni bunye at kanta na paborito ni wycoco. tanungin mo sino ang kumanta, ewan ko na lang kung di pa nila malaman.
tapos tanungin mo kung lagi ba nilang naririnig ang boses ni GMA sa rayo, telepono, sa harap nila, sa tv, etc… siyempre ang sagot OO. eh tanungin mo bakit makakalimutan o malilito sila eh ang kanta nga na bihira nila marinig ay nakikilala nila ang kumanta. patugtog mo ng tape ay ang recorded din sa sinasabing original na nabibili sa mga tindahan ng tapes(reproduce din tulad ng sinasabing a copy of the copy of the copy of the tape na sabi ni KA TOTING). wag muna sabihin na yung ay a copy of a copy of a copy. kapag na identify na nila ang kumanta.
sa pamamagitan ng simpleng pamamamaraan ay malalaman na talaga si BUNYE at WYCOCO at ang mga kakampi nilang kongresista ay hinaharang ang katotohanan. sabi nga ng mga kabataan.. simple MUSIC cannot follow…
kung di pa okey, eh di sila na ang mag resign kasi baka may mga lider tayo na may mga amnesia, mas lalong maghihirap ang bansa natin. kawawa lalo ang mga mahihirap. isa pa eh baka kasi makalimutan din nila pati ang pambansang awit at pangalan ng ating bansa.

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tobebs

June 24th, 2005 at 10:11 am

If we can’t be out on the streets, why can’t we just start a nationwide signature campaign to pressure Bunye, Wycoco and the principal liar GMA to tell the TRUTH.

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jammer

June 24th, 2005 at 10:24 am

i agree manggagawa…

its not science, not technology but simple music….

an art that will surely verify they are covering something up……

then again.. thats their favorite music (cover up) so it wont matter much.

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jammer

June 24th, 2005 at 12:05 pm

try this!

http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index.php?index=1&story_id=41317

sinungaling na davide…. unconstittional ang pagkakaalis kay erap… remember?

p**ang inang davide. sa pakinabang din… as usual…

ayan. may proof na tayo.

Chief Justice rejects ‘extrajudicial form of gov’t’

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long71

June 24th, 2005 at 1:12 pm

Chief Justice rejects ‘extrajudicial form of gov’t’

—BWAHAHAHA PAG SILA GUMAGAWA NG MGA BAGAY NA HINDI AYON SA KONSTITUSYON, LEGAL! BWAHAHAHAHA MGA IPOKRITO…KAPAL NG NG MGA MUKHA NG MGA TAONG YAN–GOD FEARING PA KUNYARI–ONE WAY TO TELL IF A PERSON IS UP TO NO GOOD–HE ALWAYS MENTION THE NAME OF GOD! BWAHAHAHAHA

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pleigh

June 24th, 2005 at 3:26 pm

it is very common for lost souls to sacrifice and use the name of our Lord just to cover their hidden agendas….LAOS NA PO ANG GANYANG TUGTUGIN…just imagine if i remember it right, and correct me if im wrong, during the funeral of the late pope john paul II, he even mentioned that the pope advised her to stand against the administration then(ERAP’s admin)…wow…much for God-fearing…the whole world mourns and you even used the holy father’s name for your political papogi??how embarassing…why can’t she seek the advise of the Present pontiff…im pretty sure pope benedict will advise her to speak the truth and face the allegations….and not those lapdogs doing your job…pweh!!!

let me quote these words from apollo:
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6. mr.justicesec… you are losing your common sense…. lol…. any one can file a criminal complaint against person/s even if they don’t know the whereabouts of the accused… [tanong mo sa mga 1st year ng law]…
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kahit siguro fresh grad from high school pwede sagutin yan…hahaha!!!mr secretary, ginagawa mo lang katawa tawa sarili mo….di kami tanga, kyo sa gobyerno ang nagtatanga tangahan…

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Atty. Kazmot

June 24th, 2005 at 4:06 pm

Sana itong sina Pichay, Baterina, Zubiri, ay ibalik sa paaralan ng batas. Saan ba sila nagaral at nakakahiya sila. Mga gumagawa daw sila ng batas pero di naman nila maintidihan ang batas. Paano ka makakagawa ng batas kung simpleng mga pangungusap ng ating batas ay di nila maunawaan. Paki-imbestigahan naman kung saan silang paaralan nagmula at di ko pagaaralin ang anak ko dahil nakakatakot na magaya sa kanila!

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tobebs

June 24th, 2005 at 6:20 pm

BUNYE’s favorite song:

I have 2 discs, the left and the right
One is orig and one is fake
Hear them slowly 1 2 3
All you can hear is
HELLO GARCI

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apollo

June 25th, 2005 at 8:59 am

hala….

the evil midget is having hallucinations…..

oh, she’s not moved daw by the demonstrations….. [gago ano? paano niyang mararamdaman eh tigas ang pag-deny nila sa mga humihingi ng rally permit.... ni hindi nga makaabot sa plaza miranda ang demonstrators eh.... kapal ano?]

tigas -diin sa sinasabing me mandate daw siya to rule……. [matindi na ito kapatid.... hindi lang hallucination... me sarili ng mundo eh...]

tapos we helped her daw last election….. ['di ba she helped herself... kasama ni garci..... wala na sa realidad...tsk.tsk.tsk]…

kapatid… pag nilapitan ka ni gloria… buhusan mo ng tubig…. takot ang mga me rabies sa tubig eh….lol

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tobebs

June 25th, 2005 at 9:16 am

Gloria Macapagal Arroyo will never wake-up to the TRUTH that is confronting her now. Mahirap gisingin ang taong gising.

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apollo

June 25th, 2005 at 9:27 am

It’s all Bunye’s fault…. [tingnan natin, ano?]

he was the first one who have waved upon our sleeping consciousness the existence of this so called wire-tapped conversations….[if he just kept his mouth shut.. we wouldn't even know about it]

he was the one who said it was GMA who is in the alleged tapes….
[just to pre-empt the oppositions move he declared it was so... and by declaring it was GMA he has given the tapes a measure of authenticity and credibility... again he should have kept his mouth shut]

he was the one who said he was just 98% sure GMA was the one in the tapes… [he still should have kept his mouth shut... alam mo pag sinabi ng isang tao na 98% eh tatamaan ka ng bala sa ulo at sinabi niyang sa gitna ka ng mga mata niya patatamaan eh patay ka pa rin]

he’s no longer sure of anything about the tapes….[he should really keep his mouth shut... i-staple na please... too much damage na eh... kung baga sa pusoy.... ni wala ka man lang mabuo... ampaw na eh...]

kelan kaya siya patatalsikin ni manang glow? lol

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tobebs

June 25th, 2005 at 9:37 am

YES it’s all Bunye’s fault. According to him the president will not dignify an illegal activity (the tapes) and yet he willingly played it on the president’s backyard.

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dsaint

June 25th, 2005 at 11:20 pm

Suspetsa ko lang kung bakit nagkaganon si GMA, Bunye at mga kasama sa Malakanyang… Palagay koy nataranta sila ng malaman at marinig ang mga tapes. Kaya di na nakapagplano ng maayos kung paano iaayos ang pag-aanounce sa media.

Sabi nga tuso man daw ang mga matsing ay natataranta pa rin.

Pls. lang bumaba na kayo dyan sa Malakanyang… Para makabangon na ang PILIPINAS!!!

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jjc1384

June 26th, 2005 at 1:42 am





I hope all of us can now move on, but how can we when we are stucked in this moment where our leader refuses to answer the “question” (singular and not plural) of the people. When the president is doing no actions but to criticize her opponents….tama ba yun? presidente wala nang ginawa kung hindi ang mag name ng names sa mga kalaban! Pwes Pandak siya, mandaraya at sinungaling!
Bakit walang nag-rarally ngaon? E konting mali mo lang pakulong ka ka-agad dahil inciting to sedition ka daw… bakit ganito ang actions ni GMA e nung time naman ni ERAP maximum tolereance ang pina-pa-iral e ngayon “No permit no rally na”. E malamang kapag against Arroyo ang purpose ng rally, di ka bibigyan ng permit…kelangan pang kumuha ng permit para labanan ang administrasyon… GRABE TALAGA! SOBRA NA! DI PA BA TAYO KIKILOS! Sobra na ang mga ginagawa ni Arroyo! P.I. talaga! Sobra na Tama na! GMA mahiya ka na!

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jammer

June 26th, 2005 at 2:12 am

tuso man ang matsing… pag natinik, malalim. ha ha ha

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tobebs

June 26th, 2005 at 9:42 am

The LOW is very clear

Anybody in POSITION of the Gloria Tapes can PASSIVELY be charged of INSIGHTING to CD-TION

Dept. of JUSTEASE. Haaaay maloloko na ako.

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jay cynikho

June 26th, 2005 at 10:45 am

I don’t know about our lawyers, especially the members of the integrated bar and the Philconsa. Why can’t any of them file a case against Sammy Ong, Atty Paguia and even Doble of violating the wiretapping law, just include the sec Raul Gonzales and Mr. wycoco as complainants and let the courts ask these wise guys or nincompops to explain their charges.

Let a lawyer operationalize the threat, end those blah blah about no grounds for a case.

Another one. Why can’t the true commisioned officers charge in a court martial their commander-in-chief for treason or light case of conduct unbecoming of a commander in chief. Who’s kidding who?

Is there a law where Gloria and Garci can be charged of impersonating the President of the Philippines and a COMELEC Commissioner, respectively?

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apollo

June 26th, 2005 at 12:49 pm

utang na loob…please….
kinukumpara na ang sarili niya ke “NINOY”….

omgulay….. sobra na ang pagkahibang… tarakan na niyo ng anti-rabies ………. please baka mangagat na…. at magkaroon ng epidemya…

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tobebs

June 26th, 2005 at 12:56 pm

Ang TARAAAAY talaga. Kinumpara pa ang sarili kay NINOY. Bakit nakulong na ba sya kahit minsan? O doon na sya patutungo?

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apollo

June 26th, 2005 at 1:15 pm

kapatid na jay…

as yet the case of the tapes are really not that admissible to be use in court para sa anti-wiretapping violations na iyung tinuran…..alam mo ba kung bakit? because of the following….

1.) wala pa pong uma-amin na sila ang nasa tape, hence wala pang aggrieved parties concerned [kahit na alam na natin kung sinong mga herodes at may amats ang mga taong naitaped dito]…

2.) dahil wala pang uma-amin… it cannot be said na the said tapes were illegaly gathered/intercepted dahil wala namang nagrereklamo… hence hindi pa puwedeng i-under sa AWT law…

3.) aminado naman sila Ong, Paguia et al na wiretapped eh pero dahil wala ngang uma-amin hindi pa rin puwede…..

doon naman sa sinasabi mong court-martial… ang alam ko hindi rin puwede… ang commander-in-chief kasi eh considered na civilian [dahil within our democracy the civilian rule being exerted over the military is done thru the office of the president-elect] so hindi talaga… kung i-try siya under court martial masasabing the military rules were used for a civilian component…. at hindi iyun pupuwede…. not unless magkaroon ng civil-military junta then perhaps they can do that…

ang tanong ‘ata sa militar eh ” does they still consider her the c-in-c?” dahil wala na ngang mandate eh

natawa ko sa last mong tanong… *impersonating the president of the philippines and a comelec commissioner…….. iyung impersonating the president siguro puwede dahil sabi nga natin eh talaga namang walang mandate…. iyung sa comelec commissioner hindi puede… dahil talagang nakapuesto ang animal eh…..

oh… wokey na tayo ha… :p

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jjc1384

June 26th, 2005 at 3:04 pm

Naloloka na Lola nating lahat…i-compara ba naman ang sarili kay Ninoy! Wow naman, di na nahiya….tsk tsk tsk…lie after a lie after a lie….epidemya na ng fake admisnistration na ito ang pagsisinungaling…. sobra na talaga…. GMA REsign!

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tobebs

June 26th, 2005 at 3:31 pm

In Dong Puno’s TV Program Viewpoint, Cong. Pichay once again invokes the legalities as to why the Tapes could not be authenticated. Di naman yun ang gusto malaman ng taong Bayan. It’s the simple question kung si GMA yung nasa Tapes. No matter how Pichay explains that to the poor masa hindi sa maiintindihan dahil karamihan sa apelyido ng ating mga kababayan ay hindi naman DEFENSOR, GONZALES, BUNYE, WYCOCO, CLAUDIO at lalong-lalo na PICHAY.

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timangismyname

June 26th, 2005 at 4:11 pm

hay naku salamat na lang at na-discover ko itong “inside pcij” webiste at may pagkakataon na akong magbulalas ng galit at dismaya sa gobyerno lalung lalo na kay GMA na kapal moks talaga at ikinumpara pa ang sarili kay ninoy. wala na sa sarili ang taong yan. pati nga sarili niya nililoko niya eh imagine parehas daw sila ni ninoy na biktima ng character asSassiination? Diyos ko naman…aba’y malala na talaga. ewan ko ba…SUCH A PATHETIC WAY TO HOLD ON TO POWER…

as for bunye, naku po isa pa ‘to. palagay nyo ba gagawin yun ni bunye kung walang instruction or authorization ni pandak? sino bang mas mataas ang posisyon sa kanilang dalawa? eh siguro parehong nag-blackmail sila sa isa’t isa–si bunye kaya nandon pa rin sa malacanang tiyak yun nagbanta kay gma na kung tatanggalin siya sa pwesto, talagang babaligtad siya at ibubuking niya si pandak. eto namang si pandak nanakot rin kay bunye na uubusin ang buong pamilya kung hindi niya babawiin yung sinabi niya na boses nga ng boseng niya yung sa tape. halatang obvious di ba (hehehehehe). ganyan ang situation–kanya-kanyang bantaan at sariling pakinabang ang iniisip nila (kung may isip at konsensiya pa sila) hay naku ulit…

bilang na ang masasayang araw niyang si pandak. there’s really no way out for her. kahit umamin siya at humingi ng tawad sa sambayanang pinoy sira na siya.

i have more to say but this space is not enough. sisilip-silip na lang ako from time to time para maki-jamming sa inyo. this site is really cool…i work abroad kaya it’s very frustrating on my part na makapag-participate sa discussions in other forums. may time nga na sa galit ko gusto kong mag-resign at umuwi sa pinas at makipag-rally. kung para sa bayan ko, why not? we are dealing with truth and moral values here. i cannot allow any person to rob me of my sacred vote nilustay na nga niya ang pera ng gobyerno, pati ba naman mga boto natin ninakaw pa nya? that’s how desperate she is to cling ON to power. sinasamba niya ang KAPANGYARIHAN dulot ng sakim na ambisyon at HINDI ANG KAPANGYARIHAN NG DIYOS…

for your info lang, last year umuwi ako sa pinas for my annual vacation. eh dahil sa ofw ako at may yearly contributions kami sa OWWA eh sinibukan kong mag-loan against our contirubtions. gues what? walang pondo ang OWWA kaya hindi ako nakapag-loan kasama ng ibang ofws doon na kasabay ko. we were livid with anger kasi nasaan yung millions of pesos na nakukuha ng gobyerno galing sa aming mga OFWs? ang nakatawa nito, millions nga ang pumapasok sa OWWA and POEA di, ba? guess ulit kung anong maximum na malo-loan namin? 5000 pesos at yun eh kung maka-comply ka sa requirements nila to submit about 20 documents bago ma-process at maibigay yung 5000 pesos. ganun sa OWWA na halatnag obvious eh ginamit yung pera sa campaign ni pandak isama na ninyo yung MEDICARE contributions namin na ipinasa sa PHILHEALTH na kung matatandaan nyo eh during the campaign si pandak was all over–sa TV , radyo sa naglalakihang billboards na very pronounced yung LITRATO niya na inilagay sa PHILHEALTH ID. kaya ngayon wala nang medicare kami, PHILHEALTH na raw ang tawag don. very clever, di ba? anyway, mag-bu-BOOMERANG lahat yan sa kanya.

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kulitus

June 26th, 2005 at 4:11 pm

to pcij

with all due respects to the late cardinal sin, in an interview with bishop soc villegas by tv patrol, villegas mentioned on sin’s deathbed he (sin) sent a letter to san carlos seminary. that was also the time doble was “rescued” by the police/military and after which ong was “kicked-out” of the seminary. wonder what that letter contained.

i don’t know if i mis-interpreted what villegas said. my apologies if i did.

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necrosphinx

June 26th, 2005 at 5:08 pm

Inihalintulad ni Gloria ang sarili niya kay Ninoy Aquino sapagkat pareho na silang nakapangalumbaba ngayon.

Bakit ganon?
Si Gloria ayaw KUMIBO
Si Garci NAGTATAGO

Papayag na daw si Mosquieda na paimbestigahan ang kanyang Bank Account kahit hindi na siya Gov’t Employee.
Basta bigyan daw siya ng isang araw para mag withdraw.

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swerty

June 26th, 2005 at 7:12 pm

Narinig niyo na ba na nasampahan ng tax evasion si ginoong Iggy Arroyo? Tapos sa media sinabi niya na totoong walang kinikilingan ang sangay ng gobyerno kasi kahit siya hinuhuli rin? Hello?? Government official siya tapos hindi siya nagbabayad ng tamang buwis! buwisit talaga! Kitang kita na nangungurakot lang itong BAYAWak na ito! Tapos niyang akuin lahat ng Jose Pidal accounts at may total assets mahigit 400milyon, ang liit lang ng binabayad niya. Hindi ba nakaka-insulto sa mamamayan iyon? Hirap na hirap ang taong bayan para kumita ng pera pero may katungkulan ito para magbayad ng tamang buwis tapos si Iggy, mayaman na hindi pa nagbabayad ng tamang buwis, obvious na obvious na ginamagit lang niya ang kanyang position sa government para hindi huliin at mangurakot pa ng malaking pera.

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swerty

June 26th, 2005 at 7:24 pm

Tungkol naman ito sa sinabi ni GMA na tulad din siya ni Ninoy. Pag pinapatay na siya ni R. maari na nating sabihin na tulad nga siya ni Ninoy. Pero ngayong buhay pa siya, tulad lang siya ni Marcos. Ala martial law ang panunungkulan tapos sipsip pa ang mga matataas na opisyal sa kanya.

Una, sinasabi niya na si Lord ang naglagay sa kanya sa pwesto. next, tulad naman siya ni NInoy. ano kaya naman ang statement niya? wala nang lumalabas sa bibig niya kung hindi kasinungalinan, tama lang na magsama sila ni Bunye!

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jammer

June 26th, 2005 at 8:32 pm

forget the taxes… wala na namang mararating yan kahit lagyan pa ng 1000000% na VAT.

sa dami ng utang ni gmangayon sa AFP dahil hindi umaklas… mauubos muli dahil sa bayaran. mas malaki na sweldo nila ngayn.

PUSTAHAN TAYO WALANG MANGYAYARI SA BAYAN!!!

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jammer

June 26th, 2005 at 8:35 pm

SICK of us—>

gma did sumthing??? yah… protect fvr and her ass and her relatives…

we now have over 55B USD in debts… dapat lang may magawa siya ano… si erap hindi nangutang tulad nya.

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jammer

June 26th, 2005 at 9:13 pm

meron pala… lalaki lang ang utang.. soon, si quezon na ang pamasahe sa jeep at the rate tumataas ang fare..

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jay cynikho

June 26th, 2005 at 10:00 pm

kapatid na apollo

salamat sa comment, dapat idemanda na sina
sammy ong at atty paguia at isama sa
nagdedemanda si Sec Gonzales at si Wycoco
na ayaw pang kumilos, nanakot lang sa
tao, pag may demanda at may dismissal
kunti na ang matatakot at maloloko tao nila.
ONCE AND FOR ALL, IF THEY THREATENED
PEOPLE WITHOUT BASIS, SOMEBODY SHOULD
DO IT FOR THEM TO PROVE THEIR BEING
BULLY, OR NANDUDURO LANG. DISMISS
AGAD NG KORTE YAN DI BA?

yung tatlong sinabi ko, pinoprovoke ko lang
ang isip ng nagbabasa. kASI MAHILIG AT
MAGALING SILANG MAG IMBENTO NG PANLOKO
SA TAO. ewan ko baka yan ang Gobbelian
tactics, locally know as Bunye’s Bola.

Halimbawa yung court martial ng military
na conduct unbecoming an officer daming
sakop yan pati pagnanakaw at treason, conduct
unbecoming kono. di ba nakakatawa, yung distinction
between civilian and military, di ba nakakatawa,
yung supremacy of civilian authority over the
military, yan yata ang pinakamalkaing tae
ng toro dito sa Pilipinas.

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winniejoy

June 27th, 2005 at 12:39 am

Maawa naman kayo kay Gloria and company. Patawarin nyo na ang cheater midget woman president natin. To err is human… to forgive is divine. Kaya lang mukhang tao lang naman yang si gloria eh. She’s not human… kaya di applicable ang saying na yan.

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apollo

June 27th, 2005 at 9:58 am

The evil midget has seen a new light in the tunnel and has actively called upon it…

she is now baiting everyone to try and impeach her constitutionally…..

[tigas amats talaga]….. although this is the best thing to do – to oust her thru constitutional means.. it is an illusion….

we must remember that we have here in the legislative body a total control and domination by the ruling party of both the lower congress and the upper senate chamber….the said party is ably led by the midget… hence, any action taken to commit a constitutional ouster would be for naught because her allies will immediately block any such moves…

let us not forget that everytime there was a question about the coc’s, sov’s and er’s last election… the answer given by the evil midget’s henchmen were the word “NOTED”….. could you just imagine the opposition trying to start this procedures or resolution and being soundly called out by “NOTED”?….

Even if we go thru all this constitutional wrangling [for the midgets' ouster ] – will we be able to see that it will be satisfactorily resolved? or will it be a stalemate?

whatever happens – we are in a constitutional quandary…

the legislative body won’t help us unlike the time we called for eraps’ ouster….
the judicial body is under the midget’s control…
the military and the burgis civil society will try and keep the status qou….

guess who are left? the masa again…. to fend for themselves… to bite the bitter taste of having their right of suffrage torn from them by a midget who is a liar, a cheat and a thief….

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swerty

June 27th, 2005 at 11:19 am

just like what happened in EDSA III? It seems that GMA become more and more bold and tougher than before as she get away all these allegations. If she ever get away this gloriagate scandal then patay kang bata ka. She can get away from everything, just like an invincible.

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Atty C

June 27th, 2005 at 11:54 am

The TYANAK IN MALACANANG is going down. Whether it is constitutional or not, I do not care. I did not vote for FPJ or GMA but let us not tolerate a Thief, Kapalmuks and a Cheat to have her cake and eat it too.

Anyway, a snap election is an option. GMA, Noli and all the Comelec Commissioners, as well as her appointees in the Supreme Court, should also step down. A transitional government shall be created until a new president and vice president shall have been elected.

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jonas

June 27th, 2005 at 12:07 pm

Bawat segundong tinatagal ni Gloria sa Malacanang ay nagsisilbing isang tadjak sa isang araw sa pagmumukha ng bawat Pilipino.

This early, I would say that she knows that her comment (if there’d be one) will determine how she will go. If she finally speak and admit that she was indeed the voice in the tape, that’s it. She knows what to do next. Resign. On the other hand, if she will continue to stonewall she was hoping that, again, she can get away with impunity.

Hindi ko siya masisisi dahil nuong kasagsagan ng Jose Pidal issue ay nakuha niyang manahimik at voila, na-solve ni Iggy ang problema! Siguro this time tumityempo na naman si Gloria sa pag-aakalang gano’n na lang kabobo ang mga Pilipino. Sad.

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masha

June 27th, 2005 at 12:17 pm

be ready for what she’ll announce. let’s hope that she’ll stick to the truth. although i doubt it. it’s highly likely that her statement would involve an attempt to cement her stance that she won the elections fair and square. let’s not accept that.

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tobebs

June 27th, 2005 at 2:46 pm

Civil society to convene to form a Truth Commission to authenticate if it was the presidents voice on the tapes with or without governments backing. Lets not limit it only to GMA and GARCI let’s include those other personalities mentioned on the tapes (Barbers, Lomibao etc) to get to the bottom of this widespread conspiracy of cheating in the 2004 elections.

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dsaint

June 27th, 2005 at 2:57 pm

Sa Mga Kababayan Kong Pilipino,

BIGYAN NA NATIN NG TANING NGAYONG ARAW NA ITO SI GMA PARA SABIHIN ANG KATOTOHANAN O KASINUNGALINGAN. Marami na ang di makatagal sa nangyayaring ito sa ating bansa.

Kapag inamin niya na boses niya ang nasa tapes at totoo ang lahat ng kanyang pinagsasabi tungkol sa eleksyon, then dapat na siya ay humingi ng kapatawaran sa sambayanang Pilipinas. At harapin niya ang nararapat na kaparusahan para sa kanyang ginawa at mag-RESIGN na siya.

Kapag di siya umamin na boses niya ang nasa tapes ay dapat na nating GAWIN ANG NARARAPAT….

THE ONLY THING NECESSARY FOR GOOD TO TRIUMPH
IS THAT GOOD MEN AND WOMEN DO WHAT IS NECESSARY.

SAMA NA SA PAGBABAGO!!!!

BANGON, PILIPINAS, BANGON!!!

http://www.bangonpilipinas.org

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swerty

June 27th, 2005 at 3:57 pm

she will just say farewell and gracefully resign as the president of the philippines, I wish.

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tobebs

June 27th, 2005 at 7:48 pm

The president’s admission and superb acting will be a grand slam BEST ACTRESS record for all the award giving bodies in the Film Industry. Tatalunin nya ang kanyang look-a-like na si Ate Guy at ka boses na si Ate Glow.

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juanbagwis

June 27th, 2005 at 8:28 pm

GMA should resign now after admitting she was the voice on the tape….and Franklin Drilon should go with her

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swerty

June 27th, 2005 at 8:48 pm

Since she already confirmed and admitted the authencity of the tape. The next step should be the search for any signs or evidences that leads to the cheating of her presidency. She should be punished. Humingi siya ng patawad dahil sa lapse judgement, obvious na planado lahat ng moves niya. Gusto niya pa rin lumusot sa issue ng vote cheating. Ano say ninyo?

At sino ba ang makakapagsabi na pinatawaran na siya ng bayan eh kung libo-libo mga pulis ang nakagwardiya sa mga ralelista? Untouchable and invincible type of a leader, matakot na kayo.

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necrosphinx

June 27th, 2005 at 9:22 pm

Nakakatakot nga si Gloria very untouchable siya dahil ginagamit nya ang kanyang kapangyarihan sampu ng kanyang mga nanakaw sa bayan lalo na ngayong may bagong pera an bayan dahil walang hiyang bagong VAT na yan….. lahat gagamitin nya…. para wag siya mapatanggal sa pwesto lahat ng opisyales ng gobyerno lalung lalo na ang mga nasa pulisya at sandatahang lakas ay babayaran at gagamitin nya para sa kanyang pansariling kapakinabangan. Magkaisa sana ang sambayanang Pilipino very obvious na niloloko tau ng taong ito…

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necrosphinx

June 27th, 2005 at 9:24 pm

Inamin na ni Gloria na siya ang nasa Audio CD sabi nya hindi daw siya nandaya, pakinggan nyong maigi yung usapan nila ni GARCI bumubulong siya doon “e yung ano.. dagdag, dagdag” pabulong at mejo blured and pagkakasabi nya pero understandable kung pakikinggan ng maigi. SINONG NILOLOKO NYA LELONG NYANG PANOT? YAN BA ANG HINDI NANDAYA? bwisit…..

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timangismyname

June 27th, 2005 at 9:37 pm

siguro naman marami ang nakapanood at nakarinig sa salita ni pandak sa national television. bilib na sana ako eh kaya lang ganito:
1. hindi niya tahasang inamin na boses niya yung sa tape
2. hindi niya tahasang sinabi na si garcilliano yung kausap niya, sabi lang niya “comelec official”
3. na “lapse of judgment” lang daw yun at inamin niyang mali

mga kabayan, i-analyze nyong mabuti yung statements niya. walang specific na pag-amin ang ginawa niya. bitin pa rin. it wasn’t a full disclosure. ang nangyari kasi inunahan na niyang magsalita dahil may mga kumikilos na para mag-create ng “truth commission” na pamumunuan ni cory aquino, which was spearheaded by de villa na kung iisip natin eh eto ang mga taong namuno sa edsa 2. kaya bago pa siya lalong malulong at mabaon in really “deep shit” ayun over the weekend nag-decide na siya.

sabi niya “lapse in judgment” daw. mga kabayan okay sana kung minsan lang niyang tinawagan si garci eh hindi eh. maraming beses. kung lapse in judgment yon di sana one time lang at hindi na paulit-ulit na tumawag siya. ibig sabihin talagang may intention at alam niya na kahit improper yun ginawa at ginawa pa rin niya dahil worried siya na baka yung pag-manipulate o pag-rig o pagdaya eh hindi maayos ang pagkakagawa ni garcilliano. yun lang yun eh.

bilib na sana ako kahit konti kung pagkatapos niya magsalita eh tinapos niya ng mga katagang effective today “I RESIGN”.

isama niya si drilon na isa pa rin palang ewan ko. he should have excercised a little bit of prudence kanina ng i-interview siya sa tv patrol live. nag pre-judged siya na hindi raw impeachable yung ginawa ni pandak. dapat lang talaga silang magsama-sama.

pero mga kabayan huwag nating palalagpasin ang ginawa ni gma. hindi ibig sabihin na nag-sorry siya eh ok na yun. sabi ni drilon tapos na raw yung chapter na yon sa pag-amin ni pandak and we must move on. ano, gagawa ng kasalanan porke presidente siya KUNO okay na yon sa atin? may karampatang parusa yung ginawa niya. hindi dapat siyang palusutin

KILOS MGA KABAYAN. DI DAPAT ITO TULDUKAN NA. DAPAT UNGKATIN PA LALO.

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swerty

June 27th, 2005 at 9:42 pm

Malamang narinig din ito ni Mike Defensor. Lagi niya kasing sinasabi na “ayon sa transcript na nabasa ko sa PCIJ….”. Binase niya ang transcript kasi hindi obvious ang tunog ng pananalita ni GMA para mandaya.

Ngayon, kung si GMA ay hindi talagang nandaya, dapat i-authorize niya na iparinig sa congreso at media ang nilalaman ng audio tape.

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tobebs

June 28th, 2005 at 8:18 am

With the presidents admission I was wrong when I said GMA will never wake-up to the TRUTH that confronts her now. Sana magising na rin sina Bunye, Defensor, Pichay, Zubiri, Claudio, Wycoco atbp. sa Katotohanan at humingi ng paumanhin sa sambayanan sa kanilang mga kasinungalingan at higit sa lahat ay MAGBALOT-BALOT na at humandang maging ordinaryong mamamayayan na lang.

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tobebs

June 28th, 2005 at 8:59 am

Sa dami ng Judgement lapses ng pangulo, una kinausap nya si Garci, pangalawa di sya nag-salita agad at kagabi ang ikatlong judgement lapse nya ay ang hindi pagbanggit na si Garci ang kausap nya. Mga kababayan KWIDAW, baka bukas magising na lang tayo na ang Pilipinas ay nabenta na ni Gloria sa mga Intsik dahil lang sa kanyang mga JUDGEMENT LAPSES.

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emer

July 1st, 2005 at 12:26 am

nagpapasalamat ako at may taong katulad ni atty. paguia na hindi natakot ilabas ang katotohanan. kung hinde dahil sa kanila ni atty samuel ong siguro hinde pa rin natin mapatutunayan ang huling dayaan na nangyari last presidential election..sana dumami pa ang lahi nila..

atty paguia,
sana wag po kayong bumitiw at palagi po naming ipagdarasal ang kaligtasan nyo ni atty samuel ong

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